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I didn’t know much about his personal life but I read his wife taught him to read and write at 18, when he already had a GCSE. So she must have been in on the lies?
 
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I didn't think that there would be anything more shocking than the death of Ann Widdecombe this year, I was wrong. Regardeless of his actions, what a senseless waste of life. My heart goes out to his family.
 
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My stepfather did the same when he was no longer able to control the narrative and whilst I do feel bad for his kids, I am not shocked or surprised.

This is going to be a story that'll run and run. He just won't be here to see it unfold.
 
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It’s such a desperately sad ending and I feel so sorry for his family.

I hope this shines a light on the entirety of toxic academia. I’m in it and honestly, the expectations of what academics need to achieve to be appointed to roles is nothing short of what JA claimed he did. It’s ridiculous - have millions of pound of grants, teaching awards, external speaking events, write books, publish research, have spin out companies and much more. In some aspects JA just got swept along in the culture of embellishing his achievements (albeit to an extreme), something I have seen in colleagues of mine. There will be many, many other academics who have massively over embellished their resumes just to get basic lecturing jobs but haven’t attracted the same scrutiny because Cambridge didn’t do a press release about their appointment to make themselves look inclusive.
 
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It’s absolutely tragic but I don’t feel surprised. The attention on this story was so intense (perhaps because it’s silly season).

I know this sounds odd but I’m not sure he thought he had lied. By all accounts other academics at Cambridge and previous institutions treated him as some sort of messiah. An academic on twitter said a few days ago he was a nice guy but was just so weird how in thrall to him other academics were.

I think he could do no wrong and it probs did feel to him that he was going through life ‘manifesting’ a PhD, academic career etc. and it was all just meant to be.

I blame the people in the institutions who enabled all of this.
I think this sums it up very well. It’s a very tragic situation that needn’t have happened,

I wonder if it was a cry for help, that he thought making an ‘attempt’ would somehow allow him to come out the other side and make amends?

He’d told so many lies, that had been uncovered and the various institutions he’d worked for had enabled this whole charade.

Very sad and it’s the family left behind who have to pick up the pieces.
 
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I know this sounds odd but I’m not sure he thought he had lied.
I'm always 50/50 on that. I think some people do start legitimately believing what they say, but I also don't think thats universal. In this case we'll never know and probably shouldn't speculate.
 
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Right, I'm going to say something and if it is awful then please feel free to report to mods etc.
I'm very sorry that someone has lost their life, that's awful. Especially as he has children.
However as the survivor of narcissistic abuse i have educated myself over the past few years. Threatening to take your life and actually taking your own life are the tools of a narcissist. Dying by your own hand is the ultimate 'win' for a narcissist. You can't try and justify or understand it if you don't have the experience.
Their brains aren't wired normally. To be dead and make others look bad is just one example how they 'win'. It's why estranged parents kill their children to spite the other parent.
I'm not sorry about anything I've posted on here. I have only ever mocked obvious bull, which is what I believe everyone else has done.
All we have done is called out the lies of an obvious fantasist. No one on here needs to feel bad about anything.
Just waiting for notadoc Jess and et al spinning rit that it was all Tattle's fault.
 
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Extremely shocked to hear he is dead but on the other hand maybe not so much because people like this do take that way out often when everything unravels and they've lost control.

I hope those who investigated him won't get any sort of blame for this but I expect that's what will dominate the subject now and not that he was a scammer who is the only one responsible for what has now happened.
 
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Right, I'm going to say something and if it is awful then please feel free to report to mods etc.
I'm very sorry that someone has lost their life, that's awful. Especially as he has children.
However as the survivor of narcissistic abuse i have educated myself over the past few years. Threatening to take your life and actually taking your own life are the tools of a narcissist. Dying by your own hand is the ultimate 'win' for a narcissist. You can't try and justify or understand it if you don't have the experience.
Their brains aren't wired normally. To be dead and make others look bad is just one example how they 'win'. It's why estranged parents kill their children to spite the other parent.
I'm not sorry about anything I've posted on here. I have only ever mocked obvious bull, which is what I believe everyone else has done.
All we have done is called out the lies of an obvious fantasist. No one on here needs to feel bad about anything.
Just waiting for notadoc Jess and et al spinning rit that it was all Tattle's fault.
You’ve summed up my thoughts about this whole sorry affair perfectly. I typed out and then deleted about 10 times before I saw this. Thank you
 
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Honestly I'm so pissed off at everyone who enabled him through the years, for their own gain as much as his.

In an alternate universe he's probably a PE teacher in a secondary school, and that's where his ascent should have ended.

I feel terrible about some of the harsh things I have said about him on this thread. I honestly didn’t think he’d end his life, I thought he’d sail through the accusations without any regrets, like other people who have been exposed as fantasists do. He obviously did feel shame. His poor family.
Frankly you shouldn't - he still lied, with damaging lies at that, capitalised on those lies, and took opportunities from others in the meantime. The tragedy doesn't negate that.
 
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Right, I'm going to say something and if it is awful then please feel free to report to mods etc.
I'm very sorry that someone has lost their life, that's awful. Especially as he has children.
However as the survivor of narcissistic abuse i have educated myself over the past few years. Threatening to take your life and actually taking your own life are the tools of a narcissist. Dying by your own hand is the ultimate 'win' for a narcissist. You can't try and justify or understand it if you don't have the experience.
Their brains aren't wired normally. To be dead and make others look bad is just one example how they 'win'. It's why estranged parents kill their children to spite the other parent.
I'm not sorry about anything I've posted on here. I have only ever mocked obvious bull, which is what I believe everyone else has done.
All we have done is called out the lies of an obvious fantasist. No one on here needs to feel bad about anything.
Just waiting for notadoc Jess and et al spinning rit that it was all Tattle's fault.
Yes. I think when his fantasy world was exposed and pulled apart in the media, he could no longer sustain his delusions and suffered a complete narcissistic collapse. He could never have come back from this. I think it's a shame he decided to take his own life, but I'm not actually surprised.
 
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You’ve summed up my thoughts about this whole sorry affair perfectly. I typed out and then deleted about 10 times before I saw this. Thank you
To add - Cambridge and academia in general is at fault more than the MSM or here or anywhere/anyone else imo
 
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Don’t lie your way through life and make tit up kids, mkay?

Canbridge University and the other institutions and individuals along the way that enabled him and didn’t do even the most basic sanity checks have some serious questions to answer, and the spotlight needs to be even more firmly on them now. None of this #BeKind tit letting them off from any investigations into what theyve caused here.
 
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What a mess and how terribly sad to be so caught up in a lie.

I'm fascinated by fantasists and fabulists, but the reality is, they should never reach positions of influence when so clearly unsuited to them. The institutions that enable the likes of Arday and Jack Monroe et al because they present a palatable 'adversity against the odds' story have a lot to answer for.

I'm not inside anyone else's head, but when your sense of self is dependent on a mythology you've built which isn't particularly moored to reality, what happens when the myth starts to unravel?

This is really horrible though. I always want a redemption story, some self awareness. “I lied because I desperately needed to be exceptional and then became trapped maintaining it” is such a human story. Much more human and relatable than the immaculate inspirational hero we've been reading about.

There was an entire life available on the other side of that. He could have taught. Written a completely different book. Talked about why people construct identities? Talked about the seductive feedback loop when institutions start rewarding your mythology. Talked about being black and autistic without needing to be the most extraordinary black autistic person who ever lived. He could have been more interesting because he'd spectacularly ducked up and understood something about himself as a result.

I've experienced similar in my own life, with a person incredibly caught up in their idea of themselves with a similarly tragic end. My friend had countless opportunities for help - more than anyone I've ever known - but was so invested in the character she'd created it didn't matter. It was more important to her than her relationships, friendships and her children in the end. Like watching a car crash over and over again and not being able to change its course.

Death always shifts the narrative though. Understandably so, to a point. But a tragic end doesn't mean a career built on lies is acceptable or shouldn't be questioned.
 
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Honestly I'm so pissed off at everyone who enabled him through the years, for their own gain as much as his.

In an alternate universe he's probably a PE teacher in a secondary school, and that's where his ascent should have ended.


Frankly you shouldn't - he still lied, with damaging lies at that, capitalised on those lies, and took opportunities from others in the meantime. The tragedy doesn't negate that.
Absolutely.
He is ultimately the child who has never been told 'no'.
Same with all of them. Jack Monroe, Jess Taylor and insert any other grifting Narc here.
Their brains are wired differently in the first place and then have adoring parents who enable, encourage and deflect.
He was raised by a fawning mother who told him he was brilliant. All good mums tell their children they are amazing, but this one told her son he shat glitter.
 
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Beautiful post @nothanksbabes

I‘m so sad he couldn't see any other way out. And that he didn’t have anyone in his life who could tell him it was ok for him to be completely ordinary.
 
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