Also ‘resist’ and ‘educate yourself’ - the latter would have been good advice for Jason.I'm nearly certain she only have an honorary doctorate, for going on TV and shouting about 'equality'
Also ‘resist’ and ‘educate yourself’ - the latter would have been good advice for Jason.I'm nearly certain she only have an honorary doctorate, for going on TV and shouting about 'equality'
Before his tragic demise the focus was broadening from JA to looking at low standards in higher education - not just how DEI was applied but also whether some disciplines, that attracted the academically weak, needed to be pared back. The anger & politicisation has now overshadowed these debates & attempts to comment on this in the mainstream are too risky. Anyone who puts their head above the parapet risks a toxic smear.Further education is very expensive. These students need to study a subject that will secure them work, not tick a box. It’s not sustainable.
I really do hope once the furore calms down that cooler heads prevail. I think this case has highlighted how higher education institutes are currently undermined when failing to do their due diligence.Before his tragic demise the focus was broadening from JA to looking at low standards in higher education - not just how DEI was applied but also whether some disciplines, that attracted the academically weak, needed to be pared back. The anger & politicisation has now overshadowed these debates & attempts to comment on this in the mainstream are too risky. Anyone who puts their head above the parapet risks a toxic smear.
I've read so much that I've forgotten where I saw an interesting comment. Basically the thrust of the point was that more intellectually demanding disciplines, physics was cited, used more concise & plain language as they didn't need to use obscure words & create inpenetrable word salad sentences to feel confident of their intellectual worthiness. I giggled at Dan Neidle's retort to one such reflexively, intersectional tweet. He didn't quite say 'yer wot, mate'.
In the interest of balance I'm trying to read more objective material that's being run up the flag about right wing influences in Cambridge. The Peter Thiel influence & Quillette. Suspending judgement on that for now though.
BIB- absolutely. Excellence is discriminatory - it has to be! That’s what sets excellence apart from good or mediocre- you discriminate to discern the valuable. I mean, the people yelling loudest about discrimination are at least following their own arguments by then demanding that standards be lowered to avoid rewarding excellence. That this actually shows that they think that groups who are typically under achieving aren’t capable of excellence never really seems to occur.I really do hope once the furore calms down that cooler heads prevail. I think this case has highlighted how higher education institutes are currently undermined when failing to do their due diligence.
I am currently watching a Telegraph video on YouTube that was posted 12 days ago, and it’s an interview with Tim Stanley and Professor Kehinde Andrews. In it Professor Andrews does concede that he thought Arday’s PhD thesis was poor scholarship, but he stands by it not being plagiarised. The discussion then moves onto, if it was poor scholarship, should it have been passed.
Universities such as Cambridge University, should be setting themselves to the highest standard. They require excellence, that would exclude the majority of us, which is how it should be without that being considered discriminatory.
Didn’t seem to trouble The Salt Path grifters, increased sales.I see a lot of ‘things you can do to support JA’s memory’ and one of them is pre-ordering his book. I wonder if the mainstream mood will change after it is read by so many of his supporters?
It’s partially correct. A PhD thesis is submitted for examination by two examiners: one internal (ie employed by the University where the candidate has researched the PhD) and one external (ie employed by another University either in the UK or internationally). Both examiners should be renowned experts in the subject of the doctorate. In cases where the candidate is also employed by the University, it is not uncommon for there to be a third internal examiner, to provide an additional layer of scrutiny and protect against bias. The examiners produce a report. Then the viva voce takes place, where candidates typically have the opportunity to present, and are then questioned on their work. It’s a test of the researcher’s skill as well as the final product itself. These discussions can last for several hours and be extremely stressful. In the UK, they take place in private, but in Europe and elsewhere the defence is public! So even more intense.FYI - It was highlighted and punctuated in my comment as I copied and pasted it from Google AI Overview. I had to look it up as I have no idea how a PhD is marked, I don’t have one.
It’s in the book, and based on the utterly ludicrous story he weaves around it, including the mean examiners who didn’t make small talk before starting, it seems fairly clear he scraped it by the skin of his teeth and it remained a narc wound for him.I’ve no idea how Arday’s viva went. Perhaps it’s in the book. No doubt he was the first 29 year old black PhD candidate in history to complete in 2.5 years (!!) while working full time (!!!), running 609 marathons and pass his viva with no corrections.
im from Liverpool as well and I was disgusted. He was talking about us like we’re knuckle draggers. I could hardly believe it.I don't want to sound dramatic, but the way he spoke about Liverpool has really pissed me off.
This is a city that has one of the oldest black communities in the country, had the first British mosque, has the oldest Chinese community in Europe FFS.
Yet he speaks of us as though we've never had any experience of a well educated black man. I'm not denying that black people are woefully unrepresented in education, but I had at least a handful of black teachers when I was in school and college here.
His book smacks of someone who thinks the North is one large homogeneous mass, possibly all racists, flat cap wearing, Brexit voting, slightly unsophisticated people.
If he'd actually bothered to immerse himself in the culture of the city he lived in, he'd have realised we're massively, proudly, multicultural.
I don’t believe for a second the incurious fantasist ever lived in Liverpool, spent any meaningful time there whatsoever, or even spent the night there beyond maybe (generously) a handful of times if for work reasons absolutely forced to. I’m imagining his commute was similar to that of his Glasgow back and forth-into and out of the classes he was required to teach then immediately back home to London. His entire Liverpool experience was him getting from JMU to the bus station and back, probably by cab and definitely traveling there as infrequently as he could get away with. His nonsensical imaginings and stories about the good kind (and not so good and kind) simple White folk of Liverpool and their encounterings of the exotic Black fella are just testament to what an incurious, dull, often offensive self-absorbed fabulist he was.I don't want to sound dramatic, but the way he spoke about Liverpool has really pissed me off.
This is a city that has one of the oldest black communities in the country, had the first British mosque, has the oldest Chinese community in Europe FFS.
Yet he speaks of us as though we've never had any experience of a well educated black man. I'm not denying that black people are woefully unrepresented in education, but I had at least a handful of black teachers when I was in school and college here.
His book smacks of someone who thinks the North is one large homogeneous mass, possibly all racists, flat cap wearing, Brexit voting, slightly unsophisticated people.
If he'd actually bothered to immerse himself in the culture of the city he lived in, he'd have realised we're massively, proudly, multicultural.
Make me glad he didn't go into details about is time in Scotland, fleeting though it was.im from Liverpool as well and I was disgusted. He was talking about us like we’re knuckle draggers. I could hardly believe it.
Ffffffffff! Yeah… I don’t think i’ll do a PhD.It’s partially correct. A PhD thesis is submitted for examination by two examiners: one internal (ie employed by the University where the candidate has researched the PhD) and one external (ie employed by another University either in the UK or internationally). Both examiners should be renowned experts in the subject of the doctorate. In cases where the candidate is also employed by the University, it is not uncommon for there to be a third internal examiner, to provide an additional layer of scrutiny and protect against bias. The examiners produce a report. Then the viva voce takes place, where candidates typically have the opportunity to present, and are then questioned on their work. It’s a test of the researcher’s skill as well as the final product itself. These discussions can last for several hours and be extremely stressful. In the UK, they take place in private, but in Europe and elsewhere the defence is public! So even more intense.
The examiners reconvene and discuss without the candidates and then, typically, issue one of the following outcomes: Pass without Corrections, Pass with Minor Corrections, Pass with Major Corrections, Resubmission Required, or Fail. The final report from the examiners includes a list of corrections to be made and the time allowed for the candidate to make the amendments. Once the examiners (or one of the nominated examiners) has rechecked the thesis, it is finally submitted and the degree can be awarded.
I’ve no idea how Arday’s viva went. Perhaps it’s in the book. No doubt he was the first 29 year old black PhD candidate in history to complete in 2.5 years (!!) while working full time (!!!), running 609 marathons and pass his viva with no corrections.
Oh no!!I don’t believe for a second the incurious fantasist ever lived in Liverpool, spent any meaningful time there whatsoever, or even spent the night there beyond maybe (generously) a handful of times. I’m imagining his commute was similar to that of his Glasgow back and forth-into and out of the classes he was required to teach then immediately back homs to London. His entire Liverpool experience was him getting from JMU to the bus station and back, probably by cab and definitely traveling there as infrequently as he could get away with. His nonsensical imaginings and stories about the good kind (and not so good and kind) simple White folk of Liverpool and their encounterings of the exotic Black fella are just testament to what an incurious, dull, often offensive fabulist he was.
FFS look at his “old Liverpool haunts”View attachment 4094751
and there’s the “I lived on Penny Lane” guff. FFS. If one of his ‘I love the bands of the music of the Northwest’ bands had come from Leeds and written a bleeping song about Briggate he’d have lived on Briggate while working at Beckett.
Now you’ll have to excuse me. I used to live in New York, New York (so good they named it twice) and today I’m showing my A Level English teacher around my “old haunts” Ellis Island, the Tenement Museum, Studio 54 and Ripley's Believe It or Not! Times Square.
The Samaritans guidance was adopted initially, but it’s just a suggestion. One which seems to have been forgotten in the last year or so in favour of sensationalist headlines and clickbait.I do think the media needs to change, not in terms of some ridiculous arbitrary rule where if someone has X articles then no more are allowed until Y days have elapsed.
But in how they report a suicide. The current rules aren't up to scratch and it's so damaging to see the praise and gofund money pouring in when this isn't the reality for most cases.
Take the case of Princess Dickson, a child who had been exploited by TV companies and her mother since she was 4. The IPSO regulated press ran wild with blaming tattle before a coroner's investigation was opened and while it was an active police investigation. The rhetoric in the media was totally inaccurate and pushed by that awful person not a doctor Jessica Taylor who has her own selfish motives to silence valid criticism and sell books. Influencers all have PR and press contacts so getting hit pieces on tattle is easy. Tattle was the only place actually raising safeguarding concerns that no one else cared about.
IPSO said it would be too traumatic for the family to investigate, which I totally understand. But also the stuff in the press is traumatic for the family as all the articles were just her mothers opinion spurred on by awful people possibly convincing her she'll get a payday. At the heart of this case there looks to be a family dispute. If it's too traumatic for IPSO to look into then it shouldn't be reported on other than the known facts. The media all broke the Samaritans advice and IPSO do nothing.
If the IPSO regulated press can't even adhere to the very basic standards on reporting that the Samaritans set out, what hope is there?
I’m impressed by your ability to type a whole sentence whilst being high on skag and scotch, and operating the bagpipes. Now get back in your bothy and boil me a haggis. Like you do.Make me glad he didn't go into details about is time in Scotland, fleeting though it was.
That's typical of the BBC. They've spent years platforming other obvious fantasists and grifters like Jack Monroe and not a medical doctor Jessica Taylor. They don't like to back down and admit their mistakes.In the Spectator - an examination of the BBC’s role
“The BBC’s coverage of the Jason Arday scandal is something of a scandal itself. The corporation spent years uncritically promoting the myth of Arday.”
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Yep, that's why IPSO need to change things. It initially worked OK but the news industry is struggling today and laying off lots of people. So all ethics and morals have been chucked out.The Samaritans guidance was adopted initially, but it’s just a suggestion. One which seems to have been forgotten in the last year or so in favour of sensationalist headlines and clickbait.
IPSO Isnt fit for purpose- it’s an organisation made up of newspaper editors marking each others homework. And that’s between the press who signed up to it. Complain about the Times and have the editor of The Sun investigate? Although the Guardian isn’t a member so it investigates itself.
And what I’m asking - why doesn’t anyone in Liverpool know him? Nobody is organising a vigil.I don't want to sound dramatic, but the way he spoke about Liverpool has really pissed me off.
This is a city that has one of the oldest black communities in the country, had the first British mosque, has the oldest Chinese community in Europe FFS.
Yet he speaks of us as though we've never had any experience of a well educated black man. I'm not denying that black people are woefully unrepresented in education, but I had at least a handful of black teachers when I was in school and college here.
His book smacks of someone who thinks the North is one large homogeneous mass, possibly all racists, flat cap wearing, Brexit voting, slightly unsophisticated people.
If he'd actually bothered to immerse himself in the culture of the city he lived in, he'd have realised we're massively, proudly, multicultural.