Lucy Letby Case #48

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I was guessing a mud room with an iron. Read up & now in the know! Sounds wuite handy!
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I can’t type for tit these days. This verdict waiting has me in a state!
I always thought a mudroom was more like an enclosed porch, somewhere to take your muddy shoes off before going onto the house proper. I might have made that up becuase of the name though
 
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Sorry off topic but there isn't a thread for this. I've been following the below TikTok murder trial very closely along with this trial. Do any of you clever people know what the highlighted means? There are 8 separate defendants in this case.

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He’s just saying he wants the jury to come to a unanimous decision and don’t think about a majority decision yet. So if they are not all on the same page they must deliberate until they all agree.

I guess it might be easy as a jury when you first start deliberations to just want the judge to accept a majority if 10 or 11 of you already agree, without discussing the concerns of the person who disagrees. But I think the judge saying they must come to a unanimous decision forces them to discuss it.
 
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Sorry off topic but there isn't a thread for this. I've been following the below TikTok murder trial very closely along with this trial. Do any of you clever people know what the highlighted means? There are 8 separate defendants in this case.

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He's telling them they need to reach unanimous verdicts, although it's worded a bit oddly

ETA beaten to it by @Tofino
 
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I suppose as well if you were on the jury and you were one or two that didn’t agree, you would really feel like you would want your say and discuss it. If judge accepts majority straight away then that person could be left feeling aggrieved. It’s different if after some time it becomes a bit of a deadlock. But it probably is the right decision to try really hard to get a unanimous decision even if it’s only one person who doesn’t agree initially.
 
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I’m getting ready for pre-drinks and then a night of clubbing. Who wants to join me! (Knowing you lot you’ll need some wheelchairs being the tender ole age you are and walking sticks 🤪)!! Before anyone asks, yes I am going to shamelessly spread apart my a cheeks in full glory in the middle of the dance floor a few vodkas in🥂
Huw would’ve guessed!



Hope everyone has a peachtastic Friday night 🍑
despite living a 2 minute stumble from probably the most well known, chavviest ITV2-famous ‘club’ in the country, I am working my way through another Christmas film in the Amazon haul of terrible film collections.. have a tequila and a cheeky snog for me 😘
 
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Yes I was thinking this. It could easily be one Facebook-style numpty who just won't agree with the others. They can't return a verdict that's not unanimous so if one person holds out they could just be at stalemate for even another week or more depending on how long the judge lets it go, or if they contact the judge and say 'one guys being a fool'.

The other thing is that they could easily be unanimous by now on enough charges that she's already going to jail forever, but just can't agree on some of the trickier cases as they can't return till they've got all verdicts.
I think they are likely to have reached that stage or very close. Agreement on some charges but will take a while longer on some of the others. I can even see unanimous on some charges and a majority on others. Be really interesting to see how it is handled by the judge, wonder if he will ask if they have agreement on any of the charges and then say he will accept majority on the rest, and whether we will ever know which were unanimous and which were majority. There may even be some hung charges but wouldn’t make the whole thing hung.
 
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Sorry off topic but there isn't a thread for this. I've been following the below TikTok murder trial very closely along with this trial. Do any of you clever people know what the highlighted means? There are 8 separate defendants in this case.

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Basically that he wont accept a majority verdict for now, only a verdict where they all agree. It is the usual starting point that they tend to relax on if deliberations have gone in too long.
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Someone's been told off...
Tit!
 
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He's telling them they need to reach unanimous verdicts, although it's worded a bit oddly

ETA beaten to it by @Tofino
Thank you so much all you clever people for explaining this in much clearer terms!! I was so confused but now I'll sleep better tonight 😂 this trials now on a break for 2 weeks, hoping for a verdict on LL in that time...
 
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