Have you ever heard of hyperbole?
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Personally I think the Palestinian cause has become too politicised , kneecap are just another group caught up in sectarian shouty matches the humanitarian message behind the flag is lost, sad to say!
Very few public figures talking about it? Are you sure?
on my social media it’s a bombardment of death statistics, images of death and reports of bombings. I don’t think they’re the only ones talking about it - I actually think between rolling, 24hr News and constant sharing of information and misinformation on social media, people are becoming desensitised to it. When I say it, I mean atrocities in general; Israel/Palestine conflict, Russia/Ukraine war included.
People are reducing this to soundbites and digestible instagram length clips which are one sided (regardless of which side that is). Sure, Kneecap and others are talking about current events and politics, but musicians for decades and centuries before them have done the same. Look to Dylan, Simon & Garfunkel, blues music, Joan Baez, The Byrds as examples.
For example, the Vietnam war and the killings there were the inspiration and subject of so many songs, albums, books and films.
None of them needed to use hyperbole in the way of a terrorist flag to make their point and none of them had access to social media platforms and still got their points across articulately.
Kneecap are cashing in on a current trend IMO. I’m not saying they don’t have a conscience; they probably have no more or less of a moral conscience or compass than you or I. They’re making a hella lot of money from spouting their views and waving terrorist flags then when they’re called to account for it, they deflect back to death counts in Gaza rather than apologising for saying MPs should be murdered.
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They should get Elbow to be their support if they tour.
The Irish News reported they have close family links to the West Bank so I’m pretty sure they feel so strongly about it because it’s personal to them. Not that anyone should need to explain why they feel strongly about genocide.
A lot of celebrities haven't really made it part of their image outside of simple IG infographics or occasional statements
A lot of social media that you see is going to be generated by (a) your friends, (b) random people that pop up, (c) influencers - not your more traditional celebrities
So when a more traditional celebrity makes it a big part of their "brand" it is notable.
Granted, I don't care enough to be arguing or getting outraged over whatever they have done that has been controversial every other week. It's actually sort of surprising the number of people who have absolutely lost their heads over the MP comments - yes it's several steps too far but also in most cases I don't think anyone would really care. I think the cultural background to the group and their support of Palestine is what is compounding it and I sort of understand why they seem to want to point that out
I’m talking in general terms! The Palestinian flag has taken on a new meaning for lots of people ,it’s not the flag we grew up with it’s been turned into something more contentious imo.
They’ve always highlighted Palestine it’s not a sudden trend with them. There’s lots of satire in their act that people don’t get ,we’re very “ near the knuckle “ in our humour, someone mentioned Paddy Kielty up thread I can assure you Paddy’s lives were some of the most controversial I’ve seen
that’s probably where Kneecap were always destined to fall , although those that made it their business to nit pick couldn’t cast a stone to anyone .
Unlike Kneecap, Green Day used their music to deliver Palestine messa…
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Weren't they awarded an arts grant, and then because the money wasn't used for something the a British government liked, they tried to claw it back, hence the court case?
In this case I'm on Kneecap's side. The government doesn't get to decide what is or isn't art just because they don't like something.
I don't know the ins and outs of it. But if a recipient of public money has shown support to proscribed terrorist groups and said stuff like “The only good Tory is a dead Tory. Kill your local MP” I think that would be the argument to remove it rather than removing the grant due to not liking the art.
I get that it was apparently years ago the the dead tory, kill your local MP. But isn't that how the internet and cancel culture works? Where one message from years ago comes back to bite.
I get that it was apparently years ago the the dead tory, kill your local MP. But isn't that how the internet and cancel culture works? Where one message from years ago comes back to bite.
I mean it was 2023, they were all adults. This isn't the same as something someone said when they were teenagers in a different social/political environment.
Also they seem like the types to wish cancellation on others for wrong speak and I have no sympathy for those who are cancelled who would gleefully cancel others in similar circumstances
It's the hypocrisy of applying for British grant money when they so venomously hate the British. Are there no Irish grants instead? I suppose it's something else for them to sneer about, taking British money.
The audacity- happy to benefit from "the establishment" they oppose so much. Happy to have a British funded film produced, and do UK festivals.. if they hate the British and UK so much, then surely they shouldn't want to perform there either?
The audacity- happy to benefit from "the establishment" they oppose so much. Happy to have a British funded film produced, and do UK festivals.. if they hate the British and UK so much, then surely they shouldn't want to perform there either?
They knew exactly what they were saying. I'm quite sure they also knew that 2 MPs had been murdered by far-right extremists. I'm quite sure they also are aware Hezbollah is far-right extremism.
Oh FFS
They pay UK taxes, why wouldn’t they apply for UK funding?
They don’t hate the British and the UK, they want British rule in the North to end and oppose the British establishment.
It’s ironic you talking about them sneering when your entire post is dripping with contempt.
Clueless is an apt username for you on this topic!
That’s what colonization affords you
it’s not a choice!They don’t “hate the British”. They are taxpayers and guess who they pay their taxes to? Might as well flip it on it’s head and say the British establishment are happy to benefit from Kneecap’s taxes. They are as entitled as anyone else to access any appropriate funding.
They oppose British rule in Ireland and so bloody what? Self governance and reunification is a legitimate political aspiration isn’t it?
John Lennon and Paul McCartney were very vocal about their support for the IRA, “give Ireland back to the Irish” and nobody sought to cancel them.
Most people in GB either want NI to rejoin with Ireland or care so little about NI they think of it.
Tell that to your PM he won’t grant a border poll.
What type of music do they play?
