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Libertine1975

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They asked potential jurors if they were fans and many either said they weren't or they could be impartial which clearly wasn't true. It happens more than people realise. Everybody wanted a part of the trial, even non fans so it's not a surprise his actual fans were willing to lie so they could be close to him even with what it was.




BIB - There is a well known UK singer who has had a lot of accusations thrown at him over the years and even had his home raided but they found nothing. He played the victim and many believed he was innocent but the rumour is after he got his fingers burnt years ago, he stopped shitting in his back yard and only did it in places he knew he could get away with it...countries where there were lots of poor people who he could throw money at to turn the other way. A few people have come forward saying he abused them when they were kids but it was ignored and anytime something turned up online, it was quickly deleted because he was part of a wider circle.
Is the singer a bachelor boy? Trying to think who it could be and that's the one which springs to mind having been raided?
 
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Reality_tv_lover

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It's absolutely ridiculous! If it was Joe blogging down the street you would run a mile. I can't believe they allowed it
It is I'm glad it isn't just me. I thought I would be roasted for victim blaming but it's entirely the parents fault putting their kid in that position
 
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KawaiiAF

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Wow I had no idea Joe Jackson sexually abused his children. WTF now it all makes sense. I always said Michael must have been sexually abused as child he learnt it from somewhere, I assumed his father beat him and producers abused him possibly but now I see it was WAY more than that. Is that the only way he thought love was? Wow. So many of the Jackson 5 spoke about the abuse and yet Joe didn't go to jail?!

 
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Prince fan 1999

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Again it will be defended but I want everyone who does to answer this...if it came out Michael Jackson the plumber who lived down the street was having strange kids in his bed and tons of pictures of them half naked were found., would they rush to defend him?

Furthermore, would they let their own kids be alone with him.....it's funny the amount of supporters who swear he is innocent that either refuse to answer this or try and change the subject when asked because you know there is no way they would be fine with it but if they admitted that, it tells you all you need to know.
The parents were also groomed 😔
 
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Zozzat

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I've seen a lot of interviews and articles post this documentary..and I'm convinced it's all about money. Wade and James definitely lying. Hopefully the truth will come out one day and clear Michaels name x
 
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skysky101

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But they are still strangers
They are known people to the public, people feel like they know them. Michael was and still is one of the most famous people in the world. That can unfortunately cause people to have bad judgement. But yes the blame lies with the parents.
 
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AbnormalFrog

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He didn't have a childhood....that is something I don't get as an excuse because there are millions who went through the same or worse who didn't grow up to do what he did. It's as bad as the 'he was still a child/asexual' excuses when there is tons of evidence he was far from it. There are videos of him lusting after women and people talking about buying him porn etc which proves it was bullshit. Of course they then use that as an other excuse to proof his innocense like there havent't been countless instances of straight men married for years with kids being caught with CSAM containing just boys.


BIB - it's the saint effect that happens to everyone when they die. Diana is the perfect example. When she was alive she could be a right nasty cow. Even friends said she could be really vindictive yet the minute she died, people forgot she had flaws and could be nippy and decided she was a saint who was too good for us idiots. There are people out there who think the likes of Bundy, Dahmer and other serial killers were poor guys who just weren't treated right....it's mad but it happens.
Totally agree with everything you've wrote! Even down to the stuff about Diana, I dont think of her as the saint the world seems to either 🤣
 
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shellie

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He said he slept on the floor, that part always gets missed out / glossed over
He also said in another interview there was nothing wrong in sleeping in a bed with children. The exact quote being "What's wrong with sharing your bed? I didn't say I slept in the bed. Even if I did sleep in the bed, it's okay. I am not going to do anything sexual to a child."
 
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Ivegone

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They are known people to the public, people feel like they know them. Michael was and still is one of the most famous people in the world. That can unfortunately cause people to have bad judgement. But yes the blame lies with the parents.
I mean he could you know not let kids sleep over but I'm sure he didn't kidnap these kids and asked permission so yes everyone failed to safeguard these kids
 
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Horatio

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Yeah I read a similar article that summarised the allegations, very graphic, very grim as you say.

Im inclined to believe them. I know the Jackson stuff has been a mess going back and forth for years but I do believe when he was alive he held a lot of power to intimidate- that’s what wealth like that can do. I don’t know if it’s in this documentary but I saw something recently about his former housekeeper who says as much and retracted her testimony that said she saw no abuse - she now says she did and that he threatened her to keep quiet. At this point what would be in it for her to lie?
 
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Tangerine Dream

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The film is being absolutely panned . Kinda disappointed but expected nothing less to be fair :(
I've almost never enjoyed any of these big biopics.

I couldn't get through half an hour of Elivs because it was making me feel like I was on an acid trip. I normally like the director but not here, and Tom Hanks was terrible from what I saw.

I didn't bother with the Whitney or Amy films because Whitney managed to find someone who couldn't look anything less like Whintey and the Amy one looked so so cheap and cringe.

I skipped the Bruce Springsteen one when it was said to leave loads and loads out including some of his best music. What's the point?

It's a genre I've largely given up on.
 
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Dexy

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I can only see the marriage as an absolute sham. Married in May 94, Presley filed for divorce in January 96.
I have scented diffusers that lasted longer.

There is nothing to suggest that the marriage was authentic in any way, but then it looked very orchestrated - following allegations against him.
Same. I really wanted to believe it was real but then the timing and then her explanation of how they got together and she was still with Danny was crazy! It sounded made up to me, surely he wouldn’t be ok with that! Having said that in the interview her and MJ did with Diane Sawyer their love looked genuine. She spoke in interviews about how their relationship was real. I mean she’s Elvis’s daughter she doesn’t need the publicity? She said she was nervous about having kids with him because of a custody battle. I can see why she was worried about that. She was devastated when he died too. So I don’t know. Maybe it was genuine but just a typical Hollywood flash in the pan marriage where two big egos come together but have issues and the relationship just doesn’t have staying power.

*edited to add the diffuser comment really made me laugh 🤣
 
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