His mums heartbreak alone should be all the proof anyone would ever need ay. Plus the fact that unfortunately so many people actually saw the photograph of his body. I also don't think a minister would conduct a funeral for a fake death lol that must be some kind of sin for them right thereWhy is faking a death the go-to response when a celebrity dies? OK, they could potentially come back one day. But in the meantime, they're inflicting pain on their fans [and possibly family/friends]. Witness protection aside, that's not ok. If I had been a fan, I'd be furious and it would put me off that person forever. It makes no sense.
In terms of Liam, let's take a minute and go along with the delusion that he faked his own death. If he hadn't told his family he was going to do it, that's disgusting and everyone should condemn him for putting his family through that. If he did tell them and his funeral was fake, his mum deserves an Oscar for her portrayal of the grieving mother.
It's a lot of effort to go to to step out of the limelight when he could have just asked Zayn or Harry how they go off-grid.
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Surely if he told his family and friends he was planning on faking his death to get out of the public eye and away from the hate he was getting they'd tell him it's not a good idea? Putting fans alone, and not family and friends, through that is horrible
Not that I can think of, but it was something that really took off with Elvis, mostly because his name was spelled incorrectly on his headstone.Genuine question here because I can't be bothered to Googlebut has there ever been any celebrity who has died and "came back to life" again? I'd imagine the percentage of this must be high because literally anytime a celebrity dies there's so many people not believing it like it's some kind of regular occurrence
And that was before the internet and social media too! He would have never done that to his daughter, the same way Liam would never do that to Bear. It's quite scary the way that logical thinking goes out the window with some "fans". It must be so hurtful to his parents and sons, I'd imagine there would have been a part of his parents refusing to "want to believe it" as part of their grief also as Bear grows up, all children have these made up scenarios, because it's their parent and they're a child. I don't know how they can really call themselves fans at this point!
Seriously, I think it’s because people don’t see celebrities as humans, and because they’re scared of their own mortality.Why do people get so convinced celebrities fake their deaths? Lol its like people thinking celebrities just can't die or something
I need someone to do a study on whether the popularity of fake!death conspiracy theories is seen more or less in people who live in countries where death is more normalised (either through war / natural disasters, or because they have strong cultural traditions linked to their ancestors.
(So, yeah, just a small, easy PhD topic for someone there!)
Honestly, though, I’m convinced that fake!death conspiracy theorists will be concentrated in countries where there’s a poor understanding of and relationship with death.
Like honestly what do they think he'd have to gain by faking his death 
(some bizarre claim that he knows too much about Diddy or Beyonce or something similar I'd warrant).
No relationship with any of his family, including his young son?
Without even getting into his vulnerabilities with mental health issues and addiction, he had a known habit for physically escaping situations he found stressful.
He'd been lucky so many times before and climbed down balconies successfully, and sadly this time he was just so tragically unlucky.
It really doesn't do Liam or his loved ones any justice to minimise how he ended up that way, by making out he's secretly hiding in an emu farm in Mongolia or Zayns freaking tour bus.
(some bizarre claim that he knows too much about Diddy or Beyonce or something similar I'd warrant).No relationship with any of his family, including his young son?
Without even getting into his vulnerabilities with mental health issues and addiction, he had a known habit for physically escaping situations he found stressful.
He'd been lucky so many times before and climbed down balconies successfully, and sadly this time he was just so tragically unlucky.
It really doesn't do Liam or his loved ones any justice to minimise how he ended up that way, by making out he's secretly hiding in an emu farm in Mongolia or Zayns freaking tour bus.
Anyone wondering if Cheryl knew about the prostitutes from the start, which prompted her to protect Liams memory and their son with her don’t even post/print what you have to say post? Love how fierce she is about protecting Liam and bear. And wondering if Kate will continue with her I love you Liam posts and tats now it’s actually in print what happened with the ‘ladies’
Why would Cheryl know???? or even care. It’s quite literally nothing to do with her. They broke up 6/7 years ago and moved on. He was with Kate and Maya longer. She’s protecting Bear, not Liam. Bear will one day find out there’s photos of his dad’s body on the internet thanks to the press. He will have access to information that in a normal world is kept private for the family inquest.
I just don’t get this hyper fixation on an ex girlfriend
She most likely didn’t give a tit about him, like most people and their exes. They were amicable but you know, behind the scenes I almost guarantee they were not that great…. He couldn’t have his son at his own house without his father, he had to have a chaperone everywhere when with Bear, he spent most of his time travelling and moved to a different country, the only special occasion he made sure to be with Bear for was only Christmas. He’s probably just an average deadbeat-ish dad that left Cheryl to pick up the pieces most days. He probably caused that woman a headache on the daily.I've been thinking about something similar. A lot of the social media posts I've seen, not just about faking his death but the other conspiracies as well (particularly Liam being murdered) appear to come from countries in N. America, S. America or Western/Southern Europe. Fans from elsewhere (including the UK and Ireland) seem to be able to accept that he had addiction and mental health issues and that's what ultimately lead to his death. Obviously there are fans in these countries who don't fit this pattern, but it does seem to fit that countries that appear more corrupt or whose governments aren't as trusted spawn these conspiracy theories. Or it's just the way my algorithms are feeding me stuff.Seriously, I think it’s because people don’t see celebrities as humans, and because they’re scared of their own mortality.
I need someone to do a study on whether the popularity of fake!death conspiracy theories is seen more or less in people who live in countries where death is more normalised (either through war / natural disasters, or because they have strong cultural traditions linked to their ancestors.
(So, yeah, just a small, easy PhD topic for someone there!)
Honestly, though, I’m convinced that fake!death conspiracy theorists will be concentrated in countries where there’s a poor understanding of and relationship with death.
Pretty sure a lot of people knew about the prostitutes within a day or two of his death. I definitely knew before Cheryl released her statement and I wasn't really following the situation closely at that point. As for Kate, she probably knew from the start and before Cheryl, especially if the "friend" who told her Liam had died was Roger or his girlfriend. The information that's been released over the past few days isn't really 'new' news. And Kate's not going to come out and call him a cheating b at this late stage.
Even if Cheryl did still care about him, it's clear that luckily she was able to separate Liam and his vulnerabilites from her primary responsibility to their son.
If she helped him behind the scenes, an even bigger pat on the back for her, but even if she didn't, she's still done the right thing for their son by not bad mouthing her son's father in a public capacity, whilst seemingly ensuring he has had consistent access to his paternal family, which is obviously the right thing for all the Paynes.
She's gone above and beyond, and will continue to do so, as B's sole parent now sadly
Roger can absolutely sit on a cactus as per Perez if he's expecting her to dip into B's trust to save his grandfather, only to gift it back to him under Rogers name, he's not responsible for Liam's death ultimately, but he can still be a damn tosser.
If she helped him behind the scenes, an even bigger pat on the back for her, but even if she didn't, she's still done the right thing for their son by not bad mouthing her son's father in a public capacity, whilst seemingly ensuring he has had consistent access to his paternal family, which is obviously the right thing for all the Paynes.
She's gone above and beyond, and will continue to do so, as B's sole parent now sadly
Roger can absolutely sit on a cactus as per Perez if he's expecting her to dip into B's trust to save his grandfather, only to gift it back to him under Rogers name, he's not responsible for Liam's death ultimately, but he can still be a damn tosser.
Rogers not doing himself any favours here. I understand why he wants an apology, but he's going about it the wrong way
This tit has got to stop
Firstly, no one's reading those posters. There's far too much information for someone casually walking past.
Secondly, who is this helping? Certainly not his family. It's implying they aren't doing a good enough job at "fighting for justice". I'd be raging if he was my brother.
The whole account is insane. There's plenty of ways fans can honour his memory, but this isn't it.
Firstly, no one's reading those posters. There's far too much information for someone casually walking past.
Secondly, who is this helping? Certainly not his family. It's implying they aren't doing a good enough job at "fighting for justice". I'd be raging if he was my brother.
The whole account is insane. There's plenty of ways fans can honour his memory, but this isn't it.
What did I just watch?!
The only positive thing I have to say about that is at least it's a decent photo of Liam, and could have potentially been far more upsetting.
They need to let it lie, if the Paynes aren't happy, they'll be taking the correct legal advice, this won't help.
So glad that Liam and Cheryl kept B's face private, as you can bet if that had been shown, he'd be plastered there alongside Liam for emotive purposes.
The obsessive conspiracy theorists can't and won't accept that Liam's death was a terrible accident, he wasn't murdered, he didn't fake his own death. His life is over. His memory is all that remains, and instead of cherishing his lyrics and his music, they are making a mockery of him. I feel sorry for them, and if my daughter or sister was behaving in such a bizarre way, I would be trying to stage an intervention. However, I also feel angry with them, for claiming Liam's death as something sinister, and making the dreadful tragedy all about them.
"Many thanks to those brave Argentinian girls for doing this".
I think, somewhere down the line, we've lost sight of the meaning of the word 'brave'.
The entire world is going to absolute tit, but these nutters are patting each other on the back for sellotaping conspiracy theories about a multimillionaire to a building. If someone presented Jesus with the wheel at this point, he'd just go 'nah, I'm good. Satan can drive this time'.
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They're trying to rile Roger and the conspiracy nuts up to get a response from them. Conflict = engagement.
Also, I despair for the state of journalism today. That whole piece reads like something I wrote for my college 'zine when I was doing my A Levels, it's bleeping horrendous.