horrendous. Absolutely horrendous. Can’t imagine how the parents must have felt
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When children are murdered, even toddlers, parents are left with fond memories and even though they've lost their precious children, they've something left. Photos, videos, teddy's they loved.
These parents have been left with nothing and I think that's why I find this case so emotive.
I think we all would feel the same here, that you see a tiny helpless baby and you'd give your soul to protect it, it's just human instinct. So to imagine this pretty blonde nurse with her seemingly ordinary life would seek a job where the goal is access to these tiny beings and would choose to harm them in anyway, it feels so ducked up its quite unbelievable.
But sadly, people may seek out a job to allow them access to the vulnerable, babies, elderly, disabled, just to abuse their power.
Are we swayed by LL because she looks angelic? She looks like a girl who'd help your granny with her shopping, is that giving us bias? Usually I don't fall for that but she just doesn't "look like she'd hurt a fly" and I'm not even sorry to say it, I can't shift that thought.
These parents have been left with nothing and I think that's why I find this case so emotive.
I think we all would feel the same here, that you see a tiny helpless baby and you'd give your soul to protect it, it's just human instinct. So to imagine this pretty blonde nurse with her seemingly ordinary life would seek a job where the goal is access to these tiny beings and would choose to harm them in anyway, it feels so ducked up its quite unbelievable.
But sadly, people may seek out a job to allow them access to the vulnerable, babies, elderly, disabled, just to abuse their power.
Are we swayed by LL because she looks angelic? She looks like a girl who'd help your granny with her shopping, is that giving us bias? Usually I don't fall for that but she just doesn't "look like she'd hurt a fly" and I'm not even sorry to say it, I can't shift that thought.
I'll be honest, if it was based on looks she'd be not guilty because she looks like such a kind and lovely person.When children are murdered, even toddlers, parents are left with fond memories and even though they've lost their precious children, they've something left. Photos, videos, teddy's they loved.
These parents have been left with nothing and I think that's why I find this case so emotive.
I think we all would feel the same here, that you see a tiny helpless baby and you'd give your soul to protect it, it's just human instinct. So to imagine this pretty blonde nurse with her seemingly ordinary life would seek a job where the goal is access to these tiny beings and would choose to harm them in anyway, it feels so ducked up its quite unbelievable.
But sadly, people may seek out a job to allow them access to the vulnerable, babies, elderly, disabled, just to abuse their power.
Are we swayed by LL because she looks angelic? She looks like a girl who'd help your granny with her shopping, is that giving us bias? Usually I don't fall for that but she just doesn't "look like she'd hurt a fly" and I'm not even sorry to say it, I can't shift that thought.
BUT looks mean duck all and I bet most people who say she is innocent, think so based on her looks.
I've based my thoughts on what little we've read about. I don't think they'd charge her unless they had proof, but then again the failings at the hospital scream thay something is amiss.
I hate speculating with such a horrific case, though. It makes me feel horrible for some reason.
Makes me feel like I'm a rubber necking a car accident.
It's probably the most upsetting case I've ever seen in my lifetime. I'm not interested in anything private about the babies, I'm genuinely interested in this case though.
My friends have had babies in the countess of Chester, I live on the Wirral so it's a popular choice.
If my wife or I ever decided to have a child it's likely we'd have chosen there as our hospital prior to this.
If it's a cover up, I wouldn't want to go there, if they had that many baby murders committed before noticing, I wouldn't want to go there. Maybe it being close to home makes me care.
My wife won't let me talk about this one, finds it too bleak as I'm invested x
It's probably the most upsetting case I've ever seen in my lifetime. I'm not interested in anything private about the babies, I'm genuinely interested in this case though.
My friends have had babies in the countess of Chester, I live on the Wirral so it's a popular choice.
If my wife or I ever decided to have a child it's likely we'd have chosen there as our hospital prior to this.
If it's a cover up, I wouldn't want to go there, if they had that many baby murders committed before noticing, I wouldn't want to go there. Maybe it being close to home makes me care.
My wife won't let me talk about this one, finds it too bleak as I'm invested x
My heart sank reading that.
I followed the Star Hobson case on Tattle and elsewhere and I hope this thread will be similar to that. Many opposing opinions were voiced and respectfully challenged and debated. Many people shared their own traumatic stories and were treated kindly and with respect. Following these kind of cases is really harrowing at times and it makes a big difference when everyone on the thread is nice to each other and treats sensitive matters with care.
She was arrested and released under investigation. Once she was charged its a different matter. Though yes its innocent until proven guilty, the amount of evidence required to charge someone especially for such serious offences is significant. Remand is for prevention of causing further harm and also preventing absconding.
My thoughts are just with all of the parents. Just unimaginable pain.
I don’t know what to think. What gets me is there was an attempted murder, and then a murder charge against some of the victims when the charges and names of the babies released. Evidence that she tried, and then went back. It’s going to be tough.
I don’t know what to think. What gets me is there was an attempted murder, and then a murder charge against some of the victims when the charges and names of the babies released. Evidence that she tried, and then went back. It’s going to be tough.
These photos of her are quite disturbing. She is said to be so caring yet she is clearly mocking intellectual disability in at least two of them. It would stand out to me even if it was a random person‘s photos I had stumbled on and goes beyond normal goofing off imo.
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Bar potentially the second one, I think there’s nothing deeper here than her just pulling daft faces imo.
I have to disagree, she just looks like she’s making goofy faces for the camera to me. Not unusual when around friends and with possible alcohol consumption. There is no context available to be able to say she’s mocking intellectual disability.
Why on earth have you got those photos? I'm so baffled. Everyone pulls stupid photos when they're out. This just looks like a young lass pulling silly faces. If someone i knew posted photos of themselves pulling these faces I'd just see someone was pissed and pulling goofy faces for photos. Not a killer or a person picking on disabilities.
These really aren't disturbing and even the most caring people pull silly faces intoxicated (and sober) these photos don't suggest or show anything about her character. I think you're probably clutching at straws here and we'll get a better picture of what others say about the type of person she is when the trial commences next week.
I’m speaking from a Social work point of view here, and completely my own opinion of course. Somebody mentioned people working with Lucy didn’t think there was anything off about her. The term “off” I guess could mean introverted, shy, have non-traditional hobbies or doesn’t engage in work outings. But then again it could also mean the opposite. Think about it, somebody who has a crazy social life, maybe takes drugs at the weekend and is quite outspoken and controversial in the workplace. Would they be classed as “off” too?
I also will be following this case closely. As a previous poster mentioned, the crimes she is being accused of were a couple of years before she was actually arrested. That to me doesn’t scream scapegoat. I imagine quite a few nurses would be involved in the care of neonatal babies so it would be difficult to pinpoint blame to one person unlike social work where you might see the particular worker names in a news article, but overall the local authority is blamed. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a social worker on trial for murder.
If for example 3 children on my caseload died over a period of 2-3 years, I would be in the firing line after the first death. Completely different situation to nursing I know, but as the person in charge of safeguarding them, it would be me rather than my up-line. Everything we do is logged, recorded, audited etc just like nursing. I have managed to go all of my adult working years without being suspended or arrested and for good reason.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that if a child dies in our professions, generally it is a failing by many rather than one. So the fact that she has been solely accused of the murder of so many poor babies is just harrowing.
I also will be following this case closely. As a previous poster mentioned, the crimes she is being accused of were a couple of years before she was actually arrested. That to me doesn’t scream scapegoat. I imagine quite a few nurses would be involved in the care of neonatal babies so it would be difficult to pinpoint blame to one person unlike social work where you might see the particular worker names in a news article, but overall the local authority is blamed. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a social worker on trial for murder.
If for example 3 children on my caseload died over a period of 2-3 years, I would be in the firing line after the first death. Completely different situation to nursing I know, but as the person in charge of safeguarding them, it would be me rather than my up-line. Everything we do is logged, recorded, audited etc just like nursing. I have managed to go all of my adult working years without being suspended or arrested and for good reason.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that if a child dies in our professions, generally it is a failing by many rather than one. So the fact that she has been solely accused of the murder of so many poor babies is just harrowing.
They were included in the American article someone shared earlier.
Parents are sticking by her it seems. I haven't seen other family members mentioned, wonder are they supporting her.
I imagine she'll be a massive suicide risk at the moment
No one knows what anyone is capable of. She might look a caring person but looks mean nothing. I think Ted bundy was quite attractive and look at the vile, evil things he did.
This is going to be hard to follow. To hurt innocent babies just goes against all your instincts and I can't even get my head around it to be honest. It's so horrific. I just pray if she is guilty that all the parents get the justice they deserve. It doesn't bring their babies back though.
Rest in peace little angels xxxx
This is going to be hard to follow. To hurt innocent babies just goes against all your instincts and I can't even get my head around it to be honest. It's so horrific. I just pray if she is guilty that all the parents get the justice they deserve. It doesn't bring their babies back though.
Rest in peace little angels xxxx
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