Lizzo

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I've always found her music annoying, but it is disappointing to find out that someone is a bully. The world doesn't need bullies.

The stunt with the glass flute was cool, but I do wish she'd put her bum cheeks away, whether she's a bully or not. It's not a fatphobic or racist thing, it's just not wanting to see bum cheeks out in public!
 
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I used to follow her on instagram (removed when the allegations surfaced) but could never work out why she was showing a healthy diet but still remaining the same size. Well of course I knew why, but the obvious lying meant that when the allegations did surface I immediately believed them becsue I had no trust in her anywayv
 
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PR 101: Makes a big announcement i.e. a flounce announcing she is quitting. Then realises no one gives a tit and people are actually taking the piss. Cue massive backtrack stating she is just quitting this negative energy and not music....
 
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I think noone has missed her or really mentioned her since last summer when the dancers issue came about, so she's probably pouting about that and will have some new music out soon to claw some attention/money back. I gave her a chance when she first came onto the music scene but the outfits, twerking, and passive aggressive statements on social media etc put me right off her, and then the dancers issue.
 
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I saw a recent video of Lizzo ( can't link to original it as it was within someone else's commentary video) were she talks about being on an 'intentional weight loss journey', and realising that she has previously been eating a lot more than she realised because she used it as a way to cope with stressful situations. She appears to be part of the American body positive community and now believes in being body neutral instead.

I think this is probably a good thing. I feel like the idea of 'Bopo' has been corrupted from what it was originally meant to be. It was originally about being confident in your appearance without having to look like a super model. Accepting your normal body, no matter the size, shape, scars etc.

The movement online now appears to be about large acceptance only, and shaming and bullying anyone who wants to lose weight. A lot of the large acceptance crew will refuse to lose weight under any circumstances, even if a doctor tells them it will help their medical issues, and refuse to admit that weight can be a factor in some health issues as ' skinny people can get cancer/heart disease/be diabetes'. If someone in the community dies it is not because of a weight related illness, it must be because a fatfobic doctor did not treat them well.

These days, I feel like if someone is large they deserve to go about their every day lives without people shouting abuse at them. But I also think that we should not lie to people and tell them there are no consequences to their actions, or in the case of people like Lizzo, ignore that sometimes the weight is being caused by an unhealthy coping mechanism. No therapist would ever tell a client that they should just eat when they felt stressed or sad, they would always encourage finding other ways to deal.

I don't care for her music or behaviour, but I think it can only be good for her to try and find other ways to cope with stress than what she has done in the past. I think it will also be helpful to a lot of people to see someone high profile talking about this being a struggle for them, and seeing that there are ways out of emotional eating.

I am assuming here that she is actually not talking bull here and taking drugs and not telling us.
 
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Resurrecting this thread because she's back... in a way...? Apparently her new album only sold 5,000 copies?

I didn't even hear she had a new album.
 
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Resurrecting this thread because she's back... in a way...? Apparently her new album only sold 5,000 copies?

I didn't even hear she had a new album.
I've never heard any of her music that I'd liked, and I'm old and saying this as someone only tangentially aware of her, so I'm gonna go ahead and say that, from what I was made aware of, her size seems to be a very big factor in her persona.

But we're living in a post Ozempic era, and things have flipped completely, and I don't think anyone's interested in that sort of persona anymore.
 
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She was never good. People liked her cos it made them feel good about liking a large singer and saying “but she’s soOOOoOo talented and she can dance and play flute!”

she always sucked
 
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I liked a couple of her songs. I didn't like all the body positive crap, she was overweight but luckily for her she had youth on her side. If she continued overweight she would probably get bigger and no doubt with all the health issues associated with it. I think it's good to be confident and comfortable in your own skin but let's not disguise obesity as something positive...
 
The music industry, like many industries, is what have you done for me lately. Unfortunately, unless you are Taylor Swift level of fame, people forget about your music fast.
 
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I'm wondering if Lizzo's fans are actually the kind of people to put their money where their mouth is. They might be young social media people who will click like, but not actually buy an album.
 
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Lizzo was very much part of viral trending; songs that get used in TikToks and they become hits. Her belief that radio doesn't or has just stopped supporting her just isn't true. Her biggest issue is that the viral hits from TikTok was how she got hits, but when it stops, she hasn't got the fanbase to back it up and maintain her career.

Her music has been God awful for a while anyway, so that's a factor, along with the 'body positive' image that she centred her USP on (which she can't really rely on anymore since she's lost a significant amount of weight) and also the lawsuit against her.

I can't think of many, if any, artists whose career has gone down the toilet so quickly and it's fascinating to see.
 
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