Thank you. From what I’ve heard and read so far, they’re harrowing. They’d make you weep.The impact statements are here in full for anyone who wants to read them:
Read devastating accounts of Letby victims’ families after she refused to hear them
Warning; distressing content: Parents of babies whom Lucy Letby murdered or attempted to kill spoke of their grief in emotional victim impact statements at her sentencing hearingwww.independent.co.uk
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She used a secret code in her diary to record the murders
Lucy Letby used a secret code to record her murders in a diary
Detective Inspector Rob Woods said Britain's most prolific child killer was a 'copious writer of notes', with dozens of Post-it notes and scraps of paper found at her home.www.dailymail.co.uk
Isn’t she just writing LD here to indicate a long day shift
unless I’m missing something here.Edited to say I’ve just read others thoughts on this.
The last addendum specifies "Other items" for women prisoners & juveniles. All of which are authorised at the discretion of the individual prison governor. Bras are permitted. Maximum of 2. Sports bra type only, for obvious reasons as underwires could easily be made into weapons, lock picks etc. Other items not listed in this document are sanitary pads/tampons. Again authorised & stocked in women's prisons.
Don’t you have to have someone’s prisoner number in the uk to write to em?
The other heartbreaking thing that I really felt from the statements read on the podcast was the amount of guilt some of the parents are living with.
‘What if I hadn’t gone to bed that night, he might still be here’
‘I couldn’t protect him’
‘I was able to save Child F but couldn’t save Child E because I followed the instructions to leave him with Lucy.’
It’s clearly not their fault at all but I think many of us with kids know what ‘mum guilt’ feels like so I understand why they feel that way even though it’s misplaced. It’s just so heartbreaking and an added layer of torture for them.
‘What if I hadn’t gone to bed that night, he might still be here’
‘I couldn’t protect him’
‘I was able to save Child F but couldn’t save Child E because I followed the instructions to leave him with Lucy.’
It’s clearly not their fault at all but I think many of us with kids know what ‘mum guilt’ feels like so I understand why they feel that way even though it’s misplaced. It’s just so heartbreaking and an added layer of torture for them.
Sorry if this has been talked about before but I notice there doesn’t appear to be any old boyfriends coming out of the woodwork. She was 27-28 when she was arrested? I know she was texting the doctor but besides that, surely there would be someone from before that ? So strange.
this is what Lucy Letby should have been made to do! Dragged up to the court room and made to face the families she destroyed.
That got me tooThe other heartbreaking thing that I really felt from the statements read on the podcast was the amount of guilt some of the parents are living with.
‘What if I hadn’t gone to bed that night, he might still be here’
‘I couldn’t protect him’
‘I was able to save Child F but couldn’t save Child E because I followed the instructions to leave him with Lucy.’
It’s clearly not their fault at all but I think many of us with kids know what ‘mum guilt’ feels like so I understand why they feel that way even though it’s misplaced. It’s just so heartbreaking and an added layer of torture for them.
Part of grieving any loss, in my experience, personally, with both my parents and in my job, there's always an element of guilt and " what ifs",which is so hard to deal with...but this is another level, that I cannot begin to even imagine how they feel...I just can't, and as for the parents who haven't yet, and may never see justice for their babies, that's another story
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I read that a lot of SKs keep diaries.
I wonder if it’s because they can’t actually communicate their thoughts and actions to anyone and so need some kind of release
It’s not like they can say ‘oh lovely cup of tea and btw I killed a baby yesterday, fancy a scone’.
I even write my things in one colour and my kids’ in another
*backs out of the thread quickly and quietly in her kitten heels and matalan socks*
However, wont she also get an awful lot of hate mail as well? I doubt she would have unrestrained access to any of it to start with! I think there are an awful lot of people who are understandably very angry with her!
And I am also wondering about the 'nice' label, and wondering if it was more about her being so bland, and quiet, her colleagues didnt have anything else to say about her? She wasnt friendly, bubbly, chatty or funny, she was 'nice'!!
Her house and her life doesn't seem to show any personality, or obvious interests or hobbies, the photos of her home, look like a holiday rental, with no personality at all, which surely must be weird for a girl in her 20s or early 30s?
She has to have an odd personality hidden somewhere inside. If I had been caring for a baby that died, I would be devastated for the baby and the family, and although I might try and keep a professional demeanour in front of them, I would be crying for them at home, and that sadness and worry that I had done something wrong would affect me for years. LL is a really odd one, I cant imagine very many people having had that many babies dying in front of them, would feel so detached and guilt free.
Even if there was, they might not want to go public. If I had an ex convicted of murder as high profile as this there is no way I would want to be publicly known or associated with them!
If they scheduled her hearing immediately it would mean rearranging all other scheduled hearings to accommodate her case. This would be grossly unfair to everyone else waiting for the hearing as it may well mean that any witnesses they have who may have evidence to exonerate them will be able to appear if dates are rescheduled. I think madam has had quite enough medical authorities ignoring others to prioritise her case anyway.
Oh I keep several. I have appointments. Mind stuff. Health stuff. And real soul stuff. Plus one for really random thoughts. LoL I find journalling very cathartic.View attachment 2401063
I even write my things in one colour and my kids’ in another
*backs out of the thread quickly and quietly in her kitten heels and matalan socks*
A little bit egotistical if you purchased this for yourself hahahaha
why does it need a hearing? And I don’t mean ‘because it’s process’. She’s in prison on 14 WLOs having been convicted of multiple baby murders. What is there to say or discuss in her case? The policy should be - immediate strike off. Send her a letter. I don’t think dealing with something like this immediately needs to mean it impacts other hearings.
I keep one for appointments. That’s it. Plus it’s plain black, not a saddo ‘boofie’ one or whatever from the 1990s…
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