One of the issues with Michael Kay was that he started the journey as Michael Kay. That puts Kyle and JoJo in a better position, particularly when they both nominally seem to engage in actual exercise.
Patreon has an explicit hands-off policy regarding creators not delivering benefits. Their suggestion is that member request a refund and cancel their membership.
When JoJo added the $100 tier and $200 tier, the limit for the $100 tier was set at 10 members and the limit for the $200 tier was set at 5 members. You can tell how many people are currently giving at those tiers by looking at the number of tier memberships still available. For a least a month there was someone at the $200 tier, but as of now, there is no one at that tier. There are two people currently paying at the $100 tier. They are supposed to be featured in a vlog, but I haven’t seen that happen yet. I wouldn’t join those tiers because it’s a) a ridiculous amount of money to give, b) it’s a one-time benefit but a reoccurring payment, and c) I already wasn’t receiving the lower tier benefit so I doubted JoJo would deliver on the higher tiers.
Most of his supporters are unlikely to leave him over him not doing what he says he will do. They are very forgiving. For example, in April, 2020, after months of procrastination, JoJo scheduled a Zoom call for Patreon members. On the day of, he posted a message, “Sorry Pals something came up in the family.” (Sound familiar?) He indicated it would be delayed, which it was, for a year. The response to things like that from the supporters is always that it’s okay, they understand, and it’s no problem. I, on the other hand, just bit my tongue and made no comment, since I know it’s not okay and it is a problem to do things like that to people.
It's his "get out of jail free card" but after he used it as an excuse to abandon Kyle in California and then go out partying I don't believe a word he says.
I didn’t notice there was a limit to how many could join those tiers. Interesting. So two people are paying him $100, probably hoping to meet him at the parks and be featured in his vlog. I also haven’t seen that yet, nor the $200 tier dinner vlog which is also meant to be featured. That’s a lot of money to be sent and then for him to not deliver on those benefits.
Always making new friends!
I’m honestly just over him after the California stunt. Don’t claim to be an advocate for mental health, then use your mental health as a pawn to get people to tune in. Hearing about all this patreon tomfoolery is the icing on the cake. He’s old enough to know better.
That's funny because Kyle gets criticism for not doing enough research but I like his reactions to discoveries.
Agreed 100%
Nutty, in general, what vloggers do not know and the bad information they pass along. Would Kyle have known about the boats if he hadn’t worked at WL?
Did he ever have one beyond ten year olds on TikTok?
And his subscribers is up to 125K. So he's gaining so much there, but they're not watching the daily vlogs.
He is gaining followers like crazy, but his views are terrible! I thought it was funny watching Kyle's vlog today, where he shows JoJo editing his vlog at the bar at Steakhouse 71, carrying around his laptop all day, because, why?! Did he have a bunch of back-to-back dates that night that he couldn't edit at home?
Rarely watching his vlogs lately, you can tell he's editing them on the go. #noeffortImagine booking a reservation for your family on a trip you've been saving up for years and won't be going back for another few years, you decide to splurge a little to make it extra special and book a dinner at California Grill. Then you are pleasantly sat next to Jojo editing a vlog, hearing his annoying voice over and over from the video he's editing while dining on your extravagant meal.He is gaining followers like crazy, but his views are terrible! I thought it was funny watching Kyle's vlog today, where he shows JoJo editing his vlog at the bar at Steakhouse 71, carrying around his laptop all day, because, why?! Did he have a bunch of back-to-back dates that night that he couldn't edit at home?
He seems to think it's Starbucks. If it was my bar he'd be shown the door.
I agree, except Jojo's the one who appears to have a drink problem. I don't think he adds any value to Kyle's vlogs at all. Whenever he appears in them I hit >>I wish Kyle would just separate himself from JoJo at this point. JoJo has no clear direction and is too self-absorbed. I’d be either annoyed or drunk all the time too if I was hanging out with him
I lowkey want them to do another cruise series together because the gradually growing frustration from staying in the same room makes for a compelling storyline!I wish Kyle would just separate himself from JoJo at this point. JoJo has no clear direction and is too self-absorbed. I’d be either annoyed or drunk all the time too if I was hanging out with him
It's fascinating how much chemistry makes or breaks a video. Kyle's videos with his family, Patrick and some of his other friends are a lot of fun; the ones with JoJo get cringey at times. And it's not just that they both are vlogging at the same time, because so was Patrick.
