Lucy Letby Case #33

[FastAndTheCurious7]

I know this is a bit of a pointless question but IF she was to changer her plea would she need to attend court to do so?

 

[avabella]

Ate you in the UK? GPs absolutely cannot prescribe anti psychotics here, anyone prescribing such medication would be some sort of specialist not just a GP or regular nurse. I’m on anti psychotics for PTSD from being physically and sexually abused, sex trafficked and left with internal injuries the nurses who treated me had never even seen in a sexual attack And I’m prescribed anti psychotics for it. my GP is not allowed any kind of say over that medication, he cannot take it off my prescription or alter the dosage at which it’s taken and everyone Ive ever spoken to who’s on it, in various counties has the same rule. Even the nurses on the psychiatric wards don’t do the prescribing.

Also, if she had been assessed, diagnosed by an actual psychiatrist and deemed so severe that she is prescribed anti psychotics, her defence would’ve mentioned it, because it would be reasonable to be unable to remember things then, and could Even be used to try to sway the jury to overlook her contradictions (although I also suffer from dissociative amnesia and can lose hours out of a day where I don’t know what I’ve done and even I don’t contradict myself like she does).

But she didn’t. She stated the GP prescribed her antidepressants, and his decision to do so will purely be based on her description of her symptoms, and not an investigated, assessed diagnosis which is discussed by a team of professionals who all agree with each others conclusions based on decades of combined experience and a good variety of areas of experience and expertise.
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It’s reviewed by a psychiatrist/consultant depending what it’s being used to treat. Psychiatrist if mental health though not a GP

Yep I'm in the UK. And it was prescribed by a mental health nurse. Not for anything like PTSD right enough, but it is an anti psychotic medication. Maybe there are different strains? I have no idea. I have the tablets here

 

[White]

I know this is a bit of a pointless question but IF she was to changer her plea would she need to attend court to do so?

I don't think so, but they would set a date for sentencing instead of carrying on with the trial. Maybe someone in Law can confirm if that's the case.

 

[jhm9rhs]

Yes actually. Won 4 in a row I think on Jodie Marsh thread, the Marcus Mitchell thread I'm notorious for it, Steph Davis thread is currently my suggestion. Won a fair few on the Jake Quickenden thread. Won last week on the Philip Schofield thread.

Haha I didn't know that was you on the PS thread!

 

[A mega Pint]

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[Tobyonek]

Will Dr NoName be cross examined or has that already happened? I’m a bit confused 🫤

 

[Slip slip knit]

By the way, in case it isn't obvious, I'm well and truly off the "not committing to a side until I've heard all evidence" fence and have purchased a season ticket in the guilty camp

What was it that pursued you that she is guilty?

 

[Danica Catrick]

Its literally impossible for her to be on anything else. It has been stated by her defence, and by letby herself that she is taking anti depressants which have been prescribed by a GP.

A GP is not allowed to prescribe anything other than SSRIs, other than mirtazapine, which can make you drowsy the next day at first but this effect wears off after a couple of weeks.

Is this a relatively new thing? Because I've previously been prescribed SNRIs and Tricyclics by GPs.

Not that I think whatever she's on is relevant to her defence

ETA I've just realised this was 20 years ago, and in Chester, that I was prescribed these antidepressants

 

[avabella]

There’s people on Facebook thinking she’s going to get declared unfit and the whole trial cancelled and all evidence written off

I don’t even think the PTSD should be allowed to be called a diagnosis. People are going on using words like “medicated” and talking like she’s drugged up to the eyeballs but the only statements about it I can find are where Lucy stated in court that her GP diagnosed her with PTSD and prescribed her anti depressants.

A GPs “diagnosis” of PTSD is based entirely on what the patient tells them. There are no further investigations or assessments at that point, their first port of call is to start them on an SSRI such as sertraline or citalopram. If she is struggling to sleep they may suggest mirtazapine, which is an anti depressant and also has a sedative effect, and it’s Anti depressants effect is quicker than SSRIs. Mirtazapine can make you sleepy the next day initially. But Lucy would be way past that now as you build up a tolerance. She is in absolutely no way heavily medicated or impaired. GPS are not allowed to prescribe things like anti psychotics, or mood balancers, which are used to treat the kind of PTSD that comes from actual abuse, rather than the kind Lucy has that comes from sitting in a clean, warm room, in absolute no danger of being harmed physically or abused mentally, being asked questions about the highly inappropriate behaviour YOU have been engaging in at work, that’s led them to think you might have murdered a flock of babies.

There is only further investigations and assessments and psychiatrists involved if that medication does not help. She will not be being prescribed any sleeping tablets long term. Because they do not work long term, and particularly if you were “having a mental breakdown” as people on Facebook are suggesting could happen and the trial will be called off. It really wouldn’t. You have to be seriously mentally unwell, unable to understand reality, consequences or right from wrong or in active psychosis or similar to warrant being assessed to see if you are unfit. She’s spent 7 months in court in perfect control of herself, Having never needed help for any behaviour that would fit such a serious mental condition, never having had a single friend or work colleague say they have witnessed any such behaviour, and your defence has never mentioned it.

If PTSD and anti depressants from the GP made you unfit, women’s prisons would be empty. Currently, they are full of women who suffer with PTSD from actual abuse, and are on medication, it’s a usually a big reason for the offending that got them locked up.

I’ve been prescribed a drug that is classed as an anti psychotic (not for psychosis!) by a nurse, so they can be dished out, or at least, in my part of the world

 

[Runninggems]

she is on basic SSRI anti depressants from a GP

Is this legit knowledge or speculation?