Karen Read Case

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Judge needs to instruct John OKeefes mom to stop with the glaring at KR and also the eye rolling at questions being asked.
If she killed my son I'd glare at her too.
She's lost her child. Karen Read is not the victim here.
 
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This!! Love the ignore button!
Homestly, the amount of times I was reading about her being a narc I thought I’d wandered into the Megan and Harry thread 🤣🤣🤣People love to call,women narcs these days when they don’t put up with tit.
 
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Outside Of court you can glare away, inside of a trial you can’t , she’s just adding to reasons for a mistrial 🤷‍♀️
What about Karen's father and his actions? He's had to have a court member of staff sit beside him to keep him in check.

Oh actually, what about Karen and her flipping the middle finger. She's already been told by the Judge not to be laughing.
 
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Homestly, the amount of times I was reading about her being a narc I thought I’d wandered into the Megan and Harry thread 🤣🤣🤣People love to call,women narcs these days when they don’t put up with tit.
Massive difference between a narc and someone who doesn't put up with tit.
 
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Homestly, the amount of times I was reading about her being a narc I thought I’d wandered into the Megan and Harry thread 🤣🤣🤣People love to call,women narcs these days when they don’t put up with tit.
I don't know if she's a narc or not. But what tit has she put up with? Being held accountable for her actions? Facing her victims family in court? Poor thing. My heart bleeds for her.
 
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What about Karen's father and his actions? He's had to have a court member of staff sit beside him to keep him in check.
Good, if his behaviour warranted it I’m glad it got dealt with, I believe John’s brother was forced to move seats too. The mom is no different, none of them get to influence the jury with their behaviour. I find it ironic that Bev was cautioning the jury because some were laughing at Hank yet JKs mom is behaving the way she is today. Hopefully it will get sorted.
 
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Good, if his behaviour warranted it I’m glad it got dealt with, I believe John’s brother was forced to move seats too. The mom is no different, none of them get to influence the jury with their behaviour. I find it ironic that Bev was cautioning the jury because some were laughing at Hank yet JKs mom is behaving the way she is today. Hopefully it will get sorted.
Well yes, everyone should be adhering to the court room rules, most of all the defendant.
 
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Good, if his behaviour warranted it I’m glad it got dealt with, I believe John’s brother was forced to move seats too. The mom is no different, none of them get to influence the jury with their behaviour. I find it ironic that Bev was cautioning the jury because some were laughing at Hank yet JKs mom is behaving the way she is today. Hopefully it will get sorted.
Wasn’t the whole speech to the jurors about not talking or making faces to cover up the person saying “mole” on hot mic when Yannetti was asking for cross?
Bev was giving someone the stink eye earlier 😅
 
I think that was just her watching the witness as he left the stand.
One person's watching is another person's glaring apparently...
I'm sure if anybody in the public gallery was not behaving appropriately they would be ejected by the judge.
 
I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if there had been violent outbursts from her before - throwing a remote control, a slap on the arm etc etc.

I also think that's why the calls got increasingly more intense. It was dawning on her that he was injured and not just ignoring her for the sake of it - culminating in telling him that the kids were alone - something I think she knew John would never allow - so if *that* didn't work to get him to respond, nothing would.
So is JOK a victim of domestic violence now ? Where is the proof of her violent outbursts and her throwing a remote control and hitting his arm ?
 
So is JOK a victim of domestic violence now ? Where is the proof of her violent outbursts and her throwing a remote control and hitting his arm ?
He was absolutely a victim of verbal abuse - and there is plenty of proof of that

The rest was a speculation as per my opinion - evidenced by the fact I said ‘if’.
 
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So is JOK a victim of domestic violence now ? Where is the proof of her violent outbursts and her throwing a remote control and hitting his arm ?
Maybe stating the obvious but driving a large SUV at someone is a violent act....
 
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He was absolutely a victim of verbal abuse - and there is plenty of proof of that

The rest was a speculation as per my opinion - evidenced by the fact I said ‘if’.
Genuine question, how was he a victim of verbal abuse? Because they had a row ?
 
Genuine question, how was he a victim of verbal abuse? Because they had a row ?
Reverse the sexes and listen to those voicemail messages. Imagine a man had left those messages on a woman's phone. This would absolutely be verbal abuse.
 
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Genuine question, how was he a victim of verbal abuse? Because they had a row ?
I'm pretty sure this is satire, but in the benefit out of the doubt..

What is *really* quite amusing is that people will stick up for Karen as someone who is not a narc, but 'doesn't stand up for tit' - but then will deny that she was verbally abusing her partner calling him 53 times calling him a p, to go duck himself, to duck off, that she (bleeping) hates him. And then we could also get started on the Aruba trip.... these weren't two isolated incidents.

She was absolutely verbally (and most likely, emotionally) abusing John, yes.

Edited to add: an instance of verbal abuse can be just that, an instance. It doesn't necessarily need to be an ongoing feature of a relationship - a single event can be classed as verbal abuse.
 
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