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Apostate

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This odious little creep is at it again


Vine clearly knows better than a KC and his team of lawyers who had 2 years to prepare their case.

"What on earth were the #LucyLetby defence team doing during the trial?"

Maybe trying not to make things worse for Letby than they already were.
 
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ClaraPlum

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At last!! This is the kind headline and article we need to be seeing. I bet a lot of people with doubts don’t even know about baby E’s mum’s testimony as journalists never gave it much attention.

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I don’t remember hearing about the gown before, or the hand in the photo!!

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She totally did the hand thing on purpose. It was all a power game to her. I hate how she has tainted the reminders of the parents. I genuinely wouldn’t know what I would do in their situation. It makes me want to cry and I have no involvement in this case. Those poor families. They have been so brave and inspiring.
 
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Tofino

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Child D parents


Think we will see a pattern here for sure.


Months after Child D’s death, the witness said, a review concluded she should have been provided with antibiotics earlier but that this might not have changed the outcome for her daughter. A postmortem examination had attributed the newborn’s death to acute pneumonia.

Child D’s mother said she kept pushing for answers, including writing to the coroner to request a full inquest into her daughter’s death, because “it just didn’t match up”.

She said she felt “dismissed” and “very upset” after being fed “rubbish” by the hospital and its medical director, Ian Harvey.

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She added: “We had to piece the whole picture together pretty much during the trial. That’s when we were finding out information and that’s when things started to make sense.

“But to me if I wasn’t failed in the first place by the Countess in dozens of ways – and all against the protocol and guidelines they should have followed – my daughter wouldn’t have ended up in intensive care, I wouldn’t end up poorly and destroyed, and she wouldn’t end up in a place where someone is preying on babies.”


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Liz Hull’s report

 
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Futtrit

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As ever I am SO full of admiration for Dr Brearey and Dr Jayram. The absolute balls it took to relentlessly pursue this is staggering.
 
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tay65

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BBC link too

Truly sorry. Last year after Letby was found guilty, the one living in deepest France I'm not sure whether it's Chamber or Harvey when it was suggested to him that he might have to come back to answer questions was quoted as saying "if they find me", sounds really sorry.
 
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Aberscot

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I cant imagine how the parents must be feeling today, it’s only day 1 And already how many missed opportunities to stop her have came out.
I didn’t expect reporting to be this detailed, but bloody hell I feel as angry as I did reading the daily updates of the trial.
Guess we are all going to be hanging around this thread now for a few more months!
 
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MmmB777

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I can’t get my head around the parents being woke up at 6am to be told someone has been arrested for murdering their child, when the parents had no idea it was even that kind of investigation. I don’t know what the answer is because I know the 6am arrest is done for a reason and they can’t really give the parents a heads up. Maybe the parents should have been told they were investigating if there was any intentional harm. If your child was murdered in the street by a stranger then you would know about it before they arrested someone. I don’t know. I think whilst I know the case needed to be protected, the parents should have known more than they did.
I think a face to face with a liaison officer would have at least been a bit more courteous.


This is very troubling imo. I bet I know who had that blanket 😰

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Cack_Conroe

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I don't want to speak out of turn but during the trial there was a woman who spoke at length about how Lucy Letby had performed, what she said were a massive amount of unnecessary heel pricks on her baby. She felt that there was something not right with this. I can't remember where it was. I think it was on a private FB discussion group during the trial. This was a random woman who said her baby was treated by Letby
Correct, blue in these screenshots is the mother of a baby who she alleges that Letby gave many unnecessary heel pricks to. (Red is a former neonatal nurse IIRC):

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Tofino

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Mr Harvey to the consultants - “all emails cease”

Mr Harvey to the inquiry - I did not intend to stop the discourse.

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Edited to add- just after this part, they say Dr Gibbs emails and gave the clinical picture for “2 patients”. With the implication being that picture meant they had to go to police/take it very seriously. Again I would have thought if this was a baby from the case they would mention them by letter. Seems to be these 2 babies again that raised direct concerns of harm that we’ve not heard about.
I loved how they just ignored Ian Harvey.

Mr Harvey replied: "Ravi – this is absolutely being treated with the same degree of urgency – it has already been discussed and action is being taken. All emails cease forthwith.”

Dr Gibbs continued the email chain.


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MmmB777

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but then they ignore that Letby told mum she had already called a registrar at 9pm when her own notes prove she hadn’t.

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Oooh… excellent point to raise from baby E’s mum

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Yes I love that she asked this and I think we will be hearing from LWH so it will be fascinating to see if yet again this is all fantasy in the warped mind of the Chincredible Sulk.
 
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oldjamfan

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Now I see why Letby and Management got on so well!!

I think when they give oral evidence they get cross examined by all the other KC’s don’t they?
I hope they are all fucking bricking it as well. I hope they don't get any sleep between now and when their sorry arses are dragged across the coals.
 
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Tofino

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Hopefully we hear a lot more detail like this that was absent from the first trial. It’s very similar to the sentiments expressed by all those unfortunate enough to work alongside evil
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Want to say that the coverage has been amazing so far but that will probably jinx it won’t it 😬
just going back to this as it’s just come up where I am on the streaming. It’s interesting ‘the grapevine’ was mentioned after baby C as that’s very quick given A, B (survived) and C were only in the space of a week. I doubt other hospitals would be going ‘have you heard about Chester’ in the time between A and C. Further adds to the suspicion of incidents before baby A.
 
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