Michael Jackson

[Millennial Pink]

It is I'm glad it isn't just me. I thought I would be roasted for victim blaming but it's entirely the parents fault putting their kid in that position

I remember in the first documentary when at least one of them said that they had no relationship with their parent(s) any more, I just thought, 'yeah, that tracks'. The very idea of letting your kid have 'sleepovers' with an adult stranger, what the fuck. Did all the holidays and gifts make them lose all common sense?!

 

[Piff paff puff]

MJ pinched sooo many of those moves, and the addition of the little prince just sitting watching is eerie as feck.

This is giving me nightmares. I'm surprised this actor didn't sue MJ for stealing his act. Also MJ called one of his kids Prince and dyed one of their hair blond. Those kids of his got lucky. Came from a lab and set up for life.

 

[shellie]

She was 11 she will remember him well. His only daughter isn't supporting this and one of her brothers didn't turn up either. It's very telling because they used to go to anything.

Paris has made it clear she thinks it's nothing more than a cash grab from people who were already wasting his money who don't care if some if not a lot of it is fiction.

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...iticises-sugar-coated-biopic-about-her-father

Pop Bitch is also talking about him today with some known stories that used to go around about him.

 

[Web30]

I watched it, it added nothing new at all. Just felt like a reminder that this thing potentially happened. I still cannot bring myself to believe either of them. They’ve lied waaaay too much and changed stories too many times. I don’t think MJ was innocent but Wade especially is dodgy AF.

I get the fact why it’s thrown out, MJ Productions is not and never was Michael is was his business to run his music and tours therefore nothing to do with the situation so suing that for the hundreds of millions they’re asking for is kinda pointless - esp as MJ was broke so where is that money coming from???? It’s like suing the whole company because of a CEO, when it should be the CEO. Of whom is dead and cannot defend.

what has never added up to me, is how the FBI watched MJ for years, tapped in on everything and found absolutely nothing, not a shred of evidence… it’s just odd!

That's the thing with me, no evidence was ever found. Neverland was torn apart when the second accusation came out and nothing found to suggest anything had happened.

 

[ElaineDublin]

I loved Bohemian rhapsody,and the critics panned that too.

Me too and I though Taron was amazing in the Elton John one.

 

[Reality_tv_lover]

Plenty of people have shitty childhoods with horrible abuse.

That’s no excuse to welcome and encourage little kids into your bed. Mostly male kids.

MJ had a type for his muses, he didn’t abuse all of them, just the ones he thought he would be able to.

Not all paedophiles will abuse all kids they have access to, there are carefully selected victims.

MJ’s abuse of kids was so normal he felt able to say multiple times how natural it is to share his bed with kids, under guise of Slumber Party.

Parents who were stupid or vulnerable enough to be paid off welcomed invitations from MJ for their sons to share his bed. Grooming takes many forms.

A CSA or SA victim always has a time when they feel strong enough to tell. There could be a trigger such as parenthood, other victims speaking out, a trauma.

The MJ force is big, and they have money to keep any negativity suppressed. The fan cult who will threaten and terrorize, are reasons not to speak out.

For sure there are other victims out there. MJ found young boys attractive. His marriage to LM was a sham. And he never had sex with Debbie Rowe.

Ugh.

Yeah as a parent of two boys what the fuck are the parents doing letting their kids stay with him?

 

[MsPelzer]

pedalo

 

[Rocket Queen]

Just back from seeing the film for the second time. Cinema was full

We went last night, cheeky Tuesday night Nando’s followed by Michael and cinema was full then too.

 

[Magwitch]

A great comment ...This is why I agree with Pat Brown's belief that jurors shouldn't just be picked at random, that their should be roles made especially for being a juror. With training, so people know how to analyse things in an objective way. Something a lot of people seem to lack nowadays.

You are talking about professional jurors, who would have to be paid for their services. Can you not see how problematic this would be?

 

[Libertine1975]

Lots of manipulation on MJ’s part - but also downright arrogance and entitlement. Perhaps that comes down to being a global superstar, and not an ordinary Joe.

The marriage to Lisa Marie Presley (that lasted months), just after the initial allegations. Bizarre that LMP went through with it, when she must have known that she was being manipulated - perhaps she wasn’t in a good place.

It would be no surprise, if false allegations are mixed in with actual abuse. The families involved were willing to hand their children over to an adult man, because he was rich and famous (so very money driven) - it seems inevitable that they could make allegations regardless.
But still, it continued - having boys sleeping with him, unsupervised by another adult. Despite allegations it continued (much to the horror of MJs advisers and associates).
I feel that this was manipulation. In plain sight and the feeling / belief that he was above everybody else - and everything / anything can be bought.

Evidence that a child has accessed pornography in an adults home is a raging red flag and abusive in itself. It’s a known tool by paedophiles to manipulate, groom and abuse children for their own needs.

I've not read it but I understand LMP in her book has said that MJ and LMP were meeting up for like 4 years after the divorce to see if they could make things work between them.

 

[MrsBsDayOff]

That's the thing with me, no evidence was ever found. Neverland was torn apart when the second accusation came out and nothing found to suggest anything had happened.

Yeah I think MJ was innocent of what he was accused of

 

[samwilzrhcp]

Don’t want to hear his music ever again. There’s no smoke without fire, & let’s be honest since the early 90’s there’s been a hell of a lot of smoke.

 

[Ivegone]

It shouldn’t happen, but then I would expect it would be impossible to check / confirm either way.

I imagine they could be asked if they are a fan (but then how do they decide what makes someone a “fan”)?
All they have to do, is say no.

the minute they got up dancing should have all been thrown out the case being rescheduled to get new jurys

 

[Jusa]

I'm going to see it tomorrow with my daughter and teenage grandson. We all love his music, but not him as a person.

 

[RandomFrog]

The thing is though he was investigated very heavily I believe on numerous occasions yet nothing was found to even attempt to charge him.

If there was any truth to any of it wouldn't it have at least come out after his death? Like if it was a Jimmy Saville scenario he was protected by higher ups I mean

 

[Prince fan 1999]

All about the dollar. Just back from seeing Michael a 4th time and again it was packed

 

[jenny265]

I just watched Michael Jackson: The Trial on Channel 4. I always adored his music but thought he was a bit weird and ultimately believed everything I read about his abuse of children. Now I’m not so sure having watched this. Knowing now how much Martin Bashir manipulated the whole Diana situation, did he do the same with his reporting on MJ?

 

[MsPelzer]

I cannot listen to his music because he was a pedalo. He paraded his favorite child stars around like trophies. I also feel he messed with Lisa Marie Presleys son.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

You’re like me. You’ve done your research I see and there is just so much that doesn’t add up. There was something like 60 lies found in that “documentary “ hit piece. So anyone can be tried and convicted on two charlatans bad acting now? Disturbing and graphic accounts do not make for evidence and facts. He went through court and they found nothing. He wasn’t even in the same country when one of the man claim abuse happened. The media have loved to peddle the narrative. Oprah Winfrey, got the “victims” on her show and watched LN on a boat on her birthday ( who does that ??) . Someone who then turns out to be best friends with Harvey Weinstein and lined up girls for him to sexually abuse. Call me daft but I do believe that MJ knew too much about what was going on in Hollywood and that’s why they tried to pin it on him. He was used as a scapegoat for the likes of all the pedophiles coming out now.

Still can't get away from the fact he let (mostly)young boys in his bed. Whatever the facts,this is wrong surely??

 

[Handerton]

Hey you can tell a lot from song titles! Rick Astley sang “together forever”... and is still married to the same woman and no gossip on him cheating over his entire career. He must love his wife and be sure he’s “never gonna give her up” let alone run around and desert her.

Anyway remember how Jackson was so broke before he died? Anyone wondering how a man who owned the rights to thousands of famous songs by other artists couldn’t be making enough cash to pay his bills or support his spending habits would apparently be amazed to find that much of his income was going towards dozens of multimillion dollar pay offs that included NDAs and so haven’t ever been disclosed, so the rumour goes. I mean, we all heard allegations about Weinstein and a handful of actresses, but what came out involved hundreds of women nobody had mentioned, from office workers to hotel maids to interns and nannies. I don’t think Jackson is likely to have only ever had a handful of accusers, it’s just the majority aren’t public knowledge
I won’t listen to his music again. It’s too creepy now.

Stings that his prosecution was in a country that showed how they deal with the famous when OJ was in court