Oh please. People experience abuse differently and there are many forms of abuse. Just because you have one specific experience in mind doesn't mean that's what it looks like for everyone else and it certainly does not make you the authority on everyone else's perception of abuse. Also just because you would behave like Faye doesn't make the behaviour right.I totally agree. I'm pretty disappointed by a lot of views on here, I normally find I'm in step with most opinions on Tattle, but some of the comments about Faye over the last day are pure Mumsnet (that bastion of perfect female behaviour where someone once told me I should have my kids taken into care because I swore in front of them). Calling Faye a potty mouth (such an absolute cringe term), that she's common, thick, has no class etc - because she got upset and made a scene, didn't fit in with some idea of how women should behave - she wasn't dignified like Millie (who is a bloody doormat frankly). All those type of comments really make me uncomfortable.
It's exactly the same as Liam and Matt sitting there judging Faye, who the fuck is Liam the duplicitous cheater to judge anyone?!
I'm a lot older than Faye. My dad brought me up never to take any shit from anyone. So I do argue, I shout and I certainly swear, I have since I was in my teens and I'm sure I will do it again. I will stand up for myself and my friends.
Raising your voice and telling someone to fuck off or that they're a prick is not abuse. Speaking down to someone, talking over them, most people do that in the heat of an argument at least once. Arguments aren't like on TV where everyone gives the other person a chance to air their views, is respectful and considered!
Abuse to me is when someone is screaming in your face (sometimes for hours) that you're an ugly dirty worthless cunt, you're fat and disgusting, repulsive, grotesque etc, any manner of insults. Spitting on you because you're nothing. And yes, that's happened to me more than once so I think I know the difference between that and a heated exchange.
Didn't she say her eyes were green? Looking like a lifeless blow up doll. Can't wait for the entire 2021 set to fade into obscurity.
Angry and shouting is aggression. Just because she hasn’t smashed anything or lashed out physically doesn’t mean it isn’t aggression. She was being verbally abusive.I wouldn't call it aggressive. Angry and shouty absolutely, but trust me if you've seen real aggression (and I have far too many times) that wasn't it.
I think this level of outrage is misplaced.
Faye wasn't putting people in their place, she was being verbally abusive to anyone who dared have an opinion that differed to hers.imagine? we don’t need to imagine because it happens all the fucking time and shut the fuck up about this whole double standards shit, men get away with fucking murder but whenever a woman puts a man in his place she’s apparently abusive and manipulative.
If I want to call Faye a dickhead I will Don’t get why someone who has posted over 700 messages on tattle is suddenly preaching be kindI am not and have not attempted to diagnose Faye. I’m not even going to use energy replying to each of your points when I can see by your defensive response that a part of you knows deep down this isn’t ethically right.
Gossip isn’t exploitation.
Ive done what I needed to do, I wanted to bring a different angle and I’ve done it, so I will bow out at this point.
Were we watching the same episode?I'm on the fence on this.
Whilst seeing that clip of Teddy wouldn't necessarily have made me lose my rag as much as Faye did, I would still have been bloody annoyed with him, not so much for being attracted to someone else but for the fact he'd not said a single thing about it. The whole debacle with Jake would have quite possibly tipped me over the edge. I don't get why none of the other girls were annoyed by the gnome, are they all just such simps that they can't see how bad it was? Why was no one else calling Jake out?!
Jake's reaction to Faye was really unpleasant. Take it from someone who's been there, he's the sort of bloke who would react with his hands if a woman puts him down or calls him out on his behaviour. It's written all over his thick face.
I know that loads of you think Matt is great, but I found the bit with him and that utter bellend Liam sitting there and commenting (about how awful Faye's shouting and arguing was) so bloody misogynistic. Real overtones of how women should behave in a certain way etc. Can't bear either of them now.
But back to Faye.. thing is, she did say she didn't want to speak to Teddy. Shouldn't he have left it at that? Spoke to her tomorrow when she was sober and a calmer discussion could have ensued?
I'm no massive fan of Faye's at all and haven't ever wanted her to win (other than as a way to stop Jiberty) but from some posts on here tonight the level of horror at her behaviour is such that you'd think she'd killed someone. She got annoyed, at least part of which was justified, she lost her temper, shouted and swore. She said her bit. In some ways I think good for her. I'd rather do that than be totally passive like Millie who is allowing Liam to walk all over her and will do exactly the same the next time he cheats and the one after that.