Liam Payne #6

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So look like Kate has moved on keeps doing tiktoks with what she says is her best friend's boyfriend but all his posts are literally just about Kate .it's not even been a year yet

"it's not even been a year yet"
Maybe Liam should have thought "It's not even been four days yet" when he started shagging prostitutes after Kate left Argentina.

 

[wellingtonboots]

People slate her for it, but if my husband was a multi millionaire and wanted to give me £35k a month I wouldn’t say no lol

 

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Liam's family have released a new statement:

"Liam's death was an unspeakable tragedy. This is a time of tremendous grief and pain for those who knew and loved him. Liam ought to have had a long life ahead of him. Instead, Bear has lost his father, Geoff and Karen have lost their son, Ruth and Nicola have lost their brother and all of Liam's friends and fans have lost someone they held very dear.

"We understand that the investigation into Liam's death was absolutely necessary, and the family recognises the work done by the Argentinian authorities. However, the family accepts the Court of Appeal's decision to drop all charges.

"The constant media attention and speculation which has accompanied the process has exacted indescribable, lasting damage on the family, particularly on Liam's son who is trying to process emotions which no seven-year-old should have to experience.

"The family has always wished for privacy to grieve and asks that they be given the space and time to do so.

"This weekend, at the Brit Awards, Liam was remembered for his phenomenal contribution to British music and for his wider, positive impact on millions of adoring fans the world over. We joined in that celebration of his life and will forever remember the joy that his music brought to the world.

"Liam, you are so loved and missed."

Let's hope certain sections of society, not just the press, take heed and respect their wishes.

 

[KINGAA]

All charges have been dropped :/

As they bloody should… Roger was not there, he was not in charge of a grown adult man in his 30s. Hopefully these obsessed 1D twitter fans can finally start to realise that the boys are not innocent boys they have idolised on X Factor anymore and actions have consequences. Liam caused his own death by being reckless and irresponsible.

The problem was the hotel workers were not suppliers, they were getting drugs for him, there’s no justice for Liam or his family in any of them going to jail because it effects no one as he would’ve found them without their help anyways - the actual drug dealers are completely unaffected so the vicious cycle continues with someone else.

 

[Serene Serena]

Yesterday I posted how the headline said he "struggled with his identity"

https://www.archive.is/https://www....nce-death-insiders-make-bombshell-claims.html

Today it's "star's intimate encounter with male waiter"

https://www.archive.is/https://www..../liam-payne-addict-axe-maya-henry-waiter.html

Daily Mail appear to be insinuating lately that Liam wasn't hetrosexual.

And because he's no longer with us, he can't deny or confirm his sexuality. It's a very personal matter and there's absolutely nothing wrong with liking men and women. They make it sound like he was a grubby pervert, instead of a perfectly normal bisexual man - if that's what he was.

 

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Liam's sister's insta post today She's clearly heartbroken, poor woman. Siblings often get forgotten following a death. I hope they're all getting the support they need.

Has anyone listened to the latest Jay Shetty podcast with Kate that was released today? It's over an hour long so if it's more of the same I won't bother.

 

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Despite the musician turning to drink and drugs after she fled Argentina, she believes he had been in a "good headspace" when she left.

Bull shit. I didn't know him and even I could see he was far from being in a "good headspace". He was clearly drunk and/or high for most of the trip.
Why is everyone trying to make out like he was sober until she left?

 

[MammaTubbs]

I just feel a bit indifferent about it to be honest.
She didn't say anything horrifying, and there's nothing bad there for his son to look back on bar the fact that he did seem to be either longer term or permanently moving to Florida, which he was probably aware of to some extent anyway.

To an extent she's also verified Geoff's version of events by making it clear she did love him, and wasn't some glorified carer also providing a bedroom service.

Sadly I think we'll see far worse in the trial and lawsuit than anything Kate has or may divulge, she's set her line now with she knew he had issues but was currently in a good place etc, and whilst it may not be the whole truth she's probably trying to protect herself and also protect Liam's memory too, which I won't hold against her as plenty of us have some sort of blinkers on when it comes to our nearest and dearest.

 

[KINGAA]

Anyone wondering if Cheryl knew about the prostitutes from the start, which prompted her to protect Liams memory and their son with her don’t even post/print what you have to say post? Love how fierce she is about protecting Liam and bear. And wondering if Kate will continue with her I love you Liam posts and tats now it’s actually in print what happened with the ‘ladies’

Why would Cheryl know???? or even care. It’s quite literally nothing to do with her. They broke up 6/7 years ago and moved on. He was with Kate and Maya longer. She’s protecting Bear, not Liam. Bear will one day find out there’s photos of his dad’s body on the internet thanks to the press. He will have access to information that in a normal world is kept private for the family inquest.

I just don’t get this hyper fixation on an ex girlfriend She most likely didn’t give a shit about him, like most people and their exes. They were amicable but you know, behind the scenes I almost guarantee they were not that great…. He couldn’t have his son at his own house without his father, he had to have a chaperone everywhere when with Bear, he spent most of his time travelling and moved to a different country, the only special occasion he made sure to be with Bear for was only Christmas. He’s probably just an average deadbeat-ish dad that left Cheryl to pick up the pieces most days. He probably caused that woman a headache on the daily.

 

[Chinese_whispers]

I still can’t believe he’s dead.

 

[Ridandroo]

I think the right thing to do would be for Cheryl to give the family some of the money intended for bear. Liam would've wanted them to have money to support them and their kids, not just bear. He was close to his family and it's clear they never exploited him like some of the other boys siblings. Even if she can't access the money until bears 18, she could easily do it herself from her own money. Maybe I'm being too naive but she will most likely have more money than the Paynes combined and it won't hurt her to help them. It's not like she or bear will be struggling when he's 18

She doesn’t have to give them a penny. If he did want that, he would have written a will. He even stated himself that everything would go to Bear. Cheryl is well off enough to provide for Bear without Liam’s money anyway. I’m sure his family have already been looked after financially.

 

[LittlePea]

I find it weird the papers kept saying how Cheryl had paved the way for the other 1D boys to reconcile at Liams wake back at his house, I kinda think it was PR spin for her though because Im sure the boys wouldn't need her to bring them together at the wake which was in a private place.

Also having gone down a rabbit hole of his relationships - I agree I think he loved Cheryl as mother of his child plus she seems a good mum keeping their son out of the limelight, albeit she seems a bit controlling on the whole Bear front and reading between the lines in many of Liams interviews once they splut I get the feelign that she is very controlling and makes the decisions. When he got with Mya he said in a few interviews his last relationship - Cheryl was with someone who cared far too much about how she came across and with papparrazzi etc and he was so happy to be with someone more carefree who he could go out and enjoy himself with and be free not caring about paps etc. He also spoke of how they disagreed on bears name - he wanted traditional she wanted unusual and hes called bear. He wants privace but is also more open to posting and talking whereas she isnt, he was open about their relationship too and there is many stories of her being angry at him for saying too much in interviews etc. Given her history of also being bossy with her exes and moving her mum in, I really don't see their relationship being the amazing fairytale that would have gave him the happy ending and life he desired. I stand by what I have said before in previous posts - she saw an opportunity with him and took it to have a child, and once she got what she wanted - Bear, she didn't really care if it worked out with Liam or not. Imo he would have been better matched with someone in the normal world - many articles in 1D early days he often talked of eventually marrying and kids, I think his failure to find a thriving and fulfilly life (which inluded the stepford family life with white picket fence) beyond 1D and the fake world of fame will have contributed to his mental health, not been the sole factor but I believe his lack of family life with his son and lack of an actual family life byond his parents and siblings (who all have loving partners they married and started a family with) contributed to his depression etc. Cheryl was not the best person to pro-create with as they were never going to have the family life he seemd to crave - she wanted sole control of parenting and a nice home with her mum and brother, perhaps she wanted him as part of it but I doubt he wanted her mum with them 24/7. I think initially he hoped for her to come with him to usa abd be a mother/housewife while he woked on his solo career but cheryl is not into the usa life and being away from home (UK). He said in multiple interviews and podcasts about her living out there in his calabassas home when pregnant but again she couldnt be an adult and be with her partner alone, he talked of her mum being there too. She was never going to substain a relationship with anyone with her mother around all the time, but like i said, I beleive she didn't care for a long term relationship with him or anyone once she got her goal - a baby. I also feel she needs to watch and not become one of they toxic boy moms - the way she has said in interviews she doesnt need a valentine as her son is her dream man, when asked another time when somthing happnes who the 1st person she would call and she says "me son as he always has something to say" its kind of creepy. She will probably be the type to not like his gf or partners as it is competition for her time and affection. He had 2 major relationships after her that lasted a few years each and Maya he was even engaged to yet they never met his son. Super weird. When you have split and move on then you have to accept that your ex will have a new partner that will become a step parent to your child but I bet cheryl would not allow any one else access or to be involved.

As for Maya - I stilll dont believe everything she alleges. I do believe they had a toxic relationship but I think she was just as toxic as him. He was no angel but he was not what she is making him out to be. she is another amber heard & blake livey, fabricating stories cos people will blindly beleive all women despite NO evidence! If you go down the rabbit hole of her she was with Austin Mahone for a long time and at one point was seeing both him and Liam at same time. There are runours she ruined what little career he had left once they split but also many allegations and time stamps in her book are linked to her time with him and not Liam. She would never get the "fame" or attention on her book with it being based on multiple ex boyfirneds or just Austin himself, she will only get the attention with saying it is based on Liam. There is no way to prove what she is saying is truth or for him to prove she is lying so she can say what she wants. Abortions are a tablet these days unless she was quite far along then it would be surgical so that part of her story is either full lie or fabricated. Given his nature I doubt he would so callously leave her just bleeding, he could easily have her taken to hospital and none of it would come out because it is against both UK and USA law to publicly declare someones health issues hence many of Liams previous substance od's etc have been announced as kidney issues and such.

I actually like Kate's tik tok she seemd genuine. The interview wasnt so good but she is not used to them, she is more used to the shorter vlogs/tik tok reels that she can curate herself so could have been nerves etc.

‘People will blindly believe all women’ yet you are blindly believing Liam couldnt have done terrible things as a partner? Hardly anyone believes Blake Lively or Amber Heard so that’s just not true is it? Let’s face it, very very rarely is a man’s career ruined after a woman accuses them of something.

Your part about the abortion doesn’t make sense, what would she be lying about? You can have reactions, complications and bleed heavily regardless of whether you have a medical or surgical abortion and If he didn’t want her to go in for surgical, it could have been because he didn’t want the public to see and say, not because he thought a Dr would publicly declare it.

It’s SO textbook of abuse to say ‘he had such a great nature, he was was so kind to everyone, he couldn’t possibly have been like that’ because that’s quite literally how they get away with it and why the person who was abused is rarely believed.

 

[MammaTubbs]

Awh Liam

I hope he's finally at peace now, and he didn't deserve his fate, nor did his loved ones.

This is our time I guess, with everything going on politically, culturally, socially.

I know we can't change the world, but what he's taught me is what I should have maybe known all along, check in with those close to you, if you're that worried go one further and check in with those potentially even closer them.

From one millennial working class British soul to another, rest in peace Liam

 

[Keet]

If he was gay, bi or struggling with his sexuality in any way it feels a bit wrong that he’s being outed now that he isn’t here.

 

[sam0206]

"I had to text his sister. She didn't know at the time". You couldn't have called?

Yeah or call liams parents or his parents, whoever makes him related to them so liams sister could have heard it from her mum or dad. I felt the whole post was just me me me even saying that he missed a call from liam...was that just to point out that they were in communication with each other

 

[KYLIE]

Ex-PR here, she would have known Q's beforehand. That's standard anyway for interviews like this.

Obv she wants to maintain her life of luxury (she has like 20k of Cartier jewellery on in this interview lmao) and her team were probably pitching this interview to the highest bidder. We will probably see her return to social media, she won't do this then fade away, that's for sure..

 

[Ridandroo]

So Kate’s sold out! To the sun off all outlets.

 

[Momobeano]

The tribute was lovely. The guys did the right thing by not coming together at The Brits for a tribute to Liam—it would’ve diminished the significance and gravity of the tribute.

 

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Roger has finally dropped the case against Geoff.

Liam Payne's Friend Roger Nores Withdraws Defamation Lawsuit Against Singer's Dad

Liam Payne's friend Roger Nores has pulled his lawsuit against the late singer’s father, Geoff Payne, for defamation.

www.rollingstone.com

Hopefully this is truly the end of the mudslinging.

 

[MammaTubbs]

I honestly can't imagine being in the position of the Payne family.

They've done Liam proud acting with dignity and restraint, and of course all the help it looks like they tried to give him in the years preceeding as well.