Lucy Letby Case #67

[slingo16]

8 times longer
And @slingo16 as if you’re referring to me as a bully on the regular when a) we’re BFFs now and b) I’ve so far resisted ever saying
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If thats how you feel it’s fine SAY IT WITH YOUR CHEST

 

[IGiveUp22]

Ya know the other bit of the scapegoat theory that makes 0 sense (not that any of it does but ya know) she was THE ONLY NURSE present at ALL these incidents/deaths and she didn’t raise one concern to anyone higher - nada. You can’t think she was being used as a scapegoat for a failing hospital when she didn’t even raise any concerns about said failings herself?? Especially when the only concerns that were being raised WERE ABOUT HER… make it make sense

Like it’s come out now it’s in black and white that the higher management covered up consultants concerns about her…how can you stick with a scapegoat theory

 

[MmmB777]

If thats how you feel it’s fine SAY IT WITH YOUR CHEST

 

[milkman]

Ya know the other bit of the scapegoat theory that makes 0 sense (not that any of it does but ya know) she was THE ONLY NURSE present at ALL these incidents/deaths and she didn’t raise one concern to anyone higher - nada. You can’t think she was being used as a scapegoat for a failing hospital when she didn’t even raise any concerns about said failings herself?? Especially when the only concerns that were being raised WERE ABOUT HER… make it make sense

Like it’s come out now it’s in black and white that the higher management covered up consultants concerns about her…how can you stick with a scapegoat theory

Literally!!!!

No other theory genuinely makes sense other than her being a narcissistic serial killer. Even the doctor one for attention doesn't fully make sense as the entire motive, it may have been a reason down the line why she did it but not the full reason

 

[Haveyouanywool]

I don't think that's particularly odd either. The rest of the house wasn't updated, so she'd hardly have started the decorating by doing the spare room. Newish house (as in to her), not much spare cash. It probably just wasn't a priority.

I suppose she could have sat in there with her trophies, thinking about her crimes but the former is probably more likely.

Murder babies?….Decorate the house?
Murder babies?…Decorate the house?
Murder babies?…Decorat…
Oh duck it, I’ll just murder babies.

 

[jackolantern]

This case has genuinely solidified my belief that there shouldn’t be a death penalty.
Imagine knowing that at 33, with probably 50 more years of life left, you’re never ever going to be able to make a life decision…

Never going to be able to pop to the shops, or bake some biscuits. Never going to be able to go on holiday. Never going to see your friends weddings or go to your parents funerals. The list goes on.

That’s on top of the terror she will constantly feel with people wanting to get at her because of her crimes.

To me that’s a far better punishment then just killing someone. Why should they get an easy out? I think the mental anguish that you’re going to have to live that life for the majority of your life would be far worse then knowing you’re going to get a lethal injection. And good.

She’ll never hear the birds sing without a chorus of background noise
She’ll never feel her feet in the sand or the sea
She’ll never see a rainbow or walk through a forest
She’ll never have a holiday or look forward to an event with friends and family
She’ll never choose and cook a delicious meal to relax with a spouse while cuddling watching a movie
She’ll never have her own family
She’ll never have a bubble bath with candles
She’ll never choose her own music and sing to her hearts content
She’ll never bake a cake and sit and decorate it just because
She’ll never have a picnic in the sun with her friends and a good book

I could go on forever. But the most important thing is -

She’ll not live a day of her life without serious mental anguish and suffering knowing all this. That’s a far better punishment than death ever could be.

 

[stardust21]

She’ll never hear the birds sing without a chorus of background noise
She’ll never feel her feet in the sand or the sea
She’ll never see a rainbow or walk through a forest
She’ll never have a holiday or look forward to an event with friends and family
She’ll never choose and cook a delicious meal to relax with a spouse while cuddling watching a movie
She’ll never have her own family
She’ll never have a bubble bath with candles
She’ll never choose her own music and sing to her hearts content
She’ll never bake a cake and sit and decorate it just because
She’ll never have a picnic in the sun with her friends and a good book

I could go on forever. But the most important thing is -

She’ll not live a day of her life without serious mental anguish and suffering knowing all this. That’s a far better punishment than death ever could be.

Quite.

I have never given it much thought before this week, but really, I think that a death sentence over a whole life imprisonment order is actually the soft option.

I can see why everyone put on one is instantly put on suicide watch.

I’ve seen people in prisons saying that people who WLO can’t even really make friends with other in mates because of the difference that no option for release makes.

I think it’s a very cruel punishment, that is totally fitting on the likes of LL and Wayne Cousins.

 

[Tofino]

Dr Stephen Brearey, the consultant paediatrician who first raised the alarm about Letby, added to the calls for a statutory inquiry on Tuesday.

He called for the inquiry to examine the role of the General Medical Council (GMC) and said the regulator had “failed doctors and patients” by not conducting a proper investigation into Harvey.

Brearey and three of his consultant paediatrician colleagues made a formal misconduct complaint to the GMC about Harvey in 2018.


It alleged that Harvey failed to act on concerns about Letby despite the rising number of baby deaths and misled the public when he said, in February 2017, that there was “no single cause or factor identified to explain the increase in mortality numbers”.

Two reviews at this time had called for further forensic investigations into several unexplained deaths, in relation to which Letby was later found guilty of murder.

Brearey said the GMC “hadn’t bothered” to examine the evidence or speak to the three other consultants who submitted the complaint before it closed the investigation.

Harvey told the regulator he would “vigorously” defend himself but did not answer the allegations specifically, according to a copy of the complaint seen by the Guardian. The GMC cleared him with no case to answer in May 2022.

The former orthopaedic surgeon gave up his licence to practise when he retired to France in 2018 and in 2020 he gave up his registration with the GMC.

On the GMC investigation, Harvey said on Tuesday: “Given the circumstances, I feel that there can be no doubt that the GMC conducted a thorough investigation. On 3 May 2022, the GMC informed me that they had concluded their investigation and that the case was closed with no further action.”

Dr Ravi Jayaram, a senior paediatrician at the Countess of Chester hospital, said in an email to a GMC investigating officer on 6 May 2022 that it was “patently obvious that there has been no effort at all on the part of the GMC” to examine the evidence.

He added: “To conclude there is ‘no evidence when in reality there has been little if any attempt to look for evidence inspires very little confidence in the ability of the GMC to be able to fulfil its core duty to protect patients.”



From The Guardian.

Did we know that Dr B made a complaint to GMC re Harvey?

It’s certainly the first time I’m hearing of it but there are loads of articles since Friday I’ve not had chance to read.

There are more and more reasons why this needs to be a statutory inquiry.
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Ian Harvey is one piece of scum.

Saw this article on Reddit

Revealed: NHS bosses of the Countess of Chester Hospital

The bosses at a hospital where killer nurse Lucy Letby was free to murder and attack newborn babies can today be revealed.

www.dailymail.co.uk

A source told the Mail: 'Harvey retired very quickly in 2018. After Letby's arrest he cancelled his General Medical Council subscription and went to the South of France.'

Another former employee added: 'Around the time he retired, I asked Harvey whether he thought there could be a public inquiry into what had happened and his words were, "They would have to find me first", which bothered me.

This alone should prove that the inquiry should be statutory. He should be dragged back from France to answer these questions.

Yes you are right. They are all already showing they are not prepared to take any responsibility so how can we trust them to co-operate with an inquiry that is voluntary participation.

 

[SkiesOfBlue]

Nursed for 30 years from 1988
Even as a student nurse there were some very strange characters attracted to Nursing.

My Mum is a nurse and trained in London during the 1970s. As did all of my aunts and grand-aunts. They're training was like something akin to the army and at that time there were no nursing assistants per se, these hardworking nurses did everything, they're medical training was second to none and they worked hard.

What struck me about LL (besides from being a thunderous, cruel murderous witch) was the amount of time she spent on her phone while supposed to be looking after HIGHLY DEPENDENT babies. It was brought up time and again at trial and gave examples of she was claiming to feed babies (a two-handed job) while sending incessant Whatsapp messages throughout her shift. I'm genuinely curious as to whether this is a thing? I'm not being anti-nurse here, for the most part they are kind and their decision to pursue a nursing career is vocational, but is this what nursing care is like these days? I'm curious because for my Mum's generation you'd have been kicked out for not being fully engaged throughout your shift.

 

[Aberscot]

Sky news now saying it’s looking like the government will change mind and make enquiry statuary, health secretary going to meet the parents to discuss. Fingers crossed

 

[MmmB777]

Another podcast out!

 

[bluefootedbooby]

I heard she was dying her hair ginger before hand

Not the ginger slander again

 

[jackolantern]

Quite.

I have never given it much thought before this week, but really, I think that a death sentence over a whole life imprisonment order is actually the soft option.

I can see why everyone put on one is instantly put on suicide watch.

I’ve seen people in prisons saying that people who WLO can’t even really make friends with other in mates because of the difference that no option for release makes.

I think it’s a very cruel punishment, that is totally fitting on the likes of LL and Wayne Cousins.

I know a lot of people think jail is still too kind for them if they get luxuries like tv, being able to decorate their sells, buy clothes or whatever. But honestly what bleeping difference does that make in the scheme of what’s facing her? It’s all just futile

 

[RainyVee]

The discipline in nursing is no longer there, or not as much. How you behaved on shift & also represented the profession off-shift was taken seriously.
You just need to watch some of the Tiktokkers who are nurses, their behaviour, language & attitude is appalling, especially on a platform that is aimed at a young audience.

My Mum is a nurse and trained in London during the 1970s. As did all of my aunts and grand-aunts. They're training was like something akin to the army and at that time there were no nursing assistants per se, these hardworking nurses did everything, they're medical training was second to none and they worked hard.

What struck me about LL (besides from being a thunderous, cruel murderous witch) was the amount of time she spent on her phone while supposed to be looking after HIGHLY DEPENDENT babies. It was brought up time and again at trial and gave examples of she was claiming to feed babies (a two-handed job) while sending incessant Whatsapp messages throughout her shift. I'm genuinely curious as to whether this is a thing? I'm not being anti-nurse here, for the most part they are kind and their decision to pursue a nursing career is vocational, but is this what nursing care is like these days? I'm curious because for my Mum's generation you'd have been kicked out for not being fully engaged throughout your shift.

 

[Ensay]

I know a lot of people think jail is still too kind for them if they get luxuries like tv, being able to decorate their sells, buy clothes or whatever. But honestly what bleeping difference does that make in the scheme of what’s facing her? It’s all just futile

Agreed, the Daily Mail ran their classic article about how LL was going to be in some "cushty" jail (they love that word), but I was thinking - wow, she gets pink walls, a bed and a shop... so what? She's still locked up for the rest of her life with no liberties or freedom.

 

[kabukigirl]

Lucy Letby: who ran the hospital she worked at and where are they now?

NHS chiefs who ran Countess of Chester hospital where nurse murdered seven babies and attempted to kill six others

www.theguardian.com

Stephen Cross...he was director of legal services and corporate affairs.... is a director of Chester Masons.

Surprise surprise.

Now let’s find out if her dad was also a mason..

 

[Bread]

My first house was a 2-Up-2-Down which backed on to a cemetery. It was all I could afford as my first footstep on the housing ladder. I'm not saying this to deny LL any guilt, but just to say please don't assume that anyone who lives next to a cemetery is a murderer!

I used to live next to a cemetery and loved it. It was very peaceful (no tit).

 

[Milktray]

Agreed, the Daily Mail ran their classic article about how LL was going to be in some "cushty" jail (they love that word), but I was thinking - wow, she gets pink walls, a bed and a shop... so what? She's still locked up for the rest of her life with no liberties or freedom.

Yeah, these are not luxuries for someone serving a WLO.
A TV would taunt her about the outside world and what she's missing. A shop to buy clothes that no one's gonna see her in.
Meaningful gossip, real life emotion, excitement, adventure etc...that's what's been taken away.
Nothing matters. There's nothing if you can't have freedom.

 

[Blockedbyadmin]

Now let’s find out if her dad was also a mason..

Can you even imagine how crazy that would all transpire to be!!!! I really hope the managers get some sort of sentence from being dragged to court. Horrendous

 

[InTheDollsHouse]

Lucy Letby: who ran the hospital she worked at and where are they now?

NHS chiefs who ran Countess of Chester hospital where nurse murdered seven babies and attempted to kill six others

www.theguardian.com

Stephen Cross...he was director of legal services and corporate affairs.... is a director of Chester Masons.

Surprise surprise.

He’d clearly missed the point that babies were collapsing and dying for unexplained and unexpected reasons meaning it likely was a crime scene