Laura Clery

[Brian Butterfield]

He's now claiming that she deleted everything herself in order for it be restored before her book release

Stranger things have happened, but we all saw the screenshots he took, which clearly showed him logged in as Laura.

For someone who thinks they're this great evolved mind, he's not very bright.

 

[Anastasia B]

Never said she should shut up. At all. Also I never mentioned the impact on him visa via the kids I was literally just talking about the kids seeing it in the future and how it could impact them. Just because he's slating her doesnt mean she has to retaliate I get that she wants to but shes got so much support anyway she doesnt actually have to "defend" herself cuz everyone knows he's a wrong en. It must be exhausting for her aswell constantly to havi g respond to his abuse in her personal life and the online which is technically her work life. Just my thoughts on it. Can see it from all sides though

Or maybe we can look at another way and Steven can stop and think of his children and their mother. I think hes enjoying all the attention even though its bad..I wonder can he not be entered into a rehab facility or a 50/50 mental facility.

 

[clairelouise2]

He's now claiming that she deleted everything herself in order for it be restored before her book release

Must think his followers are stupid to buy that

 

[maee]

Or maybe we can look at another way and Steven can stop and think of his children and their mother. I think hes enjoying all the attention even though its bad..I wonder can he not be entered into a rehab facility or a 50/50 mental facility.

He probably could- however it's very clear that he is in the middle of a mental breakdown/active addiction and at the point you don't stop and think clearly. Whereas Laura is mentally stable currently and with that comes the ability to make informed decisions.

5150s are alot harder to get in the US. From what he's said (and we know his version of events can be wildly different) he offered to go to rehab but wanted assurance from Laura that she would not use his going to rehab against him in future court proceedings- as going to rehab would mean he's admitting there is a problem.

 

[smellyfootballboots]

I get that posting is her way to make money but there's so many other things she can post about. I just feel like the kids are going to see these videos in years time of her saying he's this that and the other which yeah he is and she should absolutely be able express her opinion and talk about the abuse she endured but i think when kids are involved you have to go about things differently tbh. On tik tok some one said "Laura you need to go to a women's shelter" like shes gunna move out of her mansion . Also if she wanted to go somewhere safe id hazard a guess she has the money to go somewhere a bit luxury or a different country or whatever which most people dont have. Im not saying thats a good thing that she has to do that at all but all these people on tiktok who are saying they've been through abuse so support her does wind me up a bit because the difference is she has the privilege to make herself safe (the money to get away) which is a luxury a lot of people dont have and I feel like shes taking the piss a bit still putting her kids online and sharing her location online. Abuse is abuse no matter how much money you have and being in an abusive relationship is awful but I dunno i feel like she's not thinking 100 percent clear and maybe people around her should be having a word. . My two pence anyway

As much as I am 100% sure he was (and still is) abusive. I think she is also 'playing' the victim. There is something definitely off with how she is responding to what is going on. Now it could be that finally she has the upper hand in a situation that has been volatile for years and feels like she can gloat a little. However, her particular ex is a raging, narcissistic, junkie and she needs to not let that ego get the better of her.

I have been in that situation. You are running on your nerves 24/7. It is all consuming.

 

[Rinoachicken]

He’s now recruiting ‘followers’ to his new cult (the Arc) he calls them ‘the needed’. Screenshots on his page of him purchasing blindfolds and knives, calling Laura Satan and the Devil.

 

[Rinoachicken]

Some recent snapshots from his channels

 

[Justhereforthedrama]

i actually asked chat gpt if it has safeguards in pace and i described this situation. It said he will be talking to an unregulated AI because chatgot has this pattern recognition stuff in that detects mental illness.

 

[Rinoachicken]

I was wondering about that

 

[smellyfootballboots]

Some recent snapshots from his channels

The ramblings of an insane mind.

 

[Anastasia B]

Stranger things have happened, but we all saw the screenshots he took, which clearly showed him logged in as Laura.

For someone who thinks they're this great evolved mind, he's not very bright.

They never are....

 

[smellyfootballboots]

He is never going to admit that the drugs are the problem. It is really, very sad.

I think when he started filming himself taking drugs on his social media, he left her with no choice but to stop him seeing them until he got clean, she would have been advised to get the RO. If she hadn't of put a stop to things at that point, I'm pretty sure she would have been at risk of losing the children herself for being an irresponsible parent.

I wonder if he has always refused to see how his actions, cause other people's reactions? If he hadn't of done the drugs, he wouldn't have lost access to the kids. It's a black and white situation and he refuses to acknowledge that

And this post still reads as threatening?

 

[Anastasia B]

I think im going to call him Mr. Brightside.... He really should get a solicitor because theyll tell him the same thing stop the drugs, seek treatment and im sure a judge would be happy to Laura full custody. I don't think she could trust him not to so drugs when he had the kids...

 

[MaryLou32]

It’s very threatening and manipulative, as if he is the innocent good guy but he is willing to forgive her. What a saint.
And yes the threat of ‘last chance’ ‘only if I’m forced’ he is a classic narcissist with delusions of grandeur and a master of gaslighting. Or attempted gaslighting at least!

 

[Anastasia B]

It’s very threatening and manipulative, as if he is the innocent good guy but he is willing to forgive her. What a saint.
And yes the threat of ‘last chance’ ‘only if I’m forced’ he is a classic narcissist with delusions of grandeur and a master of gaslighting. Or attempted gaslighting at least!

He's actually textbook isn't he... he doesn't have the intelligence to try disguise it...

 

[supershark]

Never said she should shut up. At all. Also I never mentioned the impact on him visa via the kids I was literally just talking about the kids seeing it in the future and how it could impact them. Just because he's slating her doesnt mean she has to retaliate I get that she wants to but shes got so much support anyway she doesnt actually have to "defend" herself cuz everyone knows he's a wrong en. It must be exhausting for her aswell constantly to havi g respond to his abuse in her personal life and the online which is technically her work life. Just my thoughts on it. Can see it from all sides though

Unless you’re in her shoes, no one is in a position to judge. You may not have meant it this way but your comments come off as victim blaming.

As a child of a man much like Steven, there is simply no “protecting” them from knowing who their dad is. It’s unavoidable and they should know! He is dangerous.

Personally, I WISH my mom wasn’t as silent as she was for so long. Laura is standing up for herself, bringing awareness to insidious narc abuse and not living under the very heavy veil of silence most abuse victims live under because they watch individuals criticize other victims as they navigate their way out of abusive relationships. Victims don’t need blame or judgement — they need compassion.

 

[smellyfootballboots]

It’s very threatening and manipulative, as if he is the innocent good guy but he is willing to forgive her. What a saint.
And yes the threat of ‘last chance’ ‘only if I’m forced’ he is a classic narcissist with delusions of grandeur and a master of gaslighting. Or attempted gaslighting at least!

I've been in a very abusive relationship with a man like Stephen, they make you feel like you are losing your mind. I really am pleased she is out of the abuse cycle. He will never stop until he finds another victim.

 

[MaryLou32]

The insta posts today- he married ‘beneath him’
What a bitter, delusional human he is.
Obviously she hasn’t acquiesced to his recent ‘truce’ rit. So here he goes.

 

[smellyfootballboots]

The insta posts today- he married ‘beneath him’
What a bitter, delusional human he is.
Obviously she hasn’t acquiesced to his recent ‘truce’ rit. So here he goes.

Yeah, a 30 year old, alcoholic, junkie who can't spell, is such a catch! Right? He is a class A abuser, always has been. He maybe, doesn't physically abuse them, but mental and emotional abuse is far worse, in the long term.

 

[WickedThread]

Yeah, a 30 year old, alcoholic, junkie who can't spell, is such a catch! Right? He is a class A abuser, always has been. He maybe, doesn't physically abuse them, but mental and emotional abuse is far worse, in the long term.

*cough51cough*

His own Church?
That’s all I need to know exactly what sort of individual he his.
perhaps he’s not quite as abusive to his children as that creepy gif Brian Johnson is (the one mining his eldest son for blood plasma and making the poor gosson record record his, err “emissions”), Warren Jeffs, Rev Jim Jones etc…yet. YET. But unfettered access to them as they get older and less compliant is not going to end well for them.