That’s not how the law looks at itYou would think all seven still needing to be in hospital would have a separate GBH charge.
That’s not how the law looks at itYou would think all seven still needing to be in hospital would have a separate GBH charge.
Yep, S.18 GBH is discretionary life sentence. Loads of aggravating factors, so he'll be looking at a long sentence.I've seen people saying GBH with intent and attempted murder both have life imprisonment as max sentence so they likely picked the GBH as it would be easier to prove
So what?He’s a former royal marine commando
We needed to know he doesn’t wear undiesSo what?
Have been since earlier in the week. Loads outside Hooters yesterday, strangely. And all up Water St.People are leaving flowers at the scene.
Definitely. His solicitor/barrister will probably have told him to plead guilty, there must be loads of footage from CCTV and mobiles of him committing the offence. However, people who commit serious offences are often gob heads and won't listen.I hope for his family’s sake he pleads guilty. They will be social pariahs in the area now - through no fault of their own.
I also hope that no one tries to target them or their home - they must be heartbroken.
The threshold for GBH is a lasting injury - from a broken bone to life changing. I suspect he’ll be looking at more than 10 years even if he pleads guilty.
Most people fight it in the hope they get a bit of a concession, they feel like once people hear their side it will be ok. That’s a risky gamble.Definitely. His solicitor/barrister will probably have told him to plead guilty, there must be loads of footage from CCTV and mobiles of him committing the offence. However, people who commit serious offences are often gob heads and won't listen.
If he puts the families through a trial, the judge will add it to all the other aggravating factors and he'll be getting a long term.
Yeah, I have to explain that to my students as they often don't understand why people opt to plead not guilty and go to a jury trial.Most people fight it in the hope they get a bit of a concession, they feel like once people hear their side it will be ok. That’s a risky gamble.
Jeez don’t shoot the messengerSo what?
Previous good character should not have any impact on sentencing. Once you murder someone, previous good character means absolutely nothing.It is, and his lawyer will likely go down the ‘served his country, good family man, god botherer’ rit as if any of that makes a difference.
About 10 or so years ago, my line manager killed his wife. That’s what his defence done, all the previous exemplary character etc etc, and his sentence was life with a minimum term of 12 years before parole. That’s nothing for murdering someone in cold blood.
his wife worked for the crown office and they appealed his sentence for being too lenient.
if he got a dozen years for that, then I’d be surprised if this knobber got much more.
It’s the usual. If it’s a black or brown person they are evil terrorists who should be sent back to where they come from (which is probably just down the road). If it’s a white person they must be ill. What happened to them that lead to this?Maybe I’m off the mark but all the articles saying he was a good neighbour, dedicated family man, wife a Sunday school teacher. Just seems like trying to sympathise with him and no way would the articles be like that if he wasn’t white. I don’t usually go in for racial stuff but I can see it before my own eyes here. Like Dave said “if he’s white give him a chance, he’s ill and confused, if he’s black (or…) he’s probably armed you see him and shoot”. Just my take.
They could also throw up something he experienced on active duty that caused him to act that way, like PTSD ? We don’t know what his medical history is or why the sudden change in media reporting ( basically non existent today) why the drugs charges have vanished and the original charges have been downgraded to an extent.It is, and his lawyer will likely go down the ‘served his country, good family man, god botherer’ rit as if any of that makes a difference.
About 10 or so years ago, my line manager killed his wife. That’s what his defence done, all the previous exemplary character etc etc, and his sentence was life with a minimum term of 12 years before parole. That’s nothing for murdering someone in cold blood.
his wife worked for the crown office and they appealed his sentence for being too lenient.
if he got a dozen years for that, then I’d be surprised if this knobber got much more.
That’s a disgrace and hope they get a visit from the polisPeople are posting his children’s pictures and names on social media![]()
Sorry, I didn’t mean it to sound like I was attacking you - a bit more context around why it’s helpful to know would have made your comment a bit clearer.Jeez don’t shoot the messenger![]()