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Yel

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I thought the 35B was a UK/Europe exclusive, but it turns out that it stopped selling in the states a few weeks before James’s palette came out. The 35B palette is identical to James, but £14 cheaper. I wonder, along with cancelling people off the PR list, James requested the 35B to stop production too.



I thought Tati got a lot of backlash from the vitamins when they first were released?

Like all things, nothing to do with the name, it’s the ingredients. Shane! Shut up!
Yep they stopped production of the cheaper pallet as it was very very similar to the James one.

I don't think Tati has had enough of a backlash against her vitamins. Beauty vitamins aren't anything new - I remember at school 20 years ago people were taking them. There's nothing ground breaking or even proven in her vitamins. They might help some people that are deficient in some things, but no more than eating a good diet or vitamins that are 90% cheaper. It's impossible to go on the tube with out seeing a dozen adverts for vitabiotics - they're cheap to make with a huge markup. They might work as the placebo effect is strong and if people are paying $40 a month for several months might make other lifestyle changes if investing in them.

Shame on Shane Dawson for promoting her vitamins (even if it was just a friend favour). He hasn't got a healthy relationship with food and sends out a bad message to buy an expensive magic pill rather than improve your diet.

Just waiting for a new James video, the last apology was so awful he has to do a proper one.
 
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LurkyLou

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Just watched her latest video. I never leave comment on anything I watch, but fuck if I wasn't tempted to on this one. Tati knows better than anyone what it feels like to have everyone coming at you. Or did she forget what happened when she did that collab with JS? She claims she never wanted any of this. Maybe she should have considered the ramifications before she aired JC's dirty laundry to 5 million of her closest buddies. She wanted his attention? Then host a fucking intervention in the privacy of your home. I don't even like JC, but I'm sure he's not in a great place mentally. She created the lynch mob but she's suddenly having second thoughts? Do you smell that? It's the load of bs she just dropped.
 
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Oohthedrama

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Few people are questioning her here, when I dared to question Tati I was called disturbing and made a user lose their faith in humanity
I think you’re reading too deeply into my posts Georgia 😂
I didn’t call you disturbing but my reply really, really seems to have triggered you, if you look back on our additional replies I think you might see we already worked it out and I was open to listening to some of what you said and ended up agreeing to some parts actually 😬
I just didn’t agree with your stand on the age gap and how odd it was that she was willing to be his mentor.

I don’t think it’s an ad when it’s you own company? Wouldn’t that mean all merchandise being discussed by the Influencer who made it would need to have it labelled as an ad?
I don’t read other forums so I just go by what’s here 😉
 
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Oohthedrama

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I think Jeffree has screenshots coming out of his Gucci covered ass.
But not what he’s made out, and he’s made some BIG accusations. If your accounts don’t balance you’re gonna look like a mug.
So he did what he always does,
goes from the “dark place” straight past Mayfair, lands on “reflective avenue” passes the “learning curve” and drops a few grand on the latest LV bag as he passes Go. And the sheep lap it up.
James is a Pratt but he’s proved he’s NOT to be messed with.
Tati and Jeffree have come out of this looking like shady, untrustworthy nasty people.
It’s apparently confirmed by drama channels that Tati had let them know nearly 2 weeks before her video that she would be doing one on James, and they had received it in advance so they could drop an almost immediate response.
So basically she had it planned straight after coachella? Does that add up 🤷‍♀️ I’m lost with the time stamps!

If I was in that social circle, as SOON as I was introduced to anyone of them, I’d be passing them the pen and the NDA and I wouldn’t even say hello before I collected those autographs 🤨

I watched that interview with that Desperate Sam.
Embarrassing, that child needs to find a rock to hide under for a few months.
 
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DirtyLaundry

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You can tell he's young by the amount of enthusiasm and effort be put into that bj.

As he gets older he'll realise he can get the same result with half the work.
 
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Oohthedrama

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Oooooh There was definitely a contract signed, and I believe it was prior to coachella for sure. Maybe it was for security or some kind of additional benefits at coachella (five of our straightest men in the village 😬) if it was cash he’s really worse than I thought 🤨 but you could tell he was definitely following terms and conditions 😐
We watch far too many of the same shit channels you know that right 😂 @GossWhore
Trisha I dip in and out of, I feel a bit dirty watching her too much, but when she messes up I’m always there to give her a view 🤣
Edit. 🙄 that Trisha comment looks bad.
 
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Oohthedrama

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It seems to me from Tati's video that she was annoyed that he never promoted her vitamins
I don’t think so I think the proverbial straw that broke the camels back was that he promoted her competition, and it’s not a makeup pallet, you don’t buy multiple different types to use at the same time 🤷‍♀️ (and promoted them with complete lies about them helping him sleep too 🤣)
I can see how she’s hurt with that
But I still don’t think she would have spoken up until the moment Gabriel got involved. She would Probably just cut him off and throw shade with Jeffree
 
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Booboo123

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I’m just confused over the whole thing. Everyone knew what James is like?? He openly talks about attempting to turn straight men gay, sexually harassing, etc., in his videos, yet no one has ever pulled him up on it before?? All the people unsubscribing from him now must have never had a problem with it before or they wouldn’t have subscribed in the first place? It’s like people can’t think for themselves, and have to follow what all the big YouTubers do.

I’m in no way downplaying his behaviour, it just makes me laugh how like sheep people are. And all the other youtubers are snakes.

The problem with youtubers is that their whole life is YouTube - it’s their job and their social life. So the “situation” isn’t just affecting his work life, it’s affecting the whole of it. Regardless of his behaviour (which before someone accuses me, no I don’t condone or think he should get away with it), I still hope this doesn’t push him over the edge and cause him to do something silly. Must be hard having millions of people turn against you.
 
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Kimchiisbae

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What you all saying about the 500 pound meet and greet tickets then? Ermahgerd. 😱😱 I'm 30 but love makeup and always have and have been watching all the makeup influencers for some time. At first I liked James I found him really sweet and hard working. Now I'm just shocked at how much he rates himself! The fact he sailed Tati down the river with the vitamins, and now the tickets. It a disgusting. He's changed. Or his mask has slipped. But I'm not a fan any more, at all. I also think things are very strained between him and J☆ lately too. Very little interaction on social media. James.hasnt reviewed the blue blood palette, released his latest merch the same day as jefree released his weed merch, and has done a colab with that Dragun woman. He's one shady shady bitch.
 
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thenomad

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James Charles is at 14 million followers now. Wow Tati really spilled that tea. I wish she had receipts on other YT-ers that need to go.

Hopefully the tides keep turning on James. A lot of dirt is coming out in the wake of all of this and the more I read and hear about him, the more disgusted I am with him. So vile.

I’m in the camp of Tati being a mentor to James as being benevolent and not malicious or predatory. The latter is more of James’ M.O. not Tati’s. Considering how cutthroat the industry is and LA in general, what Tati did was above and beyond.

I’m not a fan of Tati’s and I won’t be subscribing to her anytime but I appreciate how she laid out everything about James and providing receipts. How open and honest she was about everything from beginning to end. If James had one redeeming quality I might feel bad how much 💩 he’s been getting but his insincere apology video just proves he doesn’t even care or feel any remorse. It’s still all about him and the acting was terrible. An apology means owning up to something you did wrong but instead he kept being vague or dodging the issue. He made it all about him. That’s not an apology and he was so stupid to post it. It only made him look worse. His PR team must be working overtime to stop the hemorrhaging. If I were them I would quit. It’s a sinking ship.
 
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Oohthedrama

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So he’s admitted the “sister squad” is over. The Dolan twins and Emma were at Coachella at the same time, together 🙄 but not with him.
James just can’t keep friends 🤦🏻‍♀️
He’s getting a lot of flak after the Met upload by the looks of it.
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Jelly Bean

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Yup seems like Tati turned a blind eye to all his bad behaviour even though it was happening right in front of her until he hit her where it really hurts - her wallet. But it's all about trust, not money, trust.
 
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Yel

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They say to be a YouTuber you kinda have to be egotistical, but I think the beauty community takes that above and beyond. And start acting like God.
REAL celebs have smaller egos which is quite funny.
I think having millions of people just tell you that you're amazing goes to their heads.

If you're an actor or singer you get real critiques, for infuencers anyone critical is just called a troll.

I don't think she's going to adress it again and for me James looks very manipulativ.
Yep she's just going to try to move on from this and not clap back 😔 James did have a look of glee on his face but they're all pretty manipulative.

Unlike s8 got at least this drama hasn't been a let down 😆
 
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Oohthedrama

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Nikita making a video called "What Really Happened" after Tati 2nd video

Its ALL clickbait about her Dragun Cosmetics line.

Tati was right when she said James needs better friends

She’s getting absolutely dragged for it and rightly so. I’m so confused by her there is absolutely NO WAY this was gonna go down well with anyone at all.
“nIkKi NooooOooOOOOOOOO, nO, NOooooo, oH GuRlllll nOOOO you dIDn’T hOw couLd YOu” (Zamora voice 😎)

So Jeffree has piped up again I see.
For anyone who didn’t see.....
~ He doesn’t want his “situation” with Nate (because he’s a straight man) to be compared to James going after straight boys.
Nate was “grossed out” by a lot of things he saw with James when they went away together. That’s why he was backing away from James, but he’s still his friend, and basically he has shit friends around him he needs to get rid of 🤷‍♀️
This Feels like a whole load of back tracking.
“I know James is very angry I fully get it” and I hope he takes time off....etc etc
But hold up Jeffree.....Jeffree who dumped his ass from killer merchandise 🤷‍♀️ Not two days ago.
Seriously, it looks like when you’re “cancelled”. The cancellation lasts 2/4 days maximum.

He’s said he’s going on a tweet-delete spree to clean up his account so they don’t keep coming back to bite him constantly.

I just feel it’s all a bit weird, maybe James being “angry” can backfire on Jeffree and Tati and they’ve realised just how much.
 
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GossWhore

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we’re owed a Gabriel Snapchat response.
He’s my “best supporting actress” winner in all this [emoji23]



This gives me second hand anxiety.
I get nervous below 70% and start looking around for a charger [emoji23][emoji27]
There is a name for people like you. [emoji57]
Omg we need those categories for the 2019 Tattle awards

And @Oohthedrama in relation to my charger situation...
 
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Kimchiisbae

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Yes! His attitude stinks now. I think the fact he promoted Tatis rival company is just dreadful. He seems to have lost all sense of morality. Like I said I think a lot has been going behind the scenes with him and Jefree! They used to always tweet each other, now it seems there is nothing. And its rattled my brain that he didn't review blue blood. That's what a friend with such a big platform would do. Like when they colabed with his palette and Js alien palette. He's really had a lot of stick on Twitter the last 24 hours, and I must say its all deserved.
 
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