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6 months prosecution vs half an hour of a plumber as defence 
I don’t know how anyone can still believe in her innocence now. Not after that surely.
Those poor babies and their families
Those poor babies and their families
Went for my 11am coffee break at work and expected to come back to some decent reading... HOLY MAC AND CHEESE BALLS... The plumber!
Bet BNE is HOWLING that that is their only defence. I actually feel a bit sorry for BM that he's had to lower himself to this level.
Bet BNE is HOWLING that that is their only defence. I actually feel a bit sorry for BM that he's had to lower himself to this level.
Crazy that they have not been able to find even one witness to cast doubt on even the smallest thing (soz Lorenzo, i'm sure you're a fab plumber but you don't count).
Jesus. If I was accused of murdering babies and my defence put out a plumber from estates as my only defence, I’d be devastated. She knows she did it. BM knows she did it. Surely the jury know she did it. Wow, wow, wow. Can’t believe the evidence is all done now.
Where the judge has said w/c July 3rd is when the jury are expected to go out, does that mean that’s when they can start their deliberations?
Where the judge has said w/c July 3rd is when the jury are expected to go out, does that mean that’s when they can start their deliberations?
BM is part of the CoNsPiRaCy
Holy duck, she's absolutely being found guilty for this.
Jury must be ripping having to come all the way to court to hear 37 minutes of curd talk and then be sent home.
Hope Letby’s van is extra sweaty.
Hope Letby’s van is extra sweaty.
Copying the below across (in a spoiler so it doesn't take up all the room) to make it a bit easier for people to read and catch-up? (Hope that's OK/helps some people...)
11:32am
Another report is on June 6, 2016, a 'flood in courtyard' of the neonatal unit. Mr Mansutti says this may have followed a heavy downpour. He does not believe the foul drainage runs that way, so it would more likely be surface water.
Another report is on July 5, 2016, in ward 35/CLS, for 'various plumbing jobs in NNU'.
'Check pall water filters for poor flow'
'Check that all valves in the ceiling void are fully open - NNU and by theatres...'
'Leaking sink in Sluiceroom - please check'.
Mr Myers asks about the last of these jobs.
Mr Mansutti says it is likely a leak in one of the sinks. He says there is not a Sluiceroom in the neonatal unit.
11:37am
Nicholas Johnson KC, for the prosecution, asks Mr Mansutti questions.
Mr Mansutti agrees that one of the problems for the flooding was adults 'putting things down sinks'.
One incident is somebody 'forcing a wipe towel down a sink'. Mr Mansutti accepts an incident did take place.
He says none of the incidents led to no hand washing facilities availability, and there is a system in place.
He says there has been 'sewage floods' in the neonatal unit. He says there was once incident, undated, not on a Datix form, where there was sewage on neonatal unit room 1.
He says he has knowledge of it because of "disgust", and work was done on moving sewage pipes away from the unit room in future, "so it couldn't happen again".
He says, for his recollection, it was a "one-off".
Mr Johnson says half the incidents listed did not take place in the neonatal unit. Mr Mansutti says there would not have been a direct effect on that unit for those days.
11:37am
That completes Mr Mansutti's evidence.
It also completes the evidence presented in the Lucy Letby trial.
11:38am
The trial judge, Mr Justice James Goss, is now giving preliminary directions to the jury.
11:40am
The trial judge says he has to discuss his directions of law with the prosecution and defence before he can deliver them to the jury.
He says those will likely be presented to the jury on Thursday, and the jury will not be present in court 'for very long'.
11:42am
The judge says the week beginning July 3 is when the jury will be expected to go out.
He says it is in the "hope and expectation that nothing untoward occurs", as the trial has had delays and it has gone on longer than expected.
11:43am
He also reminds the jurors of their obligations not to discuss the case with anyone, and not to discuss it amongst themselves until they are sent to deliberate.
11:44am
The jury are now sent home for the day.
Another report is on June 6, 2016, a 'flood in courtyard' of the neonatal unit. Mr Mansutti says this may have followed a heavy downpour. He does not believe the foul drainage runs that way, so it would more likely be surface water.
Another report is on July 5, 2016, in ward 35/CLS, for 'various plumbing jobs in NNU'.
'Check pall water filters for poor flow'
'Check that all valves in the ceiling void are fully open - NNU and by theatres...'
'Leaking sink in Sluiceroom - please check'.
Mr Myers asks about the last of these jobs.
Mr Mansutti says it is likely a leak in one of the sinks. He says there is not a Sluiceroom in the neonatal unit.
11:37am
Nicholas Johnson KC, for the prosecution, asks Mr Mansutti questions.
Mr Mansutti agrees that one of the problems for the flooding was adults 'putting things down sinks'.
One incident is somebody 'forcing a wipe towel down a sink'. Mr Mansutti accepts an incident did take place.
He says none of the incidents led to no hand washing facilities availability, and there is a system in place.
He says there has been 'sewage floods' in the neonatal unit. He says there was once incident, undated, not on a Datix form, where there was sewage on neonatal unit room 1.
He says he has knowledge of it because of "disgust", and work was done on moving sewage pipes away from the unit room in future, "so it couldn't happen again".
He says, for his recollection, it was a "one-off".
Mr Johnson says half the incidents listed did not take place in the neonatal unit. Mr Mansutti says there would not have been a direct effect on that unit for those days.
11:37am
That completes Mr Mansutti's evidence.
It also completes the evidence presented in the Lucy Letby trial.
11:38am
The trial judge, Mr Justice James Goss, is now giving preliminary directions to the jury.
11:40am
The trial judge says he has to discuss his directions of law with the prosecution and defence before he can deliver them to the jury.
He says those will likely be presented to the jury on Thursday, and the jury will not be present in court 'for very long'.
11:42am
The judge says the week beginning July 3 is when the jury will be expected to go out.
He says it is in the "hope and expectation that nothing untoward occurs", as the trial has had delays and it has gone on longer than expected.
11:43am
He also reminds the jurors of their obligations not to discuss the case with anyone, and not to discuss it amongst themselves until they are sent to deliberate.
11:44am
The jury are now sent home for the day.
I feel sick, this trial makes me feel so ill all the time
Hope those Facebook loons and any of her other staunch defenders shut the duck up henceforth. The murderous witch doesn't have a leg to stand on.
This is bleeping laughable and an absolute insult to those poor babies.
Hope those Facebook loons and any of her other staunch defenders shut the duck up henceforth. The murderous witch doesn't have a leg to stand on.
There has to be something more to this. Has she admitted to BM that she's killed them or something so he can't mislead the court by bringing in the professor of neonatology to explain it away?
bleeping millions of pounds spent on this trial and the best BM's rustled up is a PLUMBER.
bleeping millions of pounds spent on this trial and the best BM's rustled up is a PLUMBER.
Gang of 5
As if that’s the evidence concluded and the jury have been sent home for the day… so seriously they’ve got no medical witnesses at all? Wow. If that’s everything, then I’m sure it’ll take the Jury all of 2 minutes to find her guilty on all charges.
I reckon BM is secretly buzzing at this as well to be fair. He must know she's guilty.
I have a feeling she has tbh.
On a 2 hour train journey up to Wembley Stadium and just settled down to follow the updates live for the first time uninterrupted to find out that’s it 
can’t believe it!
Anyone know what the Facebook huns are saying?
can’t believe it!Anyone know what the Facebook huns are saying?
So just to be clear: the entire trial up until now was prosecution evidence? So Letby’s defense was just herself on the stand and Mario’s cousin on the hospital plumbing?
That’s insane. That’s so insane. I wonder if they were ever intending on having more defence witnesses or experts. Like, did her terrible testimony scare them all away or did they have none in the first place?
The bleeping audacity of her to not plead guilty at the start. Honestly.
That’s insane. That’s so insane. I wonder if they were ever intending on having more defence witnesses or experts. Like, did her terrible testimony scare them all away or did they have none in the first place?
The bleeping audacity of her to not plead guilty at the start. Honestly.
I'm a bit confused. What is happening between now and July 3rd? Closing statements?
In fairness if he can't get anyone to say otherwise what's he meant to do!? Any chance she had for defence was undone by her own narcissistic self on the stand. My God she's stupid.Tell us you think she’s guilty, without telling us you think she’s guilty BM
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