It's why I could never work in a NICU or paeds I would fall to bits. Uni allocated me a placement in a children's hospice and I asked to switch. Horrendous massive respect to those who can, when I've had patients pass it's usually at the end of a long protracted illness at a good age and usually it's a relief as they are free from pain and at peace.
To me the messages come across as people who don't like her, don't want to engage and are giving her the shortest answers out of politeness but to get her to stop. We all have people like that who don't get the memo. I don't see why there is such an issue of debating in this thread without having to agree with eachother and shut the convo down. Surely it's better to agree we have different opinions and discuss them, bouncing things back and forward than this constant need to silence any discussion? I don't get it.If her messaging her colleagues was so unusual then why not after or during the 1st message ask her to not bring it up? Shall we just agree to disagree and I'll send an e-hug you way?
Trivial but that means she's either a Sagittarius or a Capricorn. If she's a Sag, I may be swayed on my opinion. (Jokes)
I can answer this as I feel the same about the note.
What number does it stop being a coincidence? We have 22 allegations here, the majority of which we are expecting to show she was on her own with them minutes before they unexpectedly collapsed. (Appreciate we’ve not heard all the evidence yet but that is what prosecution are suggesting).
Some of the jokes I've heard would not be acceptable to the general public they call it gallows humour. It's definitely a coping mechanism an unhealthy one sometimes.
Exactly, I actually think she is guilty but I still question things because she may not be?
Regardless of if she is guilty or not, shit like this does show what an utterly bizarre woman she is. Noone in their right mind would make a comment like that. Maybe she was trying to be kind but clearly did not have the good sense to see how deeply upsetting that would be.
Not defending her in the slightest bjt context here is everything. We’ve already began to wonder if she may be a bit socially awkward. It could be that she was trying to offer the mum a piece of information, a memory or something. I find it hard to believe she walked in smiling and said oh she’s dead but she loved a bath. It could be that the mother was expressing upset about things she won’t get to know about her child, things she won’t get to see or experience. The prosecution is obviously spinning things a certain way so whilst yes it may have happened exactly as they said, without more context it means nothing. The smile could have been a reassuring smile etc… I dunno that’s where my head went anyway
i was given wrong medication by a nurse who was either drunk or had been drinking when I was in an nhs neurological rehabilitation unit. People put nurses and drs on pedastals but I’ve seen firsthand that they are all still human and capable of monumentally fucking up
I thought that too. If I've had a tough shift, sometimes it is difficult going back and seeing the parents again. Bereavement care can be hard and if you are someone who overthinks every interaction it can become draining very quickly. Constantly thinking about what to say, how to phrase it and whether or not it is appropriate. I think this thread alone highlights how different everyone is and there is no 'one fits all' in terms of bereavement care. The training I have received focuses heavily on communication and compassion. I'd personally always enter the room with a smile, not a beaming, teethy grin, but a warm smile as opposed to being completely expressionless. I can understand her texts to her colleague and the apprehension over seeing the parents of baby A the next day. I'm a worrier and have felt the same on a few different occasions, sat at home before a shift ruminating. However, once I've got into work, I've felt better about it and got on with my shift. Which again, is why I don't find it that strange that she spoke to a colleague about not wanting to care for baby A's sibling, but then doing so once on shift.
Because it's embarrassing. Makes you look like a weirdo. Likelihood is she was being nosy. Ethically very dodgy but doesn't equate to murder.
My interpretation would be that sometimes an incident happens and someone behave a bit odd or makes you uncomfortable and you might notice it in the moment and then it passes you by. But then if later someone informs you of something terrible or bizarre about that person you suddenly recollect the uncomfortable moment and are like “oh yeah I remember when she/he did this”… and it suddenly “fits” with what you’re being told. Again perfectly human to do. Mother would she’s been asked by police about what happened, perhaps they even probed about LLs behaviour around the incident and she remembered her discomfort.
I agree, I do think she is peculiar/weird/odd.
I could understand that theory if the cause of death for all of the babies were something that could be explained as a natural occurrence. But so many of the babies died from external interference. Therefore if LL didn’t do it, someone else did.
I had the opposite experience when I had my first baby after a traumatic labour and birth. The older midwives were shocking and made me feel like a stupid little girl who had no clue about my own baby. It really messed up my head which was all over the place at the time and I would call my OH up crying my eyes out to come take me home. I ended up really depressed. The younger midwives were lovely and considerate throughout our stay in hospital.