Oo I’ve not heard this before!
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I think she said it on a podcast with Shaun attwood. Seems more likely that they were used for things like that rather than people in high places covering up pweirdo rings
Yeah makes more sense than the rings and the Freemasons stuff. It’s when it’s get into all that that I think it’s balls. I think this case is used as a distraction in the media but underneath it all is a tragic accident
Nonsense. Police are supposed to be ‘nosy’ that’s in their job description. They can also recover deleted files if need be so deleting things isn’t always a guarantee they won’t find tit.
Deleting them raises further questions and has potentially hampered the investigation. The police will want to know why they were deleted and what they were, if those calls were nothing to do with Maddie, then there’s no need to delete them since the police will see that, move on and carry on looking for actual evidence. Instead of being honest about what those calls were about, they decided to muddy the waters instead.
I feel like 95% of my suspicion surrounding these two is a result of their own bizarre actions.
Just what I thought.
The fact someone believes leaving them alone is preferable is baffling to me
Can I ask... What is with the sedating of the kids? Is that a fact or just what people have presumed? Unless your kids were bad sleepers you wouldn't need to sedate them. If your kids sleep through they sleep through. I always wondered where that came from.
My general view is that the holiday club needs looking a bit more. According to Kate maddie was extra tired that day and didn't want a story...
My general view is that the holiday club needs looking a bit more. According to Kate maddie was extra tired that day and didn't want a story...
I think it came from Portuguese police I don’t jnow if it was ever fact probably more speculation. Does anyone else know?
You’d be surprised how many people sedate their kids. My friend uses Phenergan Elixir to send her kids to sleep. On planes, long car journeys and Christmas Eve so they don’t wake up. It’s used for travel sickness and it knocks lots of people out. She gets it over the counter at boots and sees nothing wrong with doing so. Iv used the tablet version on a cruise once when it was really rough. I could hardly keep my eyes open.
I've always thought murat had a bigger part to play in this but not the role everyone was led to believe.I saw a few people mention phone logs earlier which reminded me of another interesting point!
So, remember a suspect named Robert Murat had been identified? It has been speculated that Robert might be more significant that we think. That he maybe has involvement high up, perhaps governmental (stick with me here!)
Robert had dual portugese and British citizenship and split his time between both placed (had a German girlfriend) He had been a police translator for Norfolk at one time.
Anyhoooo, for some reason, Robert booked a flight to portugal at midnight of Sunday 30th April and a few hours later was at the airport and in Portugal for Monday the 1st May. On 4th May, he volunteered his translator expertise but acted so suspiciously he got himself arrested and dodgy stories about him began appearing. HOWEVER, could this have been a deliberate attempt to distract?
What is VERY interesting is on Wednesday 2nd May at 3PM both Robert and Gerry turned their phones off, within 6 minutes of each other. BOTH phones remained switched off for 32hrs and BOTH were switched on at 11pm on 3rd May, 1 hour after the Madeline alarm was officially raised. That's a mad coincidence!!
When Gerry was asked by a reporter If he had previously known Robert, he looked shift AF and said "no comment." Pretty unusual answer if you didn't know some dude in Portugal.
So, was Robert drafted in and connected to the same influential, powerful people that Gerry was connected to? Was he deliberately brought in to aid in the cover up? And does this add any weight to the theory that something happened earlier than 3rd?!
I'm not surprised by anything parents do to get sleep
I just wondered if this was actually true with the mccanns or speculation.
It makes me angry because working class folks like myself wouldn’t be able to keep the twins so there’s a HUGE class thing at play, it’s not fair and I know they’ve been through enough but they wouldn’t have been through anything had they been responsible, middle class folks are not better than working class, and Infact I find many working class folks to be far more life intelligent that MC.
tit meant to quote who you quoted!
It’s been a while since I properly looked at this case but this thread has brought up some stuff which I previously forgot about for example a statement from Yvonne Martin who was a social worker in the uk who lived part time in Portugal near where Maddie went missing. Notice how k&g tell her they checked on the kids every hour, not every 20mins like they said. Few other interesting details there too, like Kate saying she thinks M was taken by a couple, and wasn’t David Payne the guy mentioned in the Gaspar Statement? Gonna have to look it up.
I've not posted on this before, but i think that giving out about the Portuguese not acting fast enough is a bit 20/20 hindsight, in 99% of cases it would be more likely that a child just wandered off. my son did this at his grandparents house the first thing that came to my head where would he have gone not that he has been taken or abducted!! luckily he was hiding in the garden and wouldn't answer only found him cos he was giggling, kids that age do things like that. the "they've taken her" never sat right with me. why would that be the first thing that came into a mother's mind? also the twins sleeping through all that commotion ppl in and out all night? these are the things that don't add up for me.
Did you mean me?
What do you mean you wouldn’t be able to keep the twins? Class has nothing to do with it they didn’t break the law.
But in cases like this I do think your right about different classes being treated differently overall in cases like this
im sure I read somewhere they rang sky before they called police .
No not you, angry at the situation and it’s to do with class that the sun didn’t call them feckless parents in the paper for leaving their kids in, it’s to do with class that SW didn’t remove their twins for being utterly irresponsible that their eldest went missing, it’s everything to do with class.
i think the public would have far more sympathy if they actually said we made a terrible mistake but when they did the Crime watch reconstruction i think it was Gerry who said "We did nothing wrong ! " it was just so arrogant.
i cannot fathom how 2 Drs so intelligent people and their friends could think leaving young children alone in unlocked apartments wasnt wrong.
I absolutely agree. Some humility would have gone a long way. It’s like they we’re trying to convince themselves it was ok with the arrogance.
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