Liam Payne

[Wonka]

I know this sounds a bit ridiculous, but i feel like this news has hit me hard even though I've never been a 1D fan. I think it's because my own son who is only 9 and has AuDHD is already showing signs that I think he will struggle with his mental health. i find this like this just make me so worried for what the future holds.

 

[JuneJuneHannah]

It was literally reported by TMZ about 90 minutes after it happened. It's terrible to think that his family might not have been informed before it was public news.

Any idea what time it first hit the news? I went to bed at 10pm and there was nothing then so family and close contacts may also have been in bed.

 

[maytoseptember]

I think I read somewhere that fame is in and of itself, traumatising. Similar to life events like bereavements or homelessness.

All of those five lads were extremely vulnerable, cognitively and emotionally still developing when they were at their most famous. And they were like the Beatles, they just exploded. They went from anonymous teenagers to the most famous lads in the world. And after a few short years, left to figure out their overwhelming wealth and fame when the band came to a sudden stop.

Great post. The music industry chewed them up and spat them out. After that it was a case of sink or swim, and Harry was really the only one who managed to launch a successful solo career.

The thing about boy bands (and girl bands, although they seem to cope better after breaking up) is they’re usually greater than the sum of their parts. Solo success for each individual member just isn’t going to happen.

It must be so humiliating to have incredible success as a band but be a laughing stock as a solo artist. Frankly I’m amazed that more ex boy band guys haven’t suffered a similar fate.

 

[bunsofsteel]

it’s interesting to think about. i think the people you have around you and your own personality are probably big factors. if you already have slightly insecure or obsessive tendencies, or have a thin skin, then i think you’ll struggle from the off. the level of fame you have to deal with is so variable too, and one direction were on a different level in what they had to navigate.

I agree, and I think to some extent it's the same in a lot of professions and line of work. People cope differently with pressure. Some people sail through, can let criticism or failure or pressure wash over them, others crumble, dwell on everything, take things much more to heart. We're all different so it stands to reason that everyone will have a different experience.

I don't doubt that some of the young stars go through trauma but I also think there's a fair few that come out of the woodwork to jump on the bandwagon. Because they have nothing else. They had this glimpse of "fame" but it wasn't real. They're still clinging on to being in the public eye. Obviously not talking about Liam as he was a big star.
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Great post. The music industry chewed them up and spat them out. After that it was a case of sink or swim, and Harry was really the only one who managed to launch a successful solo career.

I wouldn't say that is true, I think they've all had success as solo artists, Harry just has had the most.

 

[Shawads]

He must have been in Bear’s life recently - this was before the release of his latest single and has just broken my heart.

as someone who lost a parent through addiction you can’t ever let yourself believe it was a choice, it’s the hardest battle to have in your own head and if you let it win then it’s a dangerous place to be for your own happiness and future. Not a huge fan of Cheryl but I think she will handle this in exactly the right way with Bear.


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I lost a parent to addiction too. Honestly, he was lost long before he died, to himself, to me, to his family, to his various partners etc.
Even though logically I know it was a disease, there will always be a small part of me that wonders why I wasn’t enough.
The whole thing is very sad, I’m sure, and hope his mum and family will help him to feel loved and safe

 

[charlie6578]

Any idea what time it first hit the news? I went to bed at 10pm and there was nothing then so family and close contacts may also have been in bed.

I go into bed around 10.40pm and it was the first video that came up on my TikTok so must’ve been doing the rounds by then.

 

[hello from me]

Any idea what time it first hit the news? I went to bed at 10pm and there was nothing then so family and close contacts may also have been in bed.

I think about 11ish

 

[Stimpii]

Any idea what time it first hit the news? I went to bed at 10pm and there was nothing then so family and close contacts may also have been in bed.

It was around 10.40pm.
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Was it tmz that posted it first?

 

[WestSideIsDaBest]

After you’ve had such success what do you do with the rest of your life?
you’ve all the money in the world but (no pun intended) no direction. We all need to feel useful, have purpose. He didn’t anymore and that’s got to be hard.
you’ve all the fame so can’t do a normal job, you can’t be normal.

 

[Longtimelurker10]

I know a lot are speculating he took his own life but in the TMZ photos - where the tent is, it literally looks like it’s in the middle of a restaurant? Surely someone’s not gonna purposely jump into a restaurant where people are?
Editing to say I guess if you are out your brain on alcohol & drugs then you wouldn’t care!

So the story from someone who works at the hotel was he wanted to go in the pool but was told no as he was clearly intoxicated. He kicked off & got escorted back to his room - this is where the telephone call happens and they are concerned he will try and jump from the balcony (he didn’t want to be in the room). He smashes things up in his room and says he’ll jump into the pool, clearly someone with full capacity would know how stupid that is, he dives off the balcony and clearly doesn’t make it to the pool. This is why he’s head first & explains such a horrendous head injury.

Very sad and unfortunately it’s been quite obvious for a few weeks he’s been manic & on something. Really horrible for everyone involved I’m sure.

 

[JuneJuneHannah]

This person was tweeting prior to that hopefully the family didn't find out this way.

 

[Foxybrown]

Have any of the other bandmates given a statement yet, they must be in complete shock, especially Niall,

 

[hello from me]

Have any of the other bandmates given a statement yet, they must be in complete shock, especially Niall,

Is Niall still on tour

 

[maytoseptember]

I wouldn't say that is true, I think they've all had success as solo artists, Harry just has had the most.

Depends how you define "success" I suppose. Speaking as someone who was far too old to be into 1D, Harry is the only one whose music and tours I hear about. I feel like Zayn is basically a recluse these days and the other three have had very modest solo success.

 

[JuneJuneHannah]

So the story from someone who works at the hotel was he wanted to go in the pool but was told no as he was clearly intoxicated. He kicked off & got escorted back to his room - this is where the telephone call happens and they are concerned he will try and jump from the balcony (he didn’t want to be in the room). He smashes things up in his room and says he’ll jump into the pool, clearly someone with full capacity would know how stupid that is, he dives off the balcony and clearly doesn’t make it to the pool. This is why he’s head first & explains such a horrendous head injury.

Very sad and unfortunately it’s been quite obvious for a few weeks he’s been manic & on something. Really horrible for everyone involved I’m sure.

A friend from long, long ago heard someone fall from a bar roof in London and said the noise will live with her forever. She didn't see it but it was such un unnatural noise that made people stop in their tracks.

 

[Serene Serena]

I think the remaining 1D members may put out a joint statement in time, much like the Friends cast did when Matthew Perry died.

 

[Stimpii]

The restaurant closed at 4pm and was due to re open at 7.30pm.

 

[ChastityDingle]

and Harry was really the only one who managed to launch a successful solo career.

I don't know a huge amount about any of them, but I thought Niall Horan also launched a successful solo career.

The level of fame they hit as a group at such a young age must be absolutely frightening in many ways. Niall seems very grounded though.

 

[Spicyicy12]

I saw BGT auditions were put on halt too

 

[Stimpii]

Is Niall still on tour

It finished on the 9th October