It was disgusting seeing two of the protesters outside then going into the Thirlwall then sitting on the front row in direct eyesight of the parentsI really hope the parents explore every legal avenue they have to make all these fuckers pay for the shit they are putting them through. I have the utmost respect for all the parents but there are one or two mums in particular that I think will have their balls for earrings
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some more headlines
metro.co.uk
really good to see another side to the story at last
Families of murdered babies say Lucy Letby’s campaign is ‘publicity-grabbing'
Representatives for the families have said the Free Letby campaign is based on flawed reasoning and an attempt for the nurse, who was found guilty of murdering seven babies, to 'control the narrative'.
metro.co.uk
really good to see another side to the story at last
But I’ll reverse the question. What are you going to do if the CCRC or appeal court reject the new application? Or she’s charged with more incidents, maybe even at another hospital?
Are you going to keep coming online to defend a baby killer? Still think ‘scapegoat’? Or finally accept her own words. That she’s evil, she did this, and she did it on purpose?
this is brilliantly done. Seeing it laid out like that with the extracts, it blows my mind again how they took a wait and see type of approach. Nobody would expect them to know Letby was deliberately harming and killing babies at this point. They would expect them to suspend her while they investigate though. It’s as simple as that.An alternative view from the BBC - Judith Moritz (who covered the whole trial and wrote a book) has a scrolly timeline of incidents and hospital responses. It's top level, but it tells a damning story about Letby and the hospital management
Lucy Letby: Emails and private notes reveal inside story of hospital struggle to stop killer nurse - BBC News
Judith Moritz, who has covered the Letby case from the start, takes us inside the evidence to piece together how events unfolded at the Countess of Chester Hospital - and why it took more than a year to stop a killer.www.bbc.co.uk
oldjamfan
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Exactly Tof. And the way the deaths followed her from night shift to day shift and then magically stopped when she was on holiday only to start up again immediately upon her return was startling. Numbers alone can’t explain all of that (and that’s without all the other evidence).Whether the spike is unusual or not is actually irrelevant at this stage. Murder is murder whether that’s one death or more. you Don’t just write off murders because it’s statistically normal.
Spikes and statistics in comparison to previous data or other hospitals should just be used as a tool (one of many) to identify trends and whether further investigation is required. Which is what the statistician in the inquiry said. Statistics is not a diagnositc tool for causes of death
Someone made a comment on Reddit yesterday that they had not looked at all these deaths retrospectively and ‘sharp shooter’ identified Letby. They had identified Letby in the middle of all this, they didn’t remove her, and she continued with her attacks. They couldn’t ’sharp shooter’ her before the future events even happened.
The statistics argument is going nowhere.
It’s not been a good week for the Letbyists.
Susan Gilby's evidence a real eye-opener. A very murky business about missing emails between Dr Steve and Harvey - hopefully the police are looking into this.
Lucy Letby parents 'believe crimes will be biggest miscarriage of justice ever'
Lucy Letby's parents Jonathan, 79, and Susan, 65, have shared their belief that their daughter is the victim of one of the biggest miscarriages of justice in history
"The Sun can exclusively reveal the pair have shared their personal thoughts with statistical misrepresentation consultant, Professor Richard Gill. "
statistical misrepresentation consultant
AllieBee
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It just beggars belief how anyone can think she's a scapegoat. The managers bent over backwards to support her, she played the victim card very well. But you can't get away from facts, it wasn't the consultants being terrible at their jobs, because no babies came to harm when Letby was off duty, on holiday, or after she left. They were only supposedly terrible at their jobs when she was around. The scapegoat nonsense is no more than conspiracy theory and shame on anyone who believes in it. There is one hell of a lot of evidence against the Letby cunt, 10 months trial and thousands of pages. She is guilty.
MmmB777
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I think it’s fairly malign to say that you looked at the case and had to go out and find other causes of death which is a terrible starting position for anybody claiming to be independent or objective.
I think it’s fairly malign to, after 30+ years, change your paper to fit your new theories.
It could be that, much like the endocrinologist they conned earlier on (can’t remember his name begins with W) these eminent experts were given half the picture. The endocrinologist changed his mind once he was actually made aware of the whole story.
It’s not just this mistake about mother A&B’s condition, there are several more. Including getting the date a baby died wrong, stating it happened when the baby was being treated at a different hospital.
There is no way thatLee’s mates the M&S experts could have performed a thorough review of all medical evidence in the time frame they had even if they had it, which I think is unlikely. Again, I’d say that’s fairly malign considering the seriousness of the crimes committed.
It’s also obvious to anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge about the case that almost everything they have said was heard in the original trial so what on earth was the purpose of courting the media and why call it new evidence when it simply isn’t. There is due process they can go through and to conduct a press conference in this manner was grotesque. They seemed to have a laugh and some fun too so that’s cute I guess.
Nobody has any obligation to give any of this any time of day at all until it’s heard in the courts. Which is highly unlikely because none of it is new or it relies so heavily on baseless hypothesis (like birth injuries without any evidence) that it is worthless.
I’ve always said there are a few camps of people that are attracted to The Truther cause and the faux intellectual ‘oh you wouldn’t understand and don’t have the critical thinking’ yadayadayada camp is the most nauseating of all really. At least you know where you are with the perverts and thickos
I think it’s fairly malign to, after 30+ years, change your paper to fit your new theories.
It could be that, much like the endocrinologist they conned earlier on (can’t remember his name begins with W) these eminent experts were given half the picture. The endocrinologist changed his mind once he was actually made aware of the whole story.
It’s not just this mistake about mother A&B’s condition, there are several more. Including getting the date a baby died wrong, stating it happened when the baby was being treated at a different hospital.
There is no way that
It’s also obvious to anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge about the case that almost everything they have said was heard in the original trial so what on earth was the purpose of courting the media and why call it new evidence when it simply isn’t. There is due process they can go through and to conduct a press conference in this manner was grotesque. They seemed to have a laugh and some fun too so that’s cute I guess.
Nobody has any obligation to give any of this any time of day at all until it’s heard in the courts. Which is highly unlikely because none of it is new or it relies so heavily on baseless hypothesis (like birth injuries without any evidence) that it is worthless.
I’ve always said there are a few camps of people that are attracted to The Truther cause and the faux intellectual ‘oh you wouldn’t understand and don’t have the critical thinking’ yadayadayada camp is the most nauseating of all really. At least you know where you are with the perverts and thickos
Someone on websleuths has suggested that Letby was an asymptomatic carrier of a bacteria passed on through her cats which may have killed the babies.
They are actually really good on websleuths. The regular posters all know she is guilty as fuck but there's some complete oddballs that have cropped up lately. It seems to be a common theme on the socials.
Remind me who made her a scapegoat again?
www.kentonline.co.uk
Credit to FyrestarOmega on reddit:
Hospital chief had wrongful conviction concerns after Letby arrest, inquiry told
Dr Susan Gilby was giving evidence to the Thirlwall Inquiry into the events surrounding Lucy Letby’s crimes.
Credit to FyrestarOmega on reddit:
Yeah a few of us went
Going home soon and will read the submissions & transcripts again, only Kate B has asked for it to be paused and we know the reasons for that!
I really don’t know how the families have the strength to keep going through all this for going on for 10 years