Any lingering sympathy I had towards her parents has now totally gone. They created a monster in more than one sense.
Just read an article from The Mirror dated 7 Sept this year to see if I can see their actual ages. It says her mother is now 63 and her dad 78 so back in 2017 her mum would have been 56 and her dad 71 so hardly elderly and certainly not her mum.They were literally meeting with letby every week and feeding her information regarding the reviews. Keeping in mind that they didn’t even let the consultants see them without heavy redactions. In fact Letby’s bleeping parents were better informed about those reviews. And of course they’re neglecting that they suggested there should indeed be a forensic look into it all. It’s crazy.
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Omg “elderly parents”. Who bleeping cares? Her mum isn’t that old is she?! What the duck has that got to do with anything. Why would any member of senior staff consider her bleeping parents for even a second!! If she was that fussed about her bleeping elderly parents she’d have lived near them wouldn’t she and not made her dad drive her back and forth. She’d have not been clearly slagging them off to Alison Ventress either. She moved away from them ffs.
Makes them sound like little hunched over frail 90 year oldsJust read an article from The Mirror dated 7 Sept this year to see if I can see their actual ages. It says her mother is now 63 and her dad 78 so back in 2017 her mum would have been 56 and her dad 71 so hardly elderly and certainly not her mum.
Janet is on her graduation photo so must have been friendly with her for a long time. She's a lot older than Letby and their friendship and her continuing loyalty to Letby does feel very weird.Makes them sound like little hunched over frail 90 year oldsher dad was older for a dad of someone her age but that’s even less relevant isn’t it. Crazy.
Poor Nurse T. Felt very sad reading that. She definitely seems to say that her and another anon nurse (maybe X) were Letby’s only real friends. I think Janet is a little cling on and only came to this afterwards because she loves the drama and feeling important.
Do you mean you think Eirian gave Liz the info?Going to try and explain myself clearly here but probably won’t.. you know Liz Hull did that article recently about these random other deaths nobody had heard about.. aren’t the numbers and causes of death Liz Hull writes about a match for chief pathologist and consultant and resident massive thicko Eirian Powell’s ones she gives to the indictment babies in her review she did? I personally think so!
I wouldn’t have thought so but I think somehow Liz saw that and has reported on them as different deaths because they weren’t the causes at all for indictment babies. Do you think they match Liz’s report too? They seem very familiar to that and that’s quite a massive mistake if actually they were just Powells interpretations of the indictment babies deaths. I think someone got it in their pack at the inquiry and leaked it to Liz? Maybe not understanding either?Do you mean you think Eirian gave Liz the info?
All hail Queen MmmmbopIt was my email that did it![]()
I will look into the cases from 2010 to 2014 as soon as is possible, between all my clinic duties and without any of your help which hasn't been offered anyway.Some new evidence up.....featuring this tetchy email from SB.
INQ0006769 – email correspondence between Countess of Chester staff relating to the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health review, dated between 14/07/2016 and 15/07/2016 | The Thirlwall Inquiry
Examining the events at the Countess of Chester Hospital and their implications following the trial, and subsequent convictions, of former neonatal nurse Lucy Letby of murder and attempted murder of babies at the hospital.thirlwall.public-inquiry.uk
I will look into the cases from 2010 to 2014 as soon as is possible, between all my clinic duties and without any of your help which hasn't been offered anyway.
Ooh Stephen!
bless him though, this was July 2016 and he must have been at the end of his tether and felt like he was banging his head against a brick wall. And for good reason. What an utter tit show the lot of them were.
I have the utmost respect for him. I wish he had just gone over the lot of them and straight to the police, as I’m sure he feels the same knowing what we all now. I do think he will get grilled for that but I think we will see him accept it.
I think so. Some trusts already have this in place. For example, in my trust, we have an external company called freedom to speak to up where there are three dedicated members of staff that deal with all issues raised within our trust. They aren’t employed by our trust, they’re employed by the external company but they only deal with our trusts issues (this can be anything from bullying to murdering nurses). I have no doubt that if they were available in CoCH in 2015, that SB and RJ would have raised their concerns with them much earlier, probably autumn 2015 from listening to the inquiry, and she would have been stopped earlier. I don’t know if these types of external support systems are mandatory in NHS trusts, but if they’re not they should be!I wonder if one of the Thirlwall reports no suggestions will be to have a specialised outside team which can investigate incidents. Doing it internally where office politics and personal opinions were clouding judgements just wasn't working. Staff needed to be able to voice concerns and think the unthinkable.
It's so irritating seeing how much they pandered to herThis is a goldmine of info.....definitely worth reading
INQ0003529 – Page 3 – 5 and 9 of letter from Sue Hodkinson to Letby, summarising meetings that took place between 10 January 2017 until 30 March 2017, dated 03/04/2017 | The Thirlwall Inquiry
Examining the events at the Countess of Chester Hospital and their implications following the trial, and subsequent convictions, of former neonatal nurse Lucy Letby of murder and attempted murder of babies at the hospital.thirlwall.public-inquiry.uk