Alexi has been asked repeatedly to give a single Twitter handle of one of these Saudi bot accounts. He’s failed to do so. His data expert claimed that by using ‘waybackwhen’ you can see that these accounts used to be pro-Saudi government and are later pro-Depp, after deleted their historic Saudi tweets.
That’s a public website, so all he need to do is supply some example Twitter handles to prove any of these accounts exist. Also worth noting, that ‘waybackwhen’ only archives Twitter accounts that have ‘large followings’, I don’t know the threshold, but Alexi himself at apx 25k followers has never been archived. JK Rowling at 14m has been archived apx 10 times since 2009. Anyone can see this for themselves, as I said it’s a tool on a public website.
This means that those bot accounts likely need to have millions of followers each to have been archived enough times within the last couple of years for the data scientist to have found ‘hundreds’ or ‘thousands’ (the quantity keeps changing, hundreds is said in the podcast, thousands by Alexi on Twitter) of such examples. These accounts in theory are so big and so influential that fans should be able to spot them with ease, yet nobody has. They should be bigger than TUG and RealLauraB, WynoForever etc.
Also add into this that the data scientist is claiming that this all happened after the US trial. Yet prior to the trial there were accusations in the pre-trial documents of JD using Russian bots/trolls, this logic was that one of his attorneys had at some point had Russian clients. Yet when they gave examples, they listed tweets from accounts such as IFOD (a fan club running since 2003, defiantly human because they have posted photos of themselves with JD). They didn’t list one single account in the legal filings that appeared to not be genuine, to the extent that Twitter rejected a request (from AH) for account holder details on the basis that these were just people expression opinions or things that might be true and didn’t have any relevance to the claim or the counter-claim…as JD and AH weren’t employing any of these people and they weren’t witnesses. The request was basically just a doxxing attempt.
The recent claims of Saudi bots appear to have come about purely because they invested money in a JD movie and invited him to a film festival. The ‘bromance’ story with the Saudi Prince may not be true, there’s no evidence they have even met. What is interesting is that the podcast claims this happened directly after the trial. The timing of that is suspect because according to the media, JD’s first involvement with the Saudi’s was 4 months later, when they offered to invest money into a film that was nearly finished filming but was going over budget. Note also that JD’s production team were partners in that movie, but in reality that probably means he is being paid his salary through the company for tax reasons…rather than he is actually funding the movie as an investor. The movie itself was in the works for a long time and he was offered a part, Maiwenn was the person behind the project, so any additional funding being offered would go through her or other production companies.
So, it’s possible that investing money came with the trade-off for JD to go to Saudi and potentially become somewhat of a movie ambassador/mascot via all expense paid trips etc…because the Saudi’s are trying to break away from reliance on oil, and want to put money into industries such as film and tourism. Jeanne Du Barry as a French language film was never going to be a big box office break for the Saudi’s, their investment was probably more a move to get their foot in the door with JD and have him get them some publicity by being photographed at festivals etc…to get themselves more established as serious movie investors, they are going to be doing similar things with other actors/producers/directors, it just won’t get the same media attention because the media love any excuse to bash JD. Will Smith, Sharon Stone, Gwynneth Paltrow among others either paid or free trips, yet we don’t see articles about their relationship with Saudi. Then of course, Maiwenn herself doesn’t seem to have been bashed by the media…when she must have been the decision-maker for that investment and also went to the film festival.
Anyway, my point is, the timing doesn’t add up. If JD had this ‘bromance’ with the Saudi Prince and as a result that Prince (who apparently is the de facto leader of the country, so likely has better things to do) decided to help JD by deploying bot accounts to bash AH, who JD had already won his trial against…this relationship couldn’t have developed to that point so quickly. The investment stuff would have been phone calls with the earliest that could have been is Sept 2022, mostly with other people on the line to talk about the finance issues, JD was busy with filming and then toured with Jeff Beck. The earliest he could have made a trip to Saudi to have started his ‘bromance’ could have been Dec 2022, and even then it would have been fast moving to have started bot activity. Yet, the data scientist is claiming the Saudi bots started June 2022.
It also doesn’t make sense that if there was a huge surge of thousands of bot accounts suddenly that no-one would notice them. Plus from JD’s perspective, why would he even want to risk doing something like that? The main premise of people supporting him is that they watched the trial, looked at evidence and made their decision, then put their own opinions on social media…telling lies, falsifying evidence, editing audio and trying to influence using social media has been either AH herself (hands-free via a PR company) or just her supporters tactics.
Looking at the online activity, it’s much more likely that some of the AH accounts are paid trolls, many of them freely admit that they didn’t watch the trial and don’t care about evidence, admit that they don’t care if AH hit JD, intentionally falsify or mislead evidence, and wish injury and death on him. By contrast, the majority of the JD accounts present using the court evidence and try to argue truth (even if they are biased to believe his side, they are still genuine individuals believing wholeheartedly in what they say, most of the time with sensible logic behind their opinions).
Yet Alexi, doesn’t even enter into that issue. Because if for example JD did have 1,000 bot accounts, that’s pretty irrelevant if he has done that to try to counter AH having 20,000 of them attacking him. So if there is genuine evidence of JD bot accounts, that’s meaningless if you don’t consider whether that is for social media manipulation, or whether it is actually for the purpose of fighting against social media manipulation by another party.
He doesn’t look at any behaviour of pro-AH accounts AT ALL, so his whole ‘investigation’ is nonsense.
I tried Googling, but to no avail; sorry if I posted crap, I thought it was interesting.
