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Tofino

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this for me is only because she’s on the stand atm, it’s on the news. The casuals turn up. They didn’t know Lucy Letby existed until last week. It is kind of the age of “fuck the police and conspiracy theories bro” and people love to go against what they’re told don’t they. but i think at this point you’d genuinely struggle to find someone that’s followed from the start, who’s isn’t at least leaning towards guilty.

Although I do think today was easily her best day on the stand.
Best day on the stand? Even with the sewage curveball? It’s not saying much really 🤣

BBC write up is quite a good summary and does not make her look good at all

 
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pixieroo

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From Sky's reporting

Letby says the experts presented evidence of overfeeding.

"How would they know? Which experts?" Mr Johnson asks.

Letby takes a sip of her water and does not reply to this question, staring straight ahead in silence.

Mr Johnson then asks about the scene when Letby and her colleagues discovered Child G had vomited onto the floor.



Would love to know how this seemed in the court room, how long the silence went on before NJ carried on with questions.
 
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MmmB777

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Sooooo… on Friday she was speaking as little as possible and as short of answers as she could, and she crumbled. Today she was she same but she was pissed off, she was arrogant, snappy and verging on rude. She’s so self assured, almost cocky. She has a lovely accent but today she was fighting. IMO she was pissed about Friday and came back fighting. She blinks unbelievably fast when answering anything too I noticed it on Friday but it seemed even MORE today! She seemed irritated every single time she had to turn to a page, or open another file (which btw are hugeeeeeee some arch lever a4, and another one is shorter but the widest file I’ve ever seen. IMO she showed her true colours today, it’s all got to her and she was not happy about it. The prosecution as always was calm, polite and lovely with her but still made his points. I was surprised they didn’t bring up baby Es mum saying she heard the scream, and that it’s directly the mums word vs LL. It was a long day and at times hard to follow, I’m going to read the live feeds from today to digest it all and I’ll be back 🙂
This is really how it reads imo 🤷🏻‍♀️ she always sounds stroppy. She gives herself away so often. That attitude doesn’t strike me as someone desperately traumatised, so traumatised they can only recall very specific things that help their case. Nor does it strike me as someone feeling desperate because they’re wrongly accused.

Even the bit about the sewage “it’s important to know” and “it’s a contributory factor” like sorry Detective Letby 🥴 thanks for letting everyone know.
 
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Anol

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Listening to that podcast and Baby D has broken me. My little one was born full term but spent a night in neonatal due to a rash and respiratory issues and the thought of not bringing him home is absolutely heart breaking. He's now a toddler and currently running around like a loon and I feel so grateful but so also feel much pain and sadness for these parents 😔
It's heartbreaking, I remember coming home without my baby because she needed to spend another few nights in nicu, I knew she was coming home eventually but I cried the entire way home and when I came back I opened her wardrobe and broke my heart crying looking at all her little clothes, imagine having no baby to ever bring home, I actually can't imagine the grief, and then to think someone deliberately caused their deaths, I dunno how they are coping.
 
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slidders

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Letby says the experts presented evidence of overfeeding.

"How would they know? Which experts?" Mr Johnson asks.

Letby takes a sip of her water and does not reply to this question, staring straight ahead in silence.


She's run out of lies so staying silent now.
She knows EXACTLY what she did to that baby.
 
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docmum

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Quite possibly. It may be that gaps in her competence were identified but tbh I think it's more simple than that. As humans and nurses, we don't expect to find a serial killer in our midst and it would be the very last thing to think. I've worked with some shockingly incompetent nurses in my nursing life but they have just been incompetent, not murderous. And fortunately concerns were taken further with those nurses and two of the worst ones were struck off.
this is the hardest thing to explain to non-HCPs, but you have said it so well. It’s just not a mindset that I’ve ever had when it’s come to the reason for a deteriorating patient. What I’ve found really harrowing the last few days, and especially today, is that her taking the stand has shown she was more sadistic and less opportunist than I had believed from previous evidence. Things like getting others to document obs, changing obs in baby G, the blood in the nappy saga. If she truly did plan and follow through with her actions, then whilst she was in control of her emotions and the surroundings in the early days, there was almost no chance at all of ‘detection’ imo.
 
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LittleMy

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As if we’d get this far into the trial with no one mentioning sewage but Lucy has a few days off and then miraculously remembers it?
 
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nichew

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The oh so magical Lucy letby caring for patients that’s wasn’t even born yet ….. cunt
 
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gigilouxx

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“too quiet” make yourself busy then Lucy get the mop out for all that raw sewage that’s apparently swimming about. Liar
 
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DellaC

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It worries me that this is what BM is going to labour on in his closing statement. He’ll be like you have to find her guilty beyond ALL REASOANBLE DOUBT and if you think there is any doubt at all that another person could have done these things, even as mistakes and not meaning to do them, you must find her not guilty.

got a bad feeling about it TBH
Ah don't worry. Justice will prevail. This what she's doing on the stand is tantamount to hammering the final nails in her cell-like coffin.
It's a ridiculous performance and I'm sure it's traumatic for those she's firing bullets at but I just think it's utterly fantastic. The silly fucker is showing herself for what she is.
 
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When you are about to get into an argument with someone on Facebook that believes it’s a hospital cover up and then see their profile pic 🌚 … I’ll leave it right there… continue wanking in your family basement.
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OldBlondie

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Oh just remembered something else I meant to say about the podcast, so they said on it about the sympathy card for baby I being photographed when she was on night shift at 4.30am. So this was in the middle of her night shift.

I’d said before that she’d written the card at home, put it in the envelope, gone into work, taken it back out the envelope, taken a picture of it, and then sealed the envelope and passed it on to a colleague. Anyone else that was doing this (not that many would be doing this in the first place, but anyway), would have taken a picture of it straight away once they’d written it and then sealed the envelope instead of taking it in and out and into work unsealed.

The fact that we now know she took the photo at 4.30am in the middle of her night shift for me just backs up that she waited until she was back at the scene of the crime, and deliberately took the photo of the card in the exact place she’d murdered baby I. It’s not like she’s just come on shift and took a photo of the card before handing it over to another member of staff to take with them, or had quickly taken a pic of it at the end of shift before handing it over. It’s the fact she’s done it right in the middle and taken it out of the envelope again to do it, she defs took that at the scene of the crime for her collection/trophies. There is no innocent explanation yet again for the order in which she’s done it. Why wouldn’t you just take the photo at home as soon as you’ve written the card and then you can seal the envelope. Taking the picture bang in the middle of night shift is so sinister, especially as her explanation was she wanted to remember it, well why would you want the reminder of it in the most sad place there is (which is where the child had died), it makes no sense.

And it’s all the little bits like this all add up to a very clear and sinister picture of a serial killer healthcare worker, these little bits are all absolutely what SKHC’s typically do, this kind of behaviour is exactly what is to be looked out for, as they are typical red flags in cases like this. For the people shouting scape goat etc, well hasn’t it worked out so conveniently well for the entire hospital (that have now been thrown under the bus), and the gang of 4 etc that LL just so happened to be showing all these typical serial killer healthcare worker red flags, as well as being the only one there for all 22 incidents too, the worlds most unlucky nurse Forgetby… imagine 🙄
 
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What an absolute awful day for those parents. I don’t know how they manage to cope through this. My darling grandson was born the summer of 2015 and had an emergency op at 2 weeks old. He’s a strapping nearly 8 year old and the absolute joy of all our lives. I just could not even begin to conceive how those parents have kept their cool but they have because they want justice for their darling babies that should all be looking forward to turning 8 this year. Sorry that sounds so awful to say. She’s a wicked wicked person and she’s coming across as such a narcissistic heartless bitch of a woman who is only out for herself. Like others have said had it been any of us up there and completely innocent we would be acting so grief stricken for the parents and those babies and we wouldn’t be tripping ourselves up with our earlier lies. Love to all xxx
 
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MmmB777

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Exactly. I would like to think I have a good (professional) relationship with all my patients but have never ever felt the need to FB stalk them. I find it so so weird.
Had a working relationship with 30/30+ parents a year, laughed with them, cried with them, looked after their most precious beings 5 days a week. Not once have I ever looked a parent up. Ever. It’s weird and gross and firmly against rules.
 
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Motherofpugs

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Wtf. ‘A massive haemorrhage could happen to any baby.’ Er no. Massive haemorrhages do not just happen. She’s not even a good liar.
 
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yellowmellow

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"Letby agrees it was "an innocent coincidence" that she was the only nurse in the room at this time."

Aye, happens a lot this does, doesn't it? So so many innocent coincidences...

 
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Stiltoncheese

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I'm intrigued to hear BNEs closing statement in this. I'm almost certain he will point out exactly how many different people she has blamed for each incident. The jury may not pick up on it all at the time given how much they hear and have to take it. However, it will stand out if BNE can say she had pretty much blamed someone else in all 22 cases, yet she was the only one present for all of them.
 
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LittleMy

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So another colleague attempted to murder baby/babies with Insulin.

This baby could have died by being overfed by a colleague.

Wasn't there another of the babies that could have been killed by another colleague? All according to her. I can't keep up!
At the rate she’s going she’ll be accusing NJ himself next. She’s an absolute melt. 🥴
 
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Moronic

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Does anyone else feel a bit ill when they read “Letby was ___’s designated nurse”… like she wasn’t their nurse, she was their murderer and they had no chance 😢
 
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