Lucy Letby Case #76

Status
Thread locked. We start a new thread when they have over 1000 posts, click the blue button to see all threads for this topic and find the latest open thread.
New to Tattle Life? Click "Order Thread by Most Liked Posts" button below to get an idea of what the site is about:
People like Eirian and Karen Rees thought they had all the information needed to make a decision on whether Letby was safe, but they didn't.
 
  • Like
  • Sick
Reactions: 15
A couple of thoughts:
1. The ‘tetchy’ email from SB is relatively tame. Seems to stick to facts while making it obvious that the request was somewhat too late and unreasonable
2. Amongst all other things to come from this review, I hope the inclusion of LLs parents at meetings and in correspondence is raised as grossly inappropriate
 
  • Like
  • Heart
Reactions: 28
A couple of thoughts:
1. The ‘tetchy’ email from SB is relatively tame. Seems to stick to facts while making it obvious that the request was somewhat too late and unreasonable
2. Amongst all other things to come from this review, I hope the inclusion of LLs parents at meetings and in correspondence is raised as grossly inappropriate
I was just using tetchy in a light hearted way....I'm definitely Team Consultants!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 13
It’s all so unprofessional from EP and her team when you read the transcripts from last Monday I’m amazed anyone stuck it out on the ward she was in charge of
 
  • Like
Reactions: 19
What the hell must have it been like to work there? Sounds toxic as duck. I mean you get toxic workplaces with sociopathic people in middle management, but they don’t often involve a serial killer of preemie babies! I mean all the Letby supporters are right about one thing - there was some awful NHS managers in place that enabled this to happen!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 22
The comment EP made about the deaths being expected and due to poorly babies was strange. Baby A was stable and his cause of death was unknown, baby C was small but there wasnt really a cause of death for him. Baby D infection was resolving. These were all babies you would expect to survive. Baby I appeared to be very stable when Lucy wasn't around.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 23
The comment EP made about the deaths being expected and due to poorly babies was strange. Baby A was stable and his cause of death was unknown, baby C was small but there wasnt really a cause of death for him. Baby D infection was resolving. These were all babies you would expect to survive. Baby I appeared to be very stable when Lucy wasn't around.
Not sure about baby D actually. They’ve released the Datix form for baby D (as well as babies A, C and E), and no where does it say the baby was improving

 
Not sure about baby D actually. They’ve released the Datix form for baby D (as well as babies A, C and E), and no where does it say the baby was improving

IMG_2280.jpeg
IMG_2281.jpeg

Child D did not have overwhelming infection nor did her death follow any kind of expected normal pattern for a baby that succumbs to overwhelming infection. Clearly letby herself didn’t consider child D sick.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 29
That phrase from Karen Rees - 'Your nursing team are fully behind you'. It's so bleeping offensive isn't it? Firstly - no they weren't. Plenty of the nursing team thought she was odd, cold, egotistical, cliquey and unpleasant, as we've heard. Secondly - they weren't 'her' team. I know it's a minor linguistic thing but it sounds like queen bee and her drones - your team. She's not in charge, she's not powerful, she's not a band 6 and she's not even a good nurse. Glad she'll die in jail.
 
  • Like
  • Heart
Reactions: 37
Not sure about baby D actually. They’ve released the Datix form for baby D (as well as babies A, C and E), and no where does it say the baby was improving

Datix forms aren’t the only medical evidence though are they?
 
  • Like
Reactions: 12
Reporting from the inquiry today

I’m sure that if she had access to the NNU patient notes that she’d 💯 be checking them regularly. No question. She was obsessed and couldn’t help herself. It’s interesting that this woman who didn’t really know Letby particularly well and wasn’t caught up in the drama and personalities of the ward had a strong uneasy sense that she had committed the crimes. Again, although her role was further removed than those on the ward, here is another decent person blaming themselves endlessly for not having acted sooner.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 25
Lucy had plenty of friends still left on the ward feeding her info. Such as Janet Cox and Dr Noname.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 19
Not sure about baby D actually. They’ve released the Datix form for baby D (as well as babies A, C and E), and no where does it say the baby was improving

Letby herself said the death was unexpected in a text. The person she was texting had said that the baby was doing well. This one datix form does not stack up against the rest of the evidence. And dont forget at the time if baby D's death no one was even thinking intentional harm, they were looking for any reason it could be
 
  • Like
Reactions: 16
Transcript is up.
---
Datix forms aren’t the only medical evidence though are they?
And now I’m reading the transcript… it’s amazing that basically the whole grilling is the fact that their filling of datix and management of them was clearly appalling 😅 another great gotcha moment.. not.
---
I’m sure this is a little oversight by letby. Reporting an unexpected death for baby E but not putting ANY staff down as involved 🤔 such a brilliant and clever nurse though 🙃

IMG_2299.jpeg
IMG_2300.jpeg
 
Last edited:
  • Like
  • Wow
Reactions: 21
I'm not making any excuses for KR or any of them but Letby really was playing them all like a fiddle, wasn't she, the manipulative witch? Crying and carrying on when it suited but angrily, persistently demanding four apologies from the consultants ('collective' just wouldn't do!), wheeling in her parents to lay on the agony, etc. Arch manipulators are very, very clever at what they do and they were clearly no match for her. It clearly became all about LL, from the nursing team right up to the execs and definitely not about the dead and dying babies.
She is a covert Narcissist, like her parents, they controlled her life
---
Any lingering sympathy I had towards her parents has now totally gone. They created a monster in more than one sense.
They are the cief Narcissists
 
  • Like
Reactions: 11
It feels to me that Debbie Peacock saw Dr Breary write that he would be 'very surprised if the deaths were connected' and then decided that meant he was saying they definitely 100% absolutely weren't connected, and didn't do anything else in her role of Patient and Risk Safety?
Screenshot 2024-10-23 125530.png
Screenshot 2024-10-23 125451.png
Screenshot 2024-10-23 125508.png
 
  • Like
Reactions: 11
Debbie Peacock…extremely well qualified on paper but in reality a complete waste of space. Can’t read data, can’t recall. What did she actually do? Bustle between wards looking important with a bunch of files but actually doing nothing. All the managerial stuff are a bunch of incompetents.
 
  • Like
  • Heart
  • Sad
Reactions: 24
Status
Thread locked. We start a new thread when they have over 1000 posts, click the blue button to see all threads for this topic and find the latest open thread.