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I have a 16 month old and a pregnancy/birth podcast addiction, as a result of my pregnancy (yes, did I mention I was pregnant and have a child?)….

can I say it’s no surprise that The Bump has found itself in hot water. Felt shallow and cringey from Ep 1. There are so many other sensitive, informed podcasters/interviewers on this topic doing so MUCH better. Usually they have more qualifications then just being pregnant 1-5 times too.
 
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mindlessness

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It’s sort of her fault for creating a platform which presents itself as one that discusses serious topics (though they’ve never done it well!). If her platform was just for lifestyle/parenting/beauty/fitness/fashion/celeb gossip she could avoid serious stuff by saying it’s not part of the brand.
 
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handunderchin

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They are all so bloody weird ….. middle aged women fangirling over the MMOL hosts trying to one up each other’s level of adoration 🤢
 
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mfch

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if the Shameless girls can do it, Holly can do it. I could see her doing something like the High Low, there has been no real podcast to have filled that gap yet! Plus she’d get all the advertising profits to herself and probably make way more.
She sort of tried with the podcast she had about pop culture tbh I never listened as the premise wasn't interesting. I love Holly but I think she's comfortable where she is and I can respect that. Mamamia is going to go down a weird rabbit hole if the only real talent they have are all related to one another.

I wonder if Coco will be working at Mamamia in a year or two. Luca never went to university or had a proper job, he just worked at the family business.
 
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giveitaboneploise

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The "class" talk at the end of Jessie's No Filter episode was so cringe.
She didn't exactly grow up poor, from what I know she grew up somewhere around Ryde? and her parents are teachers, hardly on struggle street and then the whole Oh you can afford things now and now you have a life in the East, my eyes almost disappeared beg=hind my head :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
This made me cringe so hard. I’m not from Sydney, so maybe I just don’t get it, but fuck. Her parents are both teachers, she went to private school. How exactly did she grow up poor?!
 
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@whyamihere

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Laura has a problematic history as a white feminist. Laura frequently gets called out for problematic shit or will make comments in support of her problematic peers eg Brit and MJ and will double down on her opinion, delete, block, ignore anyone who even respectfully calls out hypocrisy or negative behaviour.
It’s “pick me” white feminism, same style as Mia Freedman. Feminism but let’s not offend the men folk!
 
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marthamartyr

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Look I like Clem but she's being a deliberate troll. She's everywhere slagging off marriage and relationships and whatever else- potentially its valid! But she has a book to drum up suspense for and then sell. There's a reason she's doing it.
I don’t think this is troll behaviour at all. If you looked at his post - so many women were saying exactly what she did before she even came out and gave her opinion. She called it out
 
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cashedupbogan

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Everyday they're like "oh support women's media and subscribe" and the next day it's "oh this is too hard and we will just write/discuss fluff"
 
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Sleepyapple

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👏👏 I'm glad not everyone sucks up to Jessie/Mia.
Look, this might be unpopular, but I actually think it is perfectly okay for women to want to share their positive birth stories, and I strongly feel that it is unfair to suggest that a woman cannot do so for fear of upsetting someone else who had a traumatic experience. I am absolutely on board with content and/or trigger warnings, so that people can choose to avoid content that is triggering or upsetting for them. Of course we shouldn’t go around sharing our stories with others at random and without permission. However, many people enjoy listening to positive birth stories. I especially loved them prior to having my first child, and I still love listening to podcasts like Australian Birth Stories. Some will find them indulgent and that’s fine, but they have a place.

Many, many women have positive birth experiences and I don’t see why everything must be doom and gloom about birth. That leads to unnecessary fear and worry for new mums. I completely agree that Jessie warrants criticism for inflating the length of her labour etc, but if she or any other mum feels like they would relive their birth experience, that doesn’t take away from another person’s traumatic experience and their right to grieve that. Lots of women love pregnancy — but for me it is horrendous, endless nausea and vomiting with not a second of relief until the placenta is out. I’m not going to go around saying other women can’t share that they enjoyed their pregnancies, just because I have feelings of deep sadness around my own experiences. So I’m not sure why I can’t say that I’d happily give birth over again, because that has been the good part for me. I’ve had women who judged me for needing anti-emetics to survive pregnancy get up in arms and tell me I was silly for not having pain relief in labour.

I think the real issues arise where we don’t acknowledge that we have been fortunate in a certain domain and that others aren’t less successful etc because they’ve struggled. That’s probably more the issue with Jessie than her having a positive birth story.
 
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You’re right, I 100% guarantee this is another Jessie exaggeration. My husband is an anaesthetist and has done countless epidurals. He said a 60+ hour labour in Australia is near unheard of (he said it’s very unaustralian but would occur in developing countries). He said she may have been in spurious labour but presently, hospitals wouldn’t allow a woman to be in labour past 24 hours and if so, she would put in for c-section (also depends on time - they don’t want to do c-section after 10pm so they would schedule it sooner than 24 hours).

Christ! Exactly! I call BS on that - 62 … and a half hours. That’s more than 2 days. I don’t know any medical professionals who would let you go that long in hospital. What she means is, is that she had some labour pains at home and then went to hospital to fully laboured for a day. She could not be more annoying!
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Oh and how embarrassing are these posts!
 
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marthaedwards11

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Their whole “what women are talking about” spiel is completely redundant at this point. I loved the podcast in the early days with Mons and later with Rachel Corbett!
 
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aFewOfYouHaveAsked

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Spotted Mia/Leigh/Holly/Claire in the wild today in the lounge at Sydney airport. 👀 I heard Mia before I saw them. 😆 A bit surreal to be sitting here reading Tattle with them in my eyesight. Leigh really does not look well IRL.
If your business was media and primarily audio you’d think there’d be a better representation for your company than Leigh the seagull FFS. Maybe she’s there for her great writing skills instead … 😏
 
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Taylor777

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Can some poor sucker listen to Jessie’s birth story ep so I don’t have to?
Ok will do a recap but I’m 18 mins in and this is what has happened so far:

- she was NOT in proper labour for 62hrs. She is doing yoga, going for walks, watering plants up until Saturday night (40hrs in). She just had some contractions that were light, I would say very early labour/Braxton Hicks. Most women go through this before birth.
- she is very woo woo. Talks a lot about calm birth, going “within” herself and feeling empowered to let her body do what it needs to do and not be in a rush. Standard Jessie taking something pretty regular and turning it into some special experience
- contractions didn’t get strong until late Saturday night. Went to hospital early morning Sunday (had the baby later that day). So standard birth.
- craps on about all the techniques she uses for pain, sounds like a pain in the ass to the nurses and anaesthetist
- Mia and Holly fawning all over her about her “experience”
- got the epidural at 7am Sunday. Talk incessantly about her broken leg experience and how it prepared her for the pain of birth.

More to come …
 
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