Jack Monroe #601 Replican't

[CabalofBolorneaise]

If she was drinking and popping pills to the extent she says she was, surely social services should have been alerted by concerned Dad or Grandparents. Who must have been aware on some level. I wasn’t in the canal at the time she was supposedly at her worst.

You’d think.

Even if she was “only” a liar and none of the tales were true, you’d think a concerned Dad would be worried about the tales being spewed online including personal info about his kid and would use all her claims to aid him in a custody case and in stopping her using photos of his son in her interviews (if not on social media at all - I don’t buy that she’s ungovernable in that respect).

Yet the evidence suggests whether or not her tales are true, the family were totally happy for her to use SB as a prop and to lie about him left right and centre - but when she dared say Big D had fired off a cannon, that was swiftly removed.

 

[Walkdengirl]

Was it you who filmed/photographed it and optimistically had a tub of Lurpak on the side to spread on a slice of it, only to find it was crispy mush when it came out of the oven?

Not sure if that was me or not. I'll have to search my post out.

 

[FrumpyCat]

New year is a time to reminisce. So what are the fraus funniest Jack double downs.

I like 'I didn't have a cat before, I've never had cats before this cat, you must be confusing me with someone else - oh Those cats, I thought you meant now.

ETA has anyone looked at Jack's stats on social blade; Elon Musk has managed to out-bleep himself so her X twitter followers must be leaving in droves (and not following her on blue sky).

 

[Walkdengirl]

Was it you who filmed/photographed it and optimistically had a tub of Lurpak on the side to spread on a slice of it, only to find it was crispy mush when it came out of the oven?

I wasn't the lurpack person, this was the 'fudgey' hidden courgette cake, her word not mine it was a soggy revolting mess. Please enjoy the photos!

 

[MancBee]

I wasn't the lurpack person, this was the 'fudgey' hidden courgette cake, her word not mine it was a soggy revolting mess. Please enjoy the photos!

How can Jack have ever made that and thought "that'll do"?

 

[pumbilical cord]

How can Jack have ever made that and thought "that'll do"?

That's her attitude to everything.

 

[Carefree]

How can Jack have ever made that and thought "that'll do"?

Points to the horrifying list of books under her name. All those trees and materials wasted

 

[RinsedHoops]

Are you me? I dress exactly as I did when I was a student, black or blue jeans, long sleeved black t shirt, trainers or black ankle boots. It looks stylish, you'd have no idea if it was M&S or D&G (its M&S, I'd rather spend on the house or travel). I'm well set up financially these days, hence I'm not really interested in 'designer' labels with names/logos on them, I'm not a walking advert.

The richest person I know (and I'm talking hundreds of millions net worth) dresses in jeans and trainers, has driven the same car for the last ten plus years, and it is a mid range Lexus. He's a wise man.

Tbh, if I see someone with a Birkin bag or Gucci trainers, I tend to assume they're a knock off

There are Birkin bags that cost more than my house. So guaranteed if you see one it’s almost certainly a knock off. Similarly I assume every Rolex I see is a knockoff as they’re £15k minimum and have a three year waiting list. I have a turkey Rolex. I’m under no illusion that people think it’s real. I just thought it was nice and you can’t even get an sekonda for the £22 I paid for it

 

[rage naan]

I really do think this is at the heart of it all @rage naan and you’ve pinpointed exactly her problem: that so many addictions are publicly admissible because they’re ultimately attributable to the substance itself, and therefore “forgivable”, whilst an addiction to shopping carries a higher level of shame around self-control.

It’s one of the reasons support for gambling addicts is often deprioritised compared to booze/drugs - less relatable because the “substance” itself isn’t inherently addictive (the other being the lower impact it has on our health service).

Then there’s the complex relationship people have with excessive consumption of material goods to add to that equation and she would be pretty hard pressed to see a situation where she could come clean with family, friends or the public (particularly when denying the root - self-inflicted - cause of her “poverty” so vehemently).

And now she’s doubled down so many times, she can’t imagine she could walk it back.

yes it's my personal favourite theory because it explains everything (dangerous I know). Not just the shame thing but also the whole concept of The Poverty - as has been mithered on extensively, she claims her child went hungry and had no shoes etc and I just don't believe she or her family would let that happen but I do believe that she may well have overspent on credit cards or done pay day loans etc and that that would explain the brown letters and the constant visits from burly bailiffs.

Because I don't otherwise understand how she could have not been able to buy 6p jam. Dgmw I understand that things go wrong and the system fails people very badly but she should have at least been getting housing & child benefit and whatever they had back then that's now UC, shouldn't she? Especially as she had a family & a coparent to help. I know she had some stories about having to leave her pub job to keep her benefits. So yes obviously it would have been incredibly hard to make ends meet as it is for every parent and I don't wanna downplay that, but - the Dickensian levels of deprivation she describes sound more like those awful games you get advertised where there's a woman with no shoes and a.bawling infant starving in a snowdrift. just fantasy.

Anyway all this to say that credit card debt is a much more plausible explanation for her having NOTHING than the Tories forcing all single mothers of infants out onto the street and Asda then kicking them when they're down by putting jam prices up by 2p and that meaning she couldn't eat for a week. And a much more plausible explanation for the brown envelopes and hiding behind the many curtains etc

 

[Onestorytoomany]

I think ma and daddum,'s have phoned the peelers and the CPS ( as she calls them) when she has accused hateful bullies. I don't blame them for letting her think this as it enables them to work with sb without her feeling cornered. If indeed she is a narc and has any personality disorders as predicted it probably the best way to work with her, if it helps her kid get away from her foulness she can blame me( a faceless ninny) all she wants!

 

[SouthendRealEstate]

That's it exactly, The safest assumption is that everything she says is some sort of a lie. It might be a lie to cover up shame or embarrassment. It might be a lie intended to distract or confuse. It might be a lie told to hurt other people. It might even be a lie to pre-empt being called out for being a liar or to set up a gotcha moment for future use. But whatever the intention, whatever form they take, they're all lies.

And, even taking the kindest possible interpretation of what she told Shattenstone, the bits you've highlighted are actually some of the most straightforward. Yes, some of her vast collection of Cotswold Co storage furniture are technically dressers or tallboys, but she's still shown us many more than four actual sideboards - and all of them cost more than £300.

But she's sown just enough confusion that people are suddenly dragged into discussing whether discount codes could be used in a sale, or if it was fair to exclude the cost of delivery and then round down to the nearest hundred pounds, or whether something was a storage bench or a wine console rather than a sideboard.

Or look at her misdirection over the number of tramadols she took (wasn't it 8 a day at worst, not 40?), and apply the same logic to her drinking - a bottle and a half? Maybe that was the largest amount she ever took, or perhaps she meant miniatures...

They say that practice makes perfect, and she's had a lot of practice with telling lies. It's pretty much the only thing she's actually good at.

Inspired by Lucky Escape, could I propose “Lying is pretty much the only thing she's actually good at“ for a thread title nomination

 

[RinsedHoops]

Ohh update on my ouchy neck. I got the good painkillers. However not tramadol and I shan’t be taking 40 a day because they have paracetamol in them and I’ll die.

 

[SouthendRealEstate]

New year is a time to reminisce. So what are the fraus funniest Jack double downs.

I like 'I didn't have a cat before, I've never had cats before this cat, you must be confusing me with someone else - oh Those cats, I thought you meant now.

ETA has anyone looked at Jack's stats on social blade; Elon Musk has managed to out-bleep himself so her X twitter followers must be leaving in droves (and not following her on blue sky).

I liked (liked? I’m not sure that’s the right word) the pencilled-in brow and the “Look! See! I don’t have Botox” doubling down. Ah, good times.

 

[rage naan]

I liked (liked? I’m not sure that’s the right word) the pencilled-in brow and the “Look! See! I don’t have Botox” doubling down. Ah, good times.

ha yes, a cousin to "portrait mode is not a filter"

 

[Limey]

There are Birkin bags that cost more than my house. So guaranteed if you see one it’s almost certainly a knock off. Similarly I assume every Rolex I see is a knockoff as they’re £15k minimum and have a three year waiting list. I have a turkey Rolex. I’m under no illusion that people think it’s real. I just thought it was nice and you can’t even get an sekonda for the £22 I paid for it

I did used to live in the posh end of Celery Town so no doubt I saw the odd one or two genuine Birkins, but I'm in Manchester now so they're probably all off Temu.

 

[HotesTilaire]

I liked (liked? I’m not sure that’s the right word) the pencilled-in brow and the “Look! See! I don’t have Botox” doubling down. Ah, good times.

Ah the series of myth-busting posts she never did fulfil past the first one. Take it away, Dave!

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I did used to live in the posh end of Celery Town so no doubt I saw the odd one or two genuine Birkins, but I'm in Manchester now so they're probably all off Temu.

From Cheetham Hill

 

[rage naan]

Duolingo keeps trying to sell me some extra pricey AI bull. I wonder if it's available if you're doing the greek course

 

[Potatoes O’Houlihan]

Latest from X:

(tl;dr: still tanking, zero engagement and it’s a glorious thing)

 

[Ms Biscuit]

Favorite double-down:

She posted that Georgia Church Suppers, a recipe collection she claimed to have read, was an example of Eastern European "bangers." The book was clearly one of those American Junior-League-type publications (they are legion), as even a cursory glance at the cover revealed. Georgia, the US state. MUCH hilarity ensued here and elsewhere. Jack tried to ignore it but finally snarked that it was a simple mistake she'd made because she's not very good at geography.

Like, WHAT? WTF does that have to do with anything? How does Jack being tit at basic geography explain away the fact that she could not possibly have looked at, much less tried to cook, a single recipe from that book without realizing that it had absolutely nothing to do with Georgia the country and former Soviet satellite state? It was obvious that in her attempt to be the bestest expert on cookery ever, she did a simple Google search, copy-pasted a bunch of titles, and got caught in an embarrassing lie. And simply couldn't admit it.

Twaaaaaaat.

 

[hoopdedoo]

Re guest's claim to taking 40 tramadol a day, Matthew Perry said in his memoir (a very sad but enlightening read) that at one point he was taking up to 55 Vicodin a day and still functioning. However, he also lost a lot of weight and doesn't remember much of the Friends shows that he filmed while he was in that state.

So it's remotely possible that guest could have still been up and around while consuming the amount of opioids she claims she did. But there would have been physical signs that she was abusing that much, and I don't recall any comments or photos to that effect.

I agree with @rage naan that shopping addiction and credit card debt explain much more of guest's behaviour than substance abuse does.