Lucy Letby Case #72

[Haveyouanywool]

Dr A was granted anonymity because his children were doing A Levels and GCSEs, that he suffered anxiety for 4 years and he would struggle to give clear & accurate answers.

Irish Examiner view: Blanket anonymity given in Lucy Letby trial is matter of concern

Identification is a fundamental necessity of open justice

www.irishexaminer.com

And also (mainly) because he would be outed as a massive arsehole, which was no doubt the main reason for his anxiety.

 

[MmmB777]

Trying to find where Breary says she was there for every death but came across this

“This all became very exceptional and it took a step back to think about it. The nature of these collapses, the unexpected nature of them, the lack of response to resuscitation, the unusual rash noted on a number of occasions and each time the association with Nurse Letby.”

The lack of normal response to resuscitation is such an important factor too, one we don’t bring up as often and of course the weirdos never do. It’s so significant. And also of course the times that babies would not respond to resuscitation and be so close to death but then would recover enough to be hungry not long after. To have no pervasive condition that lead them to have 20 minute long cardiac arrests. None of that is medically explicable. Babies that were literally ready to go home that day, having no viable heartbeat for 6 whole minutes as soon as letby has been there. The idea that these incidents can be pure chance alongside the chance of baby N with awful blood and swelling in their throat, babies like baby I who fought so hard to survive and picked up and recovered just to be at deaths door every time Letby was near. Babies like baby E screaming and bleeding. The falsifying so that she distanced herself from the access she’d just had to a baby suddenly at deaths door. The poison. The car crash injuries to the same organ of two almost full term babies that would both collapse every time letby was alone with them. Who had incredible flashing skin rashes that so many other babies suffered suddenly at the same time as their instant collapses. To think that is all chance you would have to be an utter idiot.
I honestly think these people don’t even believe their own lies. They want some strange pathetic group to belong to. They want a cause for their empty little lives and they’ve picked fighting the case for one of the most evil killers in the world. Cunts.

 

[gigilouxx]

I hope she lives to 100 just rotting in her dutty cell all day, never doing anything fun, feeling any happiness just rotting

 

[DoseofReality]

Heartbreaking that babies H, J and Q may never get justice and their parents experience some of the closure the others have.

Also have to think of all the poor parents who may have only been contacted recently. Over 4000 sets of medical notes they have to sift through.

 

[tay65]

BM says Caroline Oakley doesn't remember that night but Letby is expected to. Well Caroline Oakley didn't try to murder a baby and it was just another nightshift for her 8 years ago, maybe that's why Myers.

 

[MmmB777]

BM says Caroline Oakley doesn't remember that night but Letby is expected to. Well Caroline Oakley didn't try to murder a baby and it was just another nightshift for her 8 years ago, maybe that's why Myers.

I’d bet Caroline Oakley wasn’t up in the middle of the night getting kicks from stalking baby k’s parents two years later either.

 

[Danica Catrick]

Reading the live reporting this morning, I'm reminded how often she says something along the lines of "that's not the way it's done at Liverpool Women's Hospital" - YOU DID ONE PLACEMENT THERE YOU STUPID COW, YOU'RE NOT AN EXPERT ON THEIR PROCEDURES

She's so annoying!

 

[MmmB777]

Omg the plot thickens

 

[Tofino]

Oh the member of the public “KR” did eventually provide contact details. And provided an image of the juror concerned “BC”.

judge Goss agreed defence could take statement from KR which they did. BC was then questioned by the judge in his chambers in presence of legal teams.

 

[Tofino]

They walk among us

E: None of the above. Lucy will die in jail.

Also, just to humour them, why would option C even be an option? If she is ever released from jail it would be nothing to do with a jury but appeal judges. Her only way out is some sort of brand new evidence that exonerates her. And that won’t happen anyway! Stupid idiots.

 

[Baabaablacksheep320]

And she’s gone!!
Will we get an updated mugshot now she’s been convicted of another crime?

 

[MmmB777]

HOW can she not show a reaction?!

She’s just shaken her head at the judge. Ahahaha pathetic petulant little nobody.
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Ahaha now she’s said I’m innocent. Nah you’re evil, you did this. Just like you said hun.

 

[Tofino]

Hi

Just thought I’d better check in today for Chris

I’m busy doing some DIY in my bathroom so can’t post as much. Still think Letby is a serial killer of tiny, defenceless babies and still not shaking about the latest conspiracy articles. Still thrilled she is the record holder for collecting the most WLOs.

have a shit good day!
Bye!

 

[MmmB777]

When you order Stanley Tucci off of Wish

 

[MmmB777]

It all sounds very familiar doesn’t it? Has this woman spoken out before, I seem to remember the card and the godmother bit (echoes of Bev poopcakes Allitt). I just can’t imagine the horror of working on a unit where your patients keep collapsing unexpectedly and inexplicably. Just waiting for the next disaster to strike and then finding out you weren’t a rubbish nurse on a crap team, there was somebody there doing it deliberately. I’d be unsurprised if other staff members had PTSD symptoms.

Yes reading it fully now and this lady has definitely spoken before. I think the new information is possibly that it was so soon after her attempts on baby K. I think it’s very obvious she hurt this baby. unexplained blood in the nappy too. I can’t even begin to think about what cruelty she inflicted. Vile. I don’t think it’s the first time there was unexplained blood in a nappy either, I remember it really upsetting Docmum I truly think she was up to things like this all the time. And smaller acts of cruelty like messing with feeds, skipping them maybe, failing to administer medicines or other forms of poisoning.

 

[Tofino]

Oh god it’s going to be a long evening picking this apart so anything Myers said to question the witnesses, was not evidence. Not supported by evidence. I’m sure we discussed this at the time! That he can’t just say some of the things he did and not back it up.

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Annnnnnnny one have an overview on the 58 pages

That would be wonderful

Patience please, me and mmmbop are on it

(secretly hoping the Mail are as prepared as they usually are on this and there will be another 25 articles out in the next half an hour )

 

[Pavement1979]

I said this on Mumsnet too because that shitehole is rife with LL defenders and even though I hate the place I had to say something. There were tens and tens of people who weren't emotionally attached to the case assessing in a much more objective, forensic way than the journalists who have questioned the conviction - several staff at CCH, several police teams (each child had their own team investigating each case remember) the CPS team, all the players in the prosecution legal team, KC's, expert witnesses, several judges, and two lots of jurors all approached this with zero skin in the game and all landed at the same point. LL is responsible. To think you know more than people who between them will have had millions of pounds worth of education, training and employment experience because you read a cherry picked article is so arrogant and dumb you deserve vitriol.

 

[ClaraPlum]

So glad for Baby K’s family and for Dr Jayaram’s reputation.

 

[sebanna]

Heartbreaking that babies H, J and Q may never get justice and their parents experience some of the closure the others have.

Also have to think of all the poor parents who may have only been contacted recently. Over 4000 sets of medical notes they have to sift through.

I do feel story isn't quite over. I think there will be a third trial or an inquiry where she will be found guilty of harming more babies.

Baby Q, in particular,should have never happened, Lucy had pushed her luck to the absolute limit with the triplets.

I think when Operation Hummingbird is complete, the cases can be linked better and babies H, J and Q will get justice

 

[Tofino]

Spoiler: Dr N offers lift home

(Following the needle prick incident)

She was later offered a lift home by a concerned doctor who friends had previously teased her about flirting with him.

Facebook message exchanges between the pair were read out on Monday, March 20 at Manchester Crown Court, in the 21st week of the trial before a jury.

The doctor, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, asked Letby: “Have you been seen yet?”
Letby replied: “Yes just got back. I made a fool of myself whilst there.”

The doctor, who was also involved in the resuscitation efforts, said: “I asked them to be quick for you. How did you make a fool of yourself?”

Letby responded: “They said someone had asked for me to been seen asap and they knew what had happened today.

“Everyone talking about it whilst I was there. I fainted.”

The doctor asked: “Oh are you OK now?”

Letby replied: “Bit shaky but OK. Writing my notes. They were reluctant to let me go as on my own.”

The doctor said: “You could have bleeped me. I’m almost a responsible adult!

“Do you need a lift home?”

After she was dropped off by the doctor at her home address, Letby messaged him: “Thank you for the lift and for talking to A&E.”
The doctor said: “I can’t have you walking back in the dark after a rubbish day, mini needlestick and an A&E faint.”

He later asked: “What are u doing? I can’t concentrate on anything.”

Letby said: “Wanting to (cry emoji).”

The doctor said: “Did in car. Must have looked a right mess when I got in.”

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Spoiler: Cockington & Chocolate

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Spoiler: BNE slam dunk social timeline

this one below is sky reporting as it mentions he was married

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When you know she’s talking about that goober, it’s hilarious

yes it definitely brings a new level of cringe doesn’t it

And I had to go back in the old thread to find where it was posted he was married.
And all these meet ups with him were after she was suspended. Having said that did he move to AH quite quickly? Looked like it was the same year (2016)