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Yeah I’m really not sure what transhumanism has to do with LGB topics to be honest.
 
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I tell you what I find weird is people calling themselves ally and I also found it distasteful that a disabled man was being touted as a quick feel good moment

@HockyRorror Thank you for sharing link to document and screenshot of past post this is new to me I’m still trying to make sense of it
 
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I tell you what I find weird is people calling themselves ally and I also found it distasteful that a disabled man was being touted as a quick feel good moment
What was life-affirming about that article was not the fact that the guy was disabled but his description of the momentous effect his first Pride march had on his self-esteem as a newly-out gay man.
 
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My first post on this thread. I'm a straight ally to lgb (and t) and try to support wherever I can.
I wanted to share this article on a gay disabled guy's first Pride. It's touching, and life-affirming

the article I posted which was about a gay guy with cerebral palsy's first Pride march


The initial post about article highlights the fact man is disabled as does the second to my mind this persons story and their disability is being touted as a quick feel good moment that’s my opinion

I’d like to think it’s pure coincidence that particular story was chosen as “life affirming” and disability highlighted in good faith but I could be wrong
 
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My first post on this thread. I'm a straight ally to lgb (and t) and try to support wherever I can.
I wanted to share this article on a gay disabled guy's first Pride. It's touching, and life-affirming

the article I posted which was about a gay guy with cerebral palsy's first Pride march


The initial post about article highlights the fact man is disabled as does the second to my mind this persons story and their disability is being touted as a quick feel good moment that’s my opinion

I’d like to think it’s pure coincidence that particular story was chosen as “life affirming” and disability highlighted in good faith but I could be wrong
I'm an ally of disabled people too. And Black people. But also, importantly for this thread, lgb. I was saying hello on this thread and having just that morning read the article, I posted it. It isn't the most stunningly informative article anyone's ever posted on a thread but hey, who cares. That guy happens to experience two forms of potential societal discrimination instead of one.
 
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@OwlAtTheMoon I read the Guardian article it was interesting to read so thank you for posting

The story of Emmett ends in love happily ever after with his husband and a dog which is wonderful for him after having such a difficult childhood


Emmett de Monterey was diagnosed as having cerebral palsy soon after birth. Now 14 he has undergone two major operations in America, learnt to walk twice, and been the subject of two BBC documentaries. This is his father's story of the family's determination and courage.


Emmett de Monterey is a trained psychotherapist. He lives in London with his husband and their dog.

 
@OwlAtTheMoon I read the Guardian article it was interesting to read so thank you for posting

The story of Emmett ends in love happily ever after with his husband and a dog which is wonderful for him after having such a difficult childhood


Emmett de Monterey was diagnosed as having cerebral palsy soon after birth. Now 14 he has undergone two major operations in America, learnt to walk twice, and been the subject of two BBC documentaries. This is his father's story of the family's determination and courage.


Emmett de Monterey is a trained psychotherapist. He lives in London with his husband and their dog.

Glad you're now happy with the article and its subject. 👍
 
Yeah I’m really not sure what transhumanism has to do with LGB topics to be honest.
To an extent it does, but I think it does deserve a wider discussion and own thread. It transcends (lol) further than LGB and TQ
 
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“Cis” woman (she describes herself as such according the article, not my words) took a gay men’s business to court, challenged rules to a men’s nude resort because it previously didn’t allow any female visitors after 9pm, says she had or has no plans to ever visit it, but feels “vindicated” by the judge’s result of overturning it and forcing it to be heterosexual from now on. Hope she is proud of her progressive and homophobic 2023 stance 👍🏽



“I fully support them having safe spaces that are welcoming. I don’t want to go to outer space either, but if someone suddenly said no women were allowed in space, I’d be first to join the protest.” Wtf?
 
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“Cis” woman (she describes herself as such according the article, not my words) took a gay men’s business to court, challenged rules to a men’s nude resort because it previously didn’t allow any female visitors after 9pm, says she had or has no plans to ever visit it, but feels “vindicated” by the judge’s result of overturning it and forcing it to be heterosexual from now on. Hope she is proud of her progressive and homophobic 2023 stance 👍🏽



“I fully support them having safe spaces that are welcoming. I don’t want to go to outer space either, but if someone suddenly said no women were allowed in space, I’d be first to join the protest.” Wtf?
Is this case possibly more about transgender people as in engineered to have female at the front but it’s multi purpose covers all genders person identifies as?


In an order issued on June 30, Administrative Law Judge Brittany Finkbeiner recommended that the Florida Commission on Human Relations should find that the New Orleans House “engaged in unlawful discrimination” when it prohibited Amina Chaudhry from making a reservation in July 2022.

Chaudhry, a 38-year-old cisgender woman who identifies as a member of the LGBTQ community, previously filed a complaint with the commission alleging that the resort’s policies discriminate against cisgender women and transgender and nonbinary people. The New Orleans House’s policy requires guests to be “adult males 18 years of age or over only.”

Chaudhry told The Messenger she hopes the ruling will ensure other businesses aren’t allowed to discriminate against anyone, and implied her complaint may have broader implications, especially for members of the transgender community, who may experience discrimination in public accommodations.


“The implication is if [New Orleans House is] allowed to discriminate against any genders they don’t want coming in there, then any other place of public accommodations can do the same thing,” she said.
 
Hello folks…been lurking a while!

I was thinking today about how I don’t feel at all comfortable at Pride events- it feels so commercial and identikit and lacking any real charisma. It doesn’t feel like a community so much as a bunch of people all dressing and behaving the same way, ironically undiverse really. Why can’t these events accommodate a wider range of interests within the scene besides belting out shyte 90s has-been pop acts and crap stand-up?

I get the significance of the flag, but I’ve never been keen on being represented by a cliched symbol and latterly it seems almost like a mindless uniform. Given I’m even supposedly part of that community and sick of seeing it I do wonder if it’s going to be counterproductive generally.

I feel kind of a freak in this 🤣 so am very curious to know how many others feel it. I know I sound a bit ‘old person yelling at clouds’ and I’ve enjoyed LGB club nights and bars, but Pride events do nothing for me whatsoever…I don’t find them empowering or affirming, I find them overpowering and depressing.
 
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“Cis” woman (she describes herself as such according the article, not my words) took a gay men’s business to court, challenged rules to a men’s nude resort because it previously didn’t allow any female visitors after 9pm, says she had or has no plans to ever visit it, but feels “vindicated” by the judge’s result of overturning it and forcing it to be heterosexual from now on. Hope she is proud of her progressive and homophobic 2023 stance 👍🏽



“I fully support them having safe spaces that are welcoming. I don’t want to go to outer space either, but if someone suddenly said no women were allowed in space, I’d be first to join the protest.” Wtf?
Not only bizarre, but also pointless, considering no woman (including her) is going to want to share a space populated by nude gay men. The judge should have filed it under 'vexatious' and thrown it out.
 
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My first post on this thread. I'm a straight ally to lgb (and t) and try to support wherever I can.
I wanted to share this article on a gay disabled guy's first Pride. It's touching, and life-affirming

the article I posted which was about a gay guy with cerebral palsy's first Pride march


The initial post about article highlights the fact man is disabled as does the second to my mind this persons story and their disability is being touted as a quick feel good moment that’s my opinion

I’d like to think it’s pure coincidence that particular story was chosen as “life affirming” and disability highlighted in good faith but I could be wrong
I’m disabled and honestly I dread these kinds of article. They too often frame disability as something you ‘should’ overcome with superhuman effort, (which guilt-trips people who can’t), and they often portray disabled people in order to make non disabled people feel good by comparison. It’s often also a bit icky and infantilising and invites pity (which is different to empathy or identification).

It’s not life-affirming to the individual in the article because they already have a life. Hard to articulate as it’s a somewhat fiddly distinction.
 
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Hello folks…been lurking a while!

I was thinking today about how I don’t feel at all comfortable at Pride events- it feels so commercial and identikit and lacking any real charisma. It doesn’t feel like a community so much as a bunch of people all dressing and behaving the same way, ironically undiverse really. Why can’t these events accommodate a wider range of interests within the scene besides belting out shyte 90s has-been pop acts and crap stand-up?

I get the significance of the flag, but I’ve never been keen on being represented by a cliched symbol and latterly it seems almost like a mindless uniform. Given I’m even supposedly part of that community and sick of seeing it I do wonder if it’s going to be counterproductive generally.

I feel kind of a freak in this 🤣 so am very curious to know how many others feel it. I know I sound a bit ‘old person yelling at clouds’ and I’ve enjoyed LGB club nights and bars, but Pride events do nothing for me whatsoever…I don’t find them empowering or affirming, I find them overpowering and depressing.
I think it's obviously fine for you to feel that way. Lots of les and gay people don't particularly like Pride and feel a bit "out of the community". But that's because it's always been a large amount of people from a variety of backgrounds and hence it would be 100% impossible to find any event that worked for everyone.

One suggestion might be to attend some smaller Pride events. You'd be surprised at the amount of new Pride festivals that are sparking up in smaller and more rural communities. They're usually not as commercial. You may find they're more your thing. Nothing ventured and all that.

I'm not a massive scene person either, but I have enjoyed most Pride events I've been to. Mostly because they feel happy and carefree. And I do like 90s/00s trashy pop. 😂
 
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Regarding pride, the one in Glasgow is next Saturday and I'm planning to go along but I'll be very interested to see how it turns out given the last 12 months. Last year was a bit split - the lesbians and gays seemed to be out and celebrating, but there was an uncomfortable level of campaigning/militancy from the trans marchers. It felt like they were marching for two different things.

I hope to dear god that nobody acts like an utter fool like at some other prides, I do think it's an event that should stay PG-13, no need for anything overtly vulgar IMO. And certainly nothing like that old guy twerking in America - that was disgusting and he should be condemned by the community.
 
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I’m disabled and honestly I dread these kinds of article. They too often frame disability as something you ‘should’ overcome with superhuman effort, (which guilt-trips people who can’t), and they often portray disabled people in order to make non disabled people feel good by comparison. It’s often also a bit icky and infantilising and invites pity (which is different to empathy or identification).
I could more understand this viewpoint if the article had been written about Emmett, but it was written by him. I certainly didn't think it was about overcoming his disability, but more that he wasn't ashamed of it anymore, which in turn doesn't invite pity (in my opinion at least).
 
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I could more understand this viewpoint if the article had been written about Emmett, but it was written by him

For the record Emmett is writing about himself in a Guardian series where other writers do the same

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