Lucy Letby case #28

[veevee04]

I really hope there are some jurors with medical or nursing backgrounds.

I just don't get what the point of putting LL on the stand has been? She hasn't offered any groundbreaking explanations for what we've already discovered, and if anything has made it worse (which surely will only get more so when the pros get on to her). It's a huge risk for no gain, which makes me think she's gone against BM advice.

Probably wouldn't be a good thing to secure a guilty verdict. I think she's guilty because of the medical evidence not the circumstantial. I've taken handover sheets accidentally home normally crumpled in a bag I've also googled a couple of patients , relating to crimes they have done. They change their names by deed poll (criminals do this a lot) so I looked up the old name. I'm definitely not a pyscho killer just curious HCPs could relate to some of it , I think the focusing on FB searches and handover sheets is weakening the case. She's a freak ok but many people are doesn't make them a killer.

The medical testimony and she was the only one there and the baby collapses stopped when she left the unit. This is what they need to focus on. They need to stop focusing so much on FB searches and handover sheets if there's any hcps on the jury.
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Reading the reddit it's split almost 50/50 on whether there's enough evidence . The incidents stopped after she left the unit but also the unit was downgraded to less poorly babies which logically would mean baby deaths went down. I think the balance of probabilities she did it but it's so tricky.

 

[stardust1]

Sorry, saw your screenshot after I posted. But god, if that's legit it's so sad they had to wade into that cesspit of FB psychos.

i wish i could find the other screenshot, only thing that made me doubt was would they risk the trial going tits up commenting on a page or can they share their opinions like us?

 

[yellowmellow]

I know it's been asked before but I can't remember the answer, if there was one. Does anyone know what the jury would likely be doing today? Are they expected to go to work? "Hi everyone! Not been here for 6 months but back for 2 days " Or do they just get a well-deserved day off?

 

[Pulltheotherone]

Thanks @Tofino ! X

 

[Lucyxxxx]

Honestly this is me (but more ginger)

Let's not start this again....

 

[stardust1]

There is a different breed of human in that group a couple of the regular die-hards knock me ill with the shit they spout and I just hope to God the parents and families never see it.

there is one person who is in there who says she is a family member. When i looked at her profile she had family in chester and checked into places around chester so may be true

 

[MedeaWho]

I'm new to this thread (just found it!) and by all accounts (including her own admission in her diary) she is guilty.
However, has anyone speculated about *why* she killed / attempted to kill babies? (sorry, I'm new and this might have been asked before)....

Just read any one of the threads, this has been discussed continually

 

[AllieBee]

They can ask her anything related to the evidence like police interviews, stuff they found etc. it’s not just based on defence. But if she brings up something new in defence I think they question that.

funnily enough I’m having flashbacks now of Savannah Brockhill making some sort of statement about TikTok and prosecution went and got the facts on it and cross examined her and managed to disprove what she said. I can’t remember the specifics now but it was really impressive how they did it.

Ah thank you! Was just mulling and thought that might be the case but wasn't sure. That's good though, bet they have loads of questions for her!

 

[MmmB777]

Phewww managed to catch up before court starts today. So many good points made, both ways. I’m sure she is guilty from all medical evidence, the post it notes, diary, police interviews, her tears & petty lies (shredder) imo are the cherry on top.
Just to add when I was (wrongfully) arrested from my bed I was allowed to get showered, get dressed & do my hair. To me she is only looking for sympathy by mentioning her PJs. Yes I panicked at first (the shock at 6am). They needed to search too but I wasn’t guilty and didn’t have anything to hide. Stripped off in front of a female officer, got showered while she stood right there tits swinging galore. I had no problem exposing my sexy over weight body as I was not guilty. Plus I suffer with OCD they would never get me out the door without washing my fanny at least. !!
Hopefully I’ve got enough time to grab a cuppa & some biscuits.

No court today love sorry x

 

[stardust1]

@Nurseali @Daisydunn15 @Serene Serena is that just a recommendation or do you have to do that to stay registered etc? Essentially would anyone check this?

 

[slingo16]

what would you expect to see on an internet search if she was guilty?

IMO she didn’t need to internet search as she had tons of training and assessments behind her! Some as fresh as spring 2015.

To be honest it sounds like you want to ignore medical evidence because it doesn’t fit a pattern you believe should occur. Nobody knows, including prosecution, what her intentions might have been for having different methods. Maybe she was trying to cover up. Maybe she got bored. Maybe she was experimenting to see different outcomes. Maybe it was based on opportunity depending what was available to her at the time. Who knows! But trying to decide guilt based on a pre conceived idea on what her methodology should be if she was guilty feels a bit absurd tbh.

What is your belief that a serial killer wouldn’t change methods based on?

I don’t believe it’s impossible for a killer to change their method. I just think given these particular circumstances it seems like the worst choice she could have possibly made. It doesn’t seem like a logical move to me is all and My opinion is based on loads of different things it’s far more than just the lack of logic in what they allege. I’ve always had doubts and having now heard the prosecution in full they just didn’t have enough to fully convince me.

 

[Former_Antelopee]

Totally agree.
I admit I am bad with names but even patients who meant a lot to me I struggle even three months later to remember their full name. I think that is normal for most nurses as otherwise you would burn out if you had so many patients who resonated.

The Facebook searches are such an important part for me as it isn't normal behaviour and to me she was wanting to see grief on their pages. Grief and despair she had caused. It's like a trophy.

Tbh I think it depends on the person if it’s normal to remember the names for them. I can remember names of people in my job from ages ago whereas some people I work with can’t remember them from a week ago

 

[Tofino]

She's suspended, you can view the documentation here.

Do we know when she was first suspended? It says 18 months but is that 18 months since she was first suspended or how long the suspension is in place for.

 

[DellaC]

Thanks One Kid at school, One with Scarlet Fever ! Bloody thought it was Friday, rushed home

Aww hope your little one is better soon

 

[yellowmellow]

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Thanks Della, much appreciated

 

[F1Grid]

15 min break in court now.

 

[F1Grid]

No, but wasn’t it said yesterday that she received a letter from the NMC stating the allegations? Although why they would be the body to inform her , unless it was potential unintentional harm they were informing her of, instead of criminal charges.
Or am I wrong?

It was the RCN, so the union. NMC is the regulator, like the BMA vs the GMC for doctors.

 

[craig84]

new podcast

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[What's your point]

It doesn't for me it's established by now she's a full on weirdo who does strange things. There's a lot of weirdos out there who aren't killers. The thing that cements the guilt for me is the stable babies having random collapses, air and insulin injected whilst she was on shift which stopped after she left. If the defence don't pull out a stasticial analysis defence or medical witnesses for the defence imo she's 100 percent guilty. Notes and facebook searches don't sway anything for me.

No me either to be honest, if anything the notes are about the only thing making me doubt her guilt because they to me at least lean heavily towards her feeling guilty because or incompetence rather than malicious acts... but then she shoots herself in the foot by saying in police interviews she didn't make mistakes so .

The medical evidence says it all to me, way more so than notes or Facebook searches.

 

[rararala]

there is one person who is in there who says she is a family member. When i looked at her profile she had family in chester and checked into places around chester so may be true

What kinda stuff does she say, NG or??