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Rinoachicken
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I’ve followed these two since before Alfie was born. He’s very obviously been unwell for quite some time but is anti-anything that would actually help. I’m sad but not surprised it’s come to this.
For the last year or so we’ve seen Laura struggle with PND - she continued to meet with her sponsor, went to meetings, reached out for support and took antidepressants for a while, focussed on her well-being and came through it.
Stephen has also struggled, he clearly has an earring disorder but refuses to believe that, doesn’t go to meetings, doesn’t have a sponsor, refused to even consider antidepressants for his quite obvious depression.
You could see them moving further and further apart as she appeared relatively stable and in a good place mentally, and he was the opposite. She’s a ‘let’s talk about it’ sort of person and he’s not, but she seems to be unable to accept that. I get that it’s frustrating when someone won’t community even but still, in her desperation she went to far at times. On the flip side, he was posting these very personal message on his channels, sharing things about his mental state that really he should have been sharing with either his wife or someone else in real life. He was clearly struggling massively but seems to be in delusional world of ‘I’m fine and I am going to help all you online fans.’ It’s become an obsession for him, and I wonder if he’s become addicted to SM and the unquestioning validation he gets from fans - which feels easier than real life.
So basically he tried to take his life last week, has blamed her for his mental state, and it’s been confirmed today they are separating. He is now podcasting everyday about it all. She did one podcast in response to his initial one where he said he tried to take his life and that she’d pushed him to it, and he told her he wanted her to do a post as it was the only way they can communicate. she didn’t look comfortable at all doing it. From listening to both their accounts it sounds like she has known something has been wrong for a while but he won’t talk to her or anyone else and has not been going to meetings or had a sponsor, refusing to take responsibility for his own recovery. He freely admits that he just wants to talk to his fans online - not anyone in real life (because it’s ‘easier’). Of course it is! You are talking into an echo chamber and no one is challenging your thinking - which when you are unwell is NOT a good thing! On the day in question they both say they argued about the future of their relationship - he blamed her for him wanting to kill himself, other things happened that are not disclosed but which resulted in her calling the police (and her sponsor for support) and him driving off.
She has now (rightly imo) decided she can’t do it anymore - she is focussing on her kids (who they decided a while back now would no longer feature in their content - good decision I think) and is instead concentrating on her own well-being and recovery in all this. She’s said she’s stepping back from making content for a while. She said in her podcast she knows she can’t fix him - only he can accept the help and do the work, and that she can only look after herself and make sure she stays well and her children stay protected and safe. She’s right.
He’s now isolated himself completely by his own admission, podcasts everyday. He has found a sponsor now at least and is now attending meetings. But he’s just rambling everyday and talking about how he wants to help people by sharing everyday, asking people what they want him to focus on content wise, pushing his new Patreaon for his music to get an income. Honestly he needs to step away from the internet and prioritise on his recovery. It saddens me to hear the way he is talking right now and the approach he seems to be taking - talking into the internet everyday random people from his self imposed isolation and not talking to people in the real world who can actually help and who actually care about him. He’s doesnt seem to be taking any accountability for his own recovery, is lamenting how he hopes it wont affect his kids (of course it will!), is blaming Laura and has said not one word about acknowledging the impact it will have had on her or their families and friends. He has zero self awareness and is so clearly unwell right now and I think she is absolutely making the right choice here to split and focus on herself and the kids - and leaving him to sort his own shit out…or not.
Apologies for the typos!
For the last year or so we’ve seen Laura struggle with PND - she continued to meet with her sponsor, went to meetings, reached out for support and took antidepressants for a while, focussed on her well-being and came through it.
Stephen has also struggled, he clearly has an earring disorder but refuses to believe that, doesn’t go to meetings, doesn’t have a sponsor, refused to even consider antidepressants for his quite obvious depression.
You could see them moving further and further apart as she appeared relatively stable and in a good place mentally, and he was the opposite. She’s a ‘let’s talk about it’ sort of person and he’s not, but she seems to be unable to accept that. I get that it’s frustrating when someone won’t community even but still, in her desperation she went to far at times. On the flip side, he was posting these very personal message on his channels, sharing things about his mental state that really he should have been sharing with either his wife or someone else in real life. He was clearly struggling massively but seems to be in delusional world of ‘I’m fine and I am going to help all you online fans.’ It’s become an obsession for him, and I wonder if he’s become addicted to SM and the unquestioning validation he gets from fans - which feels easier than real life.
So basically he tried to take his life last week, has blamed her for his mental state, and it’s been confirmed today they are separating. He is now podcasting everyday about it all. She did one podcast in response to his initial one where he said he tried to take his life and that she’d pushed him to it, and he told her he wanted her to do a post as it was the only way they can communicate. she didn’t look comfortable at all doing it. From listening to both their accounts it sounds like she has known something has been wrong for a while but he won’t talk to her or anyone else and has not been going to meetings or had a sponsor, refusing to take responsibility for his own recovery. He freely admits that he just wants to talk to his fans online - not anyone in real life (because it’s ‘easier’). Of course it is! You are talking into an echo chamber and no one is challenging your thinking - which when you are unwell is NOT a good thing! On the day in question they both say they argued about the future of their relationship - he blamed her for him wanting to kill himself, other things happened that are not disclosed but which resulted in her calling the police (and her sponsor for support) and him driving off.
She has now (rightly imo) decided she can’t do it anymore - she is focussing on her kids (who they decided a while back now would no longer feature in their content - good decision I think) and is instead concentrating on her own well-being and recovery in all this. She’s said she’s stepping back from making content for a while. She said in her podcast she knows she can’t fix him - only he can accept the help and do the work, and that she can only look after herself and make sure she stays well and her children stay protected and safe. She’s right.
He’s now isolated himself completely by his own admission, podcasts everyday. He has found a sponsor now at least and is now attending meetings. But he’s just rambling everyday and talking about how he wants to help people by sharing everyday, asking people what they want him to focus on content wise, pushing his new Patreaon for his music to get an income. Honestly he needs to step away from the internet and prioritise on his recovery. It saddens me to hear the way he is talking right now and the approach he seems to be taking - talking into the internet everyday random people from his self imposed isolation and not talking to people in the real world who can actually help and who actually care about him. He’s doesnt seem to be taking any accountability for his own recovery, is lamenting how he hopes it wont affect his kids (of course it will!), is blaming Laura and has said not one word about acknowledging the impact it will have had on her or their families and friends. He has zero self awareness and is so clearly unwell right now and I think she is absolutely making the right choice here to split and focus on herself and the kids - and leaving him to sort his own shit out…or not.
Apologies for the typos!
lilykestrel
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Fuck me Steve-o, maybe leave out Russell Brand's compliments on your comedic genius 
Bristolgirl
Chatty Member
I think they’re both pretentious, self obsessed twats.
ScottishMammy92
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As someone with an addic parent this is really terrifying.
My parent would behave the same way. Relapse, spiral, disappear and then rant either by text message or posting on Facebook.
The rants would become more and more unhinged. They'd make no sense grammatically and it would need to be deciphered.
The narrative they would create really scared us as kids. Because it would be completely untrue. But the way it was written and told we struggled to argue against it. Total lies told about almost every family member accusing innocent people of the worst things. Of domestic violence, sexual assault, faking pregnancies. You name it this person would accuse you of things so terrible that from the outside looking in you could understand why people would think surely no one would make this up.
Then the threats would come. False reports to police. Reports to social services.
They'd inevitably end up back in treatment. Then they'd come home and as children we were expected to welcome them and pat them on the back for being sober again.
The best thing for those children is to be nowhere near him if he's in active addiction. I can say that from experience. The adults in our lives should have protected us better and if Laura needs to share his behaviour publicly in order to be taken seriously and protect her children that's what she should do.
I no longer have a relationship with either parent. They're not together anymore and the addict parent is still continually posting lies and abuse about people on social media. The difference is now people know its just them spiralling.
I sincerely hope he gets the help he needs but unless he can acknowledge he has addiction issues and he wants to change then sadly it won't work. And as the child of an addict I'd much rather have grown up without that parent than being exposed to their behaviour.
My parent would behave the same way. Relapse, spiral, disappear and then rant either by text message or posting on Facebook.
The rants would become more and more unhinged. They'd make no sense grammatically and it would need to be deciphered.
The narrative they would create really scared us as kids. Because it would be completely untrue. But the way it was written and told we struggled to argue against it. Total lies told about almost every family member accusing innocent people of the worst things. Of domestic violence, sexual assault, faking pregnancies. You name it this person would accuse you of things so terrible that from the outside looking in you could understand why people would think surely no one would make this up.
Then the threats would come. False reports to police. Reports to social services.
They'd inevitably end up back in treatment. Then they'd come home and as children we were expected to welcome them and pat them on the back for being sober again.
The best thing for those children is to be nowhere near him if he's in active addiction. I can say that from experience. The adults in our lives should have protected us better and if Laura needs to share his behaviour publicly in order to be taken seriously and protect her children that's what she should do.
I no longer have a relationship with either parent. They're not together anymore and the addict parent is still continually posting lies and abuse about people on social media. The difference is now people know its just them spiralling.
I sincerely hope he gets the help he needs but unless he can acknowledge he has addiction issues and he wants to change then sadly it won't work. And as the child of an addict I'd much rather have grown up without that parent than being exposed to their behaviour.
Brian Butterfield
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He's a truly heinous person. A massive narcissist that is spiralling rapidly because he's completely lost all control, so will stop at nothing to fuck up her life and happiness.
Justhereforthedrama
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I'm glad there is a thread here, I just see him escalating and escalating and now his stories are about how he is 'the luckiest guy in the world' because of his 'online communities'. (which he cant say because he's slurring). I feel so sad for Laura. I feel like hes going to do something stupid.
Im most worried about the videos where he's talking with AI and its pretty much saying he should start up a quasi-religious following and validating him. Imagine consequences of this on a wider scale - ai encouraging mentally ill people to do stupid things.
Im most worried about the videos where he's talking with AI and its pretty much saying he should start up a quasi-religious following and validating him. Imagine consequences of this on a wider scale - ai encouraging mentally ill people to do stupid things.
Rinoachicken
Active member
I agree with this. He posts rape fantasies on his OF, kidnaps his kids, his hatred of Laura is next level.
I really worry, and I’m not being over dramatic here, but I really worry we’re going to be hearing on the news that he’s gone over there high as kite and done something to Laura, or taken the kids and then done something to them just so she can’t have them, and then done something to himself.
The red flags are HUGE.
Lolly666
Well-known member
Can't cope with all the click bait videos they are both making. One of his titled 'Affair' with a thumbnail of him with his head in his hands. Clearly to get everyone thinking ooh she cheated? And then he waffles on about nothing and of course there was no affair. Both of them just keep releasing videos of themselves talking about themselves but not really saying much. I don't get all the adoration and interest they both get! Just an easy money maker to milk the absolute crap out of their supposed break up when they're probably working alongside each other to think of new ideas on how they can drag this out and make as much money as possible.
Brian Butterfield
VIP Member
Yeah. I was hate watching for a while, but I find him so sinister now that I find myself physically recoiling at his creepy voice, mad puce face and grey wiry mop pop up on my FYP.It’s so awful. And you could see it happening a while ago. I don’t know if he’s still getting all the evangelical MAGA people congratulating him on “waking up” because he announced he found his way back to god () as I skip his vids quickly if it comes up on my fyp. He’s addicted to substances and attention.
I can't even begin to think how frightened Laura must be living so close to him.
Boogs
VIP Member
I think it doesn’t really matter what she does or doesn’t post. He’s not going to stop as he’s going to keep punishing her in an attempt to regain control. I just hope she takes his behaviour seriously and takes measures to protect her and the kids. She needs to not think about who he was or who he could be if he wasn’t using. She needs to focus on who he is right now and that is a dangerous man who is very angry that he’s lost control of the narrative.
supershark
VIP Member
Unless you’re in her shoes, no one is in a position to judge. You may not have meant it this way but your comments come off as victim blaming.
As a child of a man much like Steven, there is simply no “protecting” them from knowing who their dad is. It’s unavoidable and they should know! He is dangerous.
Personally, I WISH my mom wasn’t as silent as she was for so long. Laura is standing up for herself, bringing awareness to insidious narc abuse and not living under the very heavy veil of silence most abuse victims live under because they watch individuals criticize other victims as they navigate their way out of abusive relationships. Victims don’t need blame or judgement — they need compassion.
mcsparkle12
Chatty Member
So she should shut up to what, protect him from the kids seeing the impact of his abuse? And he can continue to abuse her publically? She isn't my normal cup of tea and her comedy is the opposite from what I would personally enjoy but she has every right to respond in a public way when he continues to perpetrate his abuse in such an open and public way.
Bubblemamaa22
VIP Member
I'm not saying anything new here but I'm still flabbergasted at the bizarreness of this situation.
Laura is calling out followers of Stephens who are coming at her, and there he is posting an
emoji response.
They both behave as if they are not inviting this level of interference into their affairs when they are both, separately, taking to social media to describe intimate details on the daily and monetising it all.
I'm just completely baffled.
Laura is calling out followers of Stephens who are coming at her, and there he is posting an
emoji response.They both behave as if they are not inviting this level of interference into their affairs when they are both, separately, taking to social media to describe intimate details on the daily and monetising it all.
I'm just completely baffled.
Brian Butterfield
VIP Member
She's right to be.
He is escalating and I'd be seriously concerned about what he's going to do next.
WhatABore
VIP Member
I came here when I saw she posted a tiktok saying she's heartbroken and whatever. But then says nothing apart from the description says you can listen in Spotify or on her YouTube.Just came here to see what was going on, I watched Stephens video first and wasn’t sure if it was for views, then watched Laura’s video and I’m still not sure.. I’m sceptical about everything
I don't follow either of them on social media and only aware of them when they pop up on tiktok.
But I wasn't giving her views which is what she's after
Also just seen his tiktok saying he tried to kill himself using drugs after 8 years sober and asking tiktok if he needs to go into treatment to get better?
Why is he asking tiktok.
Same as his video before, he gives zero information and just says 'more on youtube'
I just can't stand people that want the views!
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Rinoachicken
Active member
If you read how he responds to people in his comments as well, well he’s showing who he really is - any one who questions or challenges him, regardless of how politely done, gets told to STFU and called cunts etc - taking comments out of context and then posting them on his FB and telling his followers to go and attack that person…he’s all ‘peace love, no hate…except when it’s from him
