Thank you for replying, apologies if this is previously well discussed. But in trying to look for a motive, could there be some deep seated anger towards twins whose siblings survived until birth?
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I would assume the police and prosecution explored motives as much as possible. Nothing has been shared, even as part of the trial, so we have to assume there isn’t any family history such as her having a non-surviving twin or I’m sure that would have been key for the prosecution.
I watched that YouTube doc by the Cheshire police tonight and one thing I noticed was that they said when they went again on the third time to arrest lucifer that the father answered the door and the mother was distraught and crying inside. Was she at their house and they were all up at 6am? Or were they staying at her house? I did find that weird to have her parents there so early. It’s like she was a child in an adults body.
She was at their house.
She moved back to her parent's house some time after the first arrest. So the first arrest was in Chester (after she'd returned from her thrice annual trip away with her parents) and her father was staying the night (this is the widely shared video footage). She was then arrested twice subsequently, as far as I know in 2018 and 2019 but am open to correction.
Edit: first arrest 2018, second 2019, final arrest 2020
Further edit: If you look at the end of Hummingbird Video it lists her address as 'Arran Avenue, Hereford' which is where her parents lived/where she grew up
Her house was sold in December 2019
Yes thanks I knew the years and about the arrest video I just wondered why the parents were with her at 6am and why they were all up so early.
I'm so relieved for the families of the poor defenseless babies that got guilty verdicts.
And I'm so sorry to the families who didn't get the justice they deserved. For me there's no justice though is there?! That vermin is still breathing and will still have a right to life, education, food, books, friendship's etc while the poor babies were viciously robbed of all those things, their families will never live another carefree day.
Some of the characteristics of LL/how she evolved into a child serial killer that have stood out to me;
*a spoiled rotten only child, (not saying all only children are spoiled)
*Personality cold, emotionally empty, no empathy, only cried during trial when showed pics of her bedroom etc
*Raised by quite mature parents with old fashioned values, sheltered and isolated as a child
*Smothered as she says by overbearing parents and lacking in age appropriate developmental milestones during pre teen and teen years
*Spent a lot of time on her own as a child with unusual interests
*Constantly put on pedestal, told she was mega intelligent, more special than others.
*Parents never really tried to understand the real lucy because they were blindsided by what they wanted as a perfect daughter
*Any lying or bad behavior no matter how big or small was met with complete denial by her parents
*Total loner/hermit with only associates for work nights out, salsa class etc and no real best friends (never shows her true self)
*Hyperviligant and calculated while around others for eg always agree with them and tell them what they want to hear from her by not giving an opinion until she gages the general consensus from peers first, manipulative.
*Subtle Narcissistic behaviors- believing she was more capable more educated more confident at caring for sick babies, always requesting to be allocated into nursery 1 when most normal people would be trying to avoid the most complex care needs babies as it is stressful and extremely high pressure - and who wants to do that every single day!!
*Controlling
*Caused these injuries to babies for the 'buzz' of the resuscitation and for attention from colleagues during and afterwards
*Very isolated outside work
*No personality to form meaningful loving relationships with partners
*No normal nurse no matter how much they love their job takes up that many extra shifts no matter how desperate NHS is
*This was a major red flag - she never wanted to be out of work
Sorry for long post but felt good to type that all out
Hope she gets tortured in jail
And I'm so sorry to the families who didn't get the justice they deserved. For me there's no justice though is there?! That vermin is still breathing and will still have a right to life, education, food, books, friendship's etc while the poor babies were viciously robbed of all those things, their families will never live another carefree day.
Some of the characteristics of LL/how she evolved into a child serial killer that have stood out to me;
*a spoiled rotten only child, (not saying all only children are spoiled)
*Personality cold, emotionally empty, no empathy, only cried during trial when showed pics of her bedroom etc
*Raised by quite mature parents with old fashioned values, sheltered and isolated as a child
*Smothered as she says by overbearing parents and lacking in age appropriate developmental milestones during pre teen and teen years
*Spent a lot of time on her own as a child with unusual interests
*Constantly put on pedestal, told she was mega intelligent, more special than others.
*Parents never really tried to understand the real lucy because they were blindsided by what they wanted as a perfect daughter
*Any lying or bad behavior no matter how big or small was met with complete denial by her parents
*Total loner/hermit with only associates for work nights out, salsa class etc and no real best friends (never shows her true self)
*Hyperviligant and calculated while around others for eg always agree with them and tell them what they want to hear from her by not giving an opinion until she gages the general consensus from peers first, manipulative.
*Subtle Narcissistic behaviors- believing she was more capable more educated more confident at caring for sick babies, always requesting to be allocated into nursery 1 when most normal people would be trying to avoid the most complex care needs babies as it is stressful and extremely high pressure - and who wants to do that every single day!!
*Controlling
*Caused these injuries to babies for the 'buzz' of the resuscitation and for attention from colleagues during and afterwards
*Very isolated outside work
*No personality to form meaningful loving relationships with partners
*No normal nurse no matter how much they love their job takes up that many extra shifts no matter how desperate NHS is
*This was a major red flag - she never wanted to be out of work
Sorry for long post but felt good to type that all out
Hope she gets tortured in jail
I have been reading these threads as they have been going on but I have not posted until now. Had to take a few breaks too because all this is just too heartbreaking 
Firstly, I can not understand what went through Lucy's head when she was killing those babies. Tiny, helpless babies who couldn't fight back. She is an evil, vile, monster. You just can't put it into words how someone could do such a thing. I feel very sad for those babies and my heart goes out to the parents. Rest In Peace, little ones, this should never have happened to you 
Firstly, I can not understand what went through Lucy's head when she was killing those babies. Tiny, helpless babies who couldn't fight back. She is an evil, vile, monster. You just can't put it into words how someone could do such a thing. I feel very sad for those babies and my heart goes out to the parents. Rest In Peace, little ones, this should never have happened to you #lucysarmy
These people walk among us…
These people walk among us…
If the staff involved in the cover up by management decide to retire in the meantime can they still be forced to attend any inquiries?
Yep. If the inquiry is statutory.
Only if it’s a statutory inquiry, which at the moment it isn’t but there is a lot of pressure on the government to make it statutory.
They lived in the same house which would explain why they were together. I'm sure unexpected knocking from the police at 6am would wake most people up.
I don’t think they were necessarily all up before 6am. But the police arrival would have made them get up if they were still in bed. She was on bail and had been arrested twice before so I imagine when they heard the knock they all knew who it would be instantly.
I find it interesting the police travelled from Cheshire (at 3am!) to do the arrest and take her back. I guess I would have assumed the local police do the arrest and then she is transported. Clearly not.
Maybe they could arrange a football match against the prison guards.
And she can escape when the crowd invades the pitch at the end.
I'm a few pages behind, but I agree that whatever the conditions are actually like in prison she's lost her freedom. She's no longer in control of her life, she's lost almost everything and she can make only basic decisions from now on.
For most of us this would be difficult to tolerate, but for a control freak it must be even worse. Sure, she'll try to manipulate those around her and may even succeed at times. But it'll be a very small, hollow victory for someone who struggles to follow rules and believes they are superior to everyone else.
Most mugshots make the subject look evil, to be fair.
I never suspected she was innocent; there was too much at stake to bring such a case against one person without a staggering amount of evidence.
I can't sleep. Those little ones are on my mind.
That would be a very long banner! Obviously she will be spending all day outside looking at the sky….
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