Lucy Letby Case #43

[Ghostranch]

Hello from another newbie! I've been following along for months and am glad I can now comment. I'm in a couple of Facebook groups but only comment there when I really can't restrain myself. It particularly annoys me when people try to minimise, normalise and excuse the amount of confidential paperwork LL took home and stored. I just find the FB groups insane.

I'll admit I initially thought she couldn't possibly have done what she is accused of as it is too horrific and I did think she was being made a scapegoat, but my mind really changed after the pathologist evidence for baby A (I think) which described the "globules" inside the veins of brain and lung tissue. Then the insulin cases are pretty damning.

I was absolutely shocked that the only defence witness other than LL was a plumber. Just wow! And I've been surprised at what BM has been allowed to say without experts to back it up.

Anyway, the end is in sight and I have faith in the jury. I am looking forward to justice being served.

 

[pharmamum]

New member here! Been following the case and threads since the very beginning. Based on everything i have read I’m convinced she is guilty. As a healthcare professional myself (pharmacist) and mum of 2 (3y and 8m) it makes me sick to the stomach that someone in her position would do this. I also have a PhD in research and it made me so angry when the defence barrister tried to say that there’s only one published study on air embolisms in babies- how does he not get that we wouldn’t do studies like this that would inflict pain on babies (of course there’s not going to be much literature)! I think they are lucky to even have that one bit of literature. I really hope the jury have some common sense and understand that these points he makes are ridiculous anyway rant over!
Have found all of your discussions really interesting (so many super clued in people on here) so it’s been good to follow along! Thanks for sharing!

 

[Tofino]

12:41pm

He said he could see, from his study, "empty structures" of fat or air in Child A - after testing, he ruled out the former.

wow I don’t think we heard this at the time (there was very little reporting when he gave evidence). It’s things like this that show just how much more the jury will have heard compared to any single one of us general public.

 

[AmeliaPevensie]

Imagine asking a question on a forum then complaining you're being 'bombarded by an army' when people respond (entirely politely) to you!

 

[oldjamfan]

Hello! Newly joined today. I became aware of Tattle via the Nikki Bulley case but I have since been following this one on here. Thanks so much for the insightful posts from those who have been to court, from those in both the medical and legal fields, and for the laugh-out-loud stuff at times (despite the dark nature of the thread). She is 100% guilty of every charge, and more-then-likely many more to come as well. I have cast my guilty vote.
I’m not ginger, Turkish Delight is one of the few chocolates I eat and I definitely do not own a Matalan card, but my username and avatar probably give my age away...

 

[CrushedIcePlease]

“A defence statement was confirmed by her on February 11, 2022. The judge says some of it differs from the police interviews.

He refers to his next legal direction, on the defence statement.

He says if the jury find "a material difference" between the two statements, the jury are entitled to ask themselves why.”

I like this. Get it in nice and early that she’s a liar.

 

[MmmB777]

gutted you’ve all only been able to join us now and not from the start. @Beigerac just the name

it’s been an excellent first day of summing up! Judge Goss sounds like he’s read the wiki and been refreshing Tattle in all Letby’s PTSD breaks.
Thoughts and prayers again to Dick The Dick, the green haired Nazi simp and Mr Neutral from facey B.
Hoping we have some Tattle Burgundy reports later

 

[Wellthisisinteresting]

When you breakdown the defence it’s a plumber confirming two leaks/ blockages on both days that no collapse happened and a barrister
(very clearly highly intelligent and well regarded)
That just disagrees with EXPERT witnesses, no medical examples, no experts to confirm what he is saying … says it was extra busy and LL her self confirmed that suboptimal care was not the cause of collapses deaths.

 

[mysteriousgirl69]

Pagecatching and wading my way through (Curly) Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory of talk but saw a reference to these texts again, which to me indicate a lot about her personality, even without tying it to the context of the murders. It's probably been mentioned before my time on here so sorry for any repetition.

It's telling how she responds to her colleague after what she perceives as criticism. You know full well after "It probably sounds odd" that she was expecting a coddling from her colleague, for her colleague to soothe her and say "oh no Lucy, that's a perfectly normal way of dealing with your emotions, I can't believe [nurse] won't let you back in 1".

So when her colleague doesn't act like a puppet in Letby's show, she lashes out, furious that someone doesn't agree with her. If she was at home, I could almost see her reading that text and blowing up, perhaps throwing a Live Laugh Love sign or a diamante photo frame around the room in fury.

But unfortunately she was with Baby C.

Even the 'poor me, I'll go it alone, I'll overcome it myself' mentality is such an attention-seeking behaviour. As people have previously mentioned, it would not surprise me if her parents indulged every single attention-seeking stunt and encouraged her (perhaps inadvertently) to think she is always right, it's others who are wrong.

The fact she has rabid defenders is beyond me. I live laugh LOATHE this woman.

As a side note, I found Tattle after reading the Archie Battersby thread on another forum who often linked to here. I've been lurking for some time but only recently made an account to post in the Harry and Meghan thread to answer some questions that my line of work could help with. And now I'm here, hungry as fuck because of you chocolate-noshing gannets.

 

[MmmB777]

Omg Judge Goss babe xoxo

 

[FarWin92]

Oh God love this Judge!!

Judge Goss is a tattler

He's probably been waiting for registration to open

 

[nigelwiththebrie]

Long time lurker, FTP. Glad I got the chance to cast my guilty vote today! I think the thing that really sealed the deal for me was the number of babies attacked on their due dates or key milestones. That simply cannot be a coincidence, and it lends enormous weight to the motive of wanting to revel in the parents' distress. Hoping the jury see it the same way!

 

[Ilovemusic]

Who opened the gates to all the newbies



Bloody big welcome to you all, so glad you can all finally comment and vote xx

Newbie (but oldie), I only began posting here at #41, voted GUILTY. Not ginger, don't like Turkish Delight, don't shop in Matalan, don't do FB or Twatter.
Btw, I'm a miracle baby, premature, weighed just 2lbs born when oxygen was the only medical aid administered for prem babies. Thank you NHS
Hope Letby is going down for a VERY long time, preferably rest of her life!

 

[Lucyxxxx]

Newbies I have important question. Do you think Osama Bin Laden had a kind face? Can you tell the difference between Fred West and Gary Glitter?

 

[nosycowmoo]

You guys! Impossible to keep up with a full time job and the kids stuff. Slow down, won’t you?

I caaaaaanot wait for all the people to share their recollections of LL all over the media after she is found guilty. Will this thread stay after the verdict?

it best had! I’ve tales to tell+++++

 

[mrs.darcy]

Now that I've read the judge's summing up so far I am a lot less nervous than I was last week.

 

[Mookle]

YES. I've not been able to vote before because i've not been able to register. I AM IN. She's guilty guilty, very very guilty.

Thank you to all of you who have made following this case as easy as it could be, by laying out all of the information and for many of your astute reasonings.

 

[Tofino]

I do have some sympathy for BM.

I was reading the Eric charity website the other day as my son is struggling with constipation and whenever I read ‘bowel movement’ I thought of Ben.

Not entirely sure this is how he would like to be remembered

 

[Futtrit]

The judge says Mr Myers "repeatedly expressed his opinions" on the merits of the expert evidence, questioning and challenging them.

 

[TapToBoreMeRigid]

Walks with my dog today...this morning I saw a huge LET BY sign outside a flat nearby. Afternoon walk, my dog picked up some rubbish and when I took it off her...Turkish Delight wrapper.

Bitch going down