@Ginnyreturns Well maybe she should have been better at promoting the retreats, and also a bit clearer about what to expect. La Fraser may have 20K followers on Insta, but her engagement is very low. Who was she expecting to take up the retreat offer if she only yakked on about it on Insta? There are other platforms on which she could have advertised. In any case, the dirty old men can't write anything other than "go Liz" etc, so there's no hope for them becoming Pulitzer prize winners after 3 days in Venice. The canny cleaners don't need retreats in order to get creative. Don't know about YOU LOT, but Rhino only needs a glass or two of plonk to become inspired.