Karen Read Case

[avabella]

Good, you shouldn’t support murderers male or female. No one has proven that Karen is a murderer.

No one has proven she's not - especially not the cover up theorists.

 

[NarcRage]

The key cycle with the reversing at speed was after the car had been seized though…

Shanon Burgess who is currently on the stand, analysed the car data, can’t tell the difference between bits and bytes and lied about his certifications

People from the house that night lied about their whereabouts, changed testimonies, the apple data with 3 flights of steps can’t be replicated just by driving on the road. Higgins was driving a plough with a load of lights on it he’d have seen John by the flagpole.

Innocent until proven guilty, they still haven’t managed to get it beyond a reasonable doubt yet even with changing the time of the vehicle strike and location - fire hydrant then flagpole

But there weren't three flights of stairs in the house either so it doesn't support the dog attacked him theory either.
Incidentally my Fitbit says I climbed 152 flights of stairs today. I've been decorating so have been up a stepladder a but but I can categorically say that i haven't been up 152 flights of stairs.

 

[Alittlebitofme]

he’s getting shredded and they’ve not even got into the technical data yet. The degree he claimed to have didn’t even exist.
This wouldn’t have happened if Hank had agreed to voir dire

I know , Alessi is like an assassin.

 

[Alittlebitofme]

No one has proven she's not - especially not the cover up theorists.

That’s why it’s innocent until proven guilty

 

[LondonCalling272]

The wounds on the arm don’t correlate with being ‘side swiped’ by a car either …..

No, they don’t. They look like they came from a dog.

 

[LondonCalling272]

But there weren't three flights of stairs in the house either so it doesn't support the dog attacked him theory either.
Incidentally my Fitbit says I climbed 152 flights of stairs today. I've been decorating so have been up a stepladder a but but I can categorically say that i haven't been up 152 flights of stairs.

The basement had stairs

 

[avabella]

That’s why it’s innocent until proven guilty

That's just some common idiom that really means nothing. A 'not guilty' verdict still doesn't prove innocence.

The usual tactics are in play as predicted - if you can't discredit the evidence, discredit the witness.

 

[Tatvam]

Gosh this is almost uncomfortable to watch. He can't get any redder. This is the same expert that is accusing the defence experts of being unethical and misleading...

 

[Alittlebitofme]

But there weren't three flights of stairs in the house either so it doesn't support the dog attacked him theory either.
Incidentally my Fitbit says I climbed 152 flights of stairs today. I've been decorating so have been up a stepladder a but but I can categorically say that i haven't been up 152 flights of stairs.

There was the basement, the first floor and then the top floor.

 

[avabella]

No, they don’t. They look like they came from a dog.

Is that the German Shepherd that mauled him, but managed to leave no DNA, or hairs? Describe to me how that would happen. I've owned German Shepherds and they moult something awful. If I knew a way to prevent them leaving enough hair to make wigs from, I could be tempted to get another.

 

[Tatvam]

That's just some common idiom that really means nothing. A 'not guilty' verdict still doesn't prove innocence.

The usual tactics are in play as predicted - if you can't discredit the evidence, discredit the witness.

Just more smoke and mirrors I guess!!

 

[Alittlebitofme]

That's just some common idiom that really means nothing. A 'not guilty' verdict still doesn't prove innocence.

The usual tactics are in play as predicted - if you can't discredit the evidence, discredit the witness.

Absolutely it can happen where a not guilty verdict does not mean innocent but commonwealth “expert” has been able to prove anything

 

[Alittlebitofme]

I wonder does Hank just feel like throwing in the towel at this stage

 

[avabella]

Just more smoke and mirrors I guess!!

Alessi is absolutely painful. I guess he didn't get the memo that witnesses are not on trial. He's not even a criminal attorney

 

[avabella]

Absolutely it can happen where a not guilty verdict does not mean innocent but commonwealth “expert” has been able to prove anything

I wonder if I'll see you on a Molly Martens thread supporting that woman too?

 

[NarcRage]

There was the basement, the first floor and then the top floor.

That's two flights
Did he go onto the roof?

 

[LondonCalling272]

That's two flights
Did he go onto the roof?

There’s 2 sets of stairs in the basement, the one on the plan and a bulkhead one not shown on the plan that was photographed by the FBI and defence

 

[Tatvam]

Alessi is absolutely painful. I guess he didn't get the memo that witnesses are not on trial. He's not even a criminal attorney

Credibility of an expert witness is pretty important you know

 

[avabella]

Credibility of an expert witness is pretty important you know

Credibility of a criminal defence attorney I'd imagine is also pretty paramount. Too bad Alessi isn't one.

 

[NarcRage]

There’s 2 sets of stairs in the basement, the one on the plan and a bulkhead one not shown on the plan that was photographed by the FBI and defence

So he went down one flight into the basement and then one flight to get back out to where he was found? How do you end up with three flights? Why didn't the temperature on his phone go up?