I wouldn't pay for a seat for my under 2 but I wouldn't be on a plane for longer than 1 hour lol. But having a kid sit on my lap in business or 1st class for xxxx amount of hours? No thanks!! Can't believe she needed to bring a nanny away on holidays with 2 pair of adult hands and a teenager.Has anyone else’s listened to this weeks pod? I was howling, I couldn’t quite believe that they didn’t pay for a seat for Fred, it’s not like he could fit in a bassinet. Violet and the nanny in economy, I was surprised and get it but don’t at the same time, like she says she’s a rich womananyway when Fred turns 2 what will they do?
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The nanny is for BK’s ego
BK is banging the nanny. I’m calling it.
Do you think she got an old haggered nanny? Eugh sorry if that is problematic to say!! But would Kate be secure enough to get a young attractive nanny? Would the nanny wanna bang BK as he is now in his naff holiday clobber. He is not the worst looking in gym gear, so if I was drunk and horny he would get it if just walking around naked
Ben Kingsley?
Hmmm Bobby AND violet forgot Mother's Day? I don't think there is any way you could forget Mother's Day if you exist in this country. He's a tit.
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Omg the breastmilk story is going on forever I'm losing the will to live.
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Oh and yes taking the piss out of her for talking French again, Katherine babes you're being bullied and your husband is a cretin.
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Omg the breastmilk story is going on forever I'm losing the will to live.
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Oh and yes taking the piss out of her for talking French again, Katherine babes you're being bullied and your husband is a cretin.
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This weeks podcast was a total bore, I skipped a lot of it, especially after “in Fenna’s entire life she has had around 4oz of formula” - I’m sorry but I don’t care and nor does anybody else. Not even your husband by the sounds of it.
Bobby is just a lazy twit, wouldn’t move to the two spare business class seats because he would have to look after his own son for a bit whilst his wife was holding their baby for the entire flight (a rod she clearly made for her own back) - give them some space?!
Still calling the Nanny a babysitter - just stop!
And am I the only one confused that they flew to Mauritius for a small wedding but said that they chose the destination out of a couple of different options and because they needed some sun? Don’t get it. The wedding was either in Mauritius or it wasn’t?
Bobby is just a lazy twit, wouldn’t move to the two spare business class seats because he would have to look after his own son for a bit whilst his wife was holding their baby for the entire flight (a rod she clearly made for her own back) - give them some space?!
Still calling the Nanny a babysitter - just stop!
And am I the only one confused that they flew to Mauritius for a small wedding but said that they chose the destination out of a couple of different options and because they needed some sun? Don’t get it. The wedding was either in Mauritius or it wasn’t?
Yes I wondered that about the holiday/wedding. Made me wonder if she made it up to excuse the fact she sent violet back before them? Bit of a coincidence it was a "private" wedding.
The French stuff is really infuriating, she has said it upsets her and yet he continues to do it..surely she would name that as a red flag?
Her relationship with him is incongruous with her whole ethos.
The French stuff is really infuriating, she has said it upsets her and yet he continues to do it..surely she would name that as a red flag?
Her relationship with him is incongruous with her whole ethos.
It made me laugh that she brought the 'babysitter' and had her sit in economy with no kids. I would be dropping kids off and running LOL into business (not realllly serious) Having flown business a few times now, the look of horror on people's faces when they see kids is comical. In my experience the babies were the best behaved and quiet, unlike Fred. But poor BK not being able to chill out and relax in business, my heart bleeds for him.. She does not paint this guy in a good light, like at all.
But also struggling not to doze off listening to the breastfeeding pillow and plane super interesting story. Should have sent the stories in the family WhatsApp hun!
Aaaggggh she has told this missing part pump story alfeckinready, it was another time another place another pump story. BUT THE SAME.. My lord!
But also struggling not to doze off listening to the breastfeeding pillow and plane super interesting story. Should have sent the stories in the family WhatsApp hun!
Aaaggggh she has told this missing part pump story alfeckinready, it was another time another place another pump story. BUT THE SAME.. My lord!
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Yes I did notice that at the top of the podcast she was talking about choosing where to go on holiday and then later on they were actually there for a wedding 
I'm glad she bit back at Bobby and Violet for mocking her French! Maybe putting Violet in economy with the nanny was for revenge it made me sad for Violet anyway though.
I'm glad she bit back at Bobby and Violet for mocking her French! Maybe putting Violet in economy with the nanny was for revenge
it made me sad for Violet anyway though.
I’ve come across women like this, and oh my god, what do they want from this kind of statement? A trophy? Acknowledgement of their struggle? Someone to say “Yes Katherine, we see you and you are so much better than everyone else”.
I really am surprised that she is one of those judgey, superior mothers subtly bashing other women. That never seemed to be her vibe.
She doesn’t even have the excuse of being a first time mum. She knows that no one gives AF about how you fed your baby once they get older
I think she’s always had this energy. She’s always banged on about perfect Violet being potty trained practically in the womb.
I’m of the view that if you take one kid business class, you take them all. Poor Violet. I would be upset if I were her.
I think its extra important to make sure Violet is treated the same as the other kids because she has a different dad. I am in a stepfamily, and being shunted off to economy with the nanny while my mum, stepdad and new siblings all sat somewhere else together would have hurt loads. Not even the fact that they were in business and I was in economy, but they were all together, like a perfect nuclear family, without me.
Once again it feels like one of those things that even if everyone felt ok with in the moment, may cause issues in the future.
Once again it feels like one of those things that even if everyone felt ok with in the moment, may cause issues in the future.
I kinda get where she is coming from on this, because I think she’s having a very similar experience to me with my 2nd. Although I am a strong advocate for “fed is best” and I would never judge others for how they feed their babies, I was really tough on myself when it came to formula. I really wanted to keep breastfeeding and giving formula felt like admitting defeat. It was really difficult to take that first step, because it also feels like the first step to NOT breastfeeding any longer. Speaking for myself, I wanted to exclusively breast feed and give my son expressed milk (so that my husband could give bottles) but then my son started preferring bottles and I couldn’t pump enough to satisfy him. Then sure enough, as soon as I supplemented with formula it was swiftly downhill and by 6 months my breastfeeding journey was over. I was really sad as I don’t plan to have anymore children and I feel like the choice to stop was kinda out of my hands and now I’ll never breastfeed a baby again.
Anyway, I’m sure this is super boring to most people, especially if you’ve never had a baby. But my point is I can understand what she is saying, although I agree it doesn’t come across very well (perhaps she explained poorly). I don’t think anyone will really understand unless they’ve experienced it.
I decided not to have more kids cause honestly I definitely would breastfeed, but I ffing despise it with every fibre of my being
So would rather not have more and never have to do it again 
Bottle feeding was in some ways harder and a massive pain in the ass when I briefly did it. I am glad she was sensible and got formula for the kid, baba had to eat!! I demonised formula until I needed it and so grateful I was privileged to have a choice and my child liked it.
I hope she looks back at these podcasts in around 3 years and cringes hard.
Or do a KLF and delete the entire back catalogue
Definitely. She's getting to the really difficult teenage years now, 14 is often when it all kicks off with girls. I wouldn't be surprised if she starts to lash out against KR and the whole nuclear family with BK.
Imagine you spent so many years of your life just you and your mum in inner city London, close as best friends, and suddenly you've lost that whole dynamic to an egotistical stepdad who thinks he's an alpha, 2 baby half-siblings very close in age and a mansion in Hertfordshire. That's got to mess with your head.
Katherine Ryan appears to be a grade-A bleep.
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