Jack Monroe #523 Everything she does is pointless busywork that solves nothing

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Who can forget the GQ companion piece to Jack patronising Marcus in a fairly dubious way?
The GQ article a bit later with Marcus and Fingers Kerridge where they almost openly mock the whole meatball experience 🤭

Marcus on being asked about it. Doesn't sound like something he wants to be reminded of.

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And this final paragraph 😂

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Oh that is *perfect*. She must be a laughing stock (cube) on the chef circuit by now.
 
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I don’t think Mr Dogs and me ever watch anything without having a conversation about where we’ve seen a particular actor before, and if it was in the thing I liked with that bloke from the other thing or that crappy sci-fi thing with the woman with the hair, and then taking a quick detour to IMDB to find it was neither of those things but actually an episode of Casualty from 2018.
 
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Is it my Twitter playing up or has she deleted the photos from her ‘two boxes of hair dye under the stairs’ post?

Or maybe Elon has just got sick of looking at them.
 
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Is it my Twitter playing up or has she deleted the photos from her ‘two boxes of hair dye under the stairs’ post?

Or maybe Elon has just got sick of looking at them.
I think Twitter's acting up, I went for a nose and got a really slow load time and one of the photos is showing and the other gives a 'an error occurred loading this image'
 
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I don’t think Mr Dogs and me ever watch anything without having a conversation about where we’ve seen a particular actor before, and if it was in the thing I liked with that bloke from the other thing or that crappy sci-fi thing with the woman with the hair, and then taking a quick detour to IMDB to find it was neither of those things but actually an episode of Casualty from 2018.
And how many of us spot someone we think we recognise, go trawling imdb for whatever you’re watching, then skip across to Wikipedia, before ending up down a rabbit hole of not only what else they’ve been in but also what else other cast members have been in, including cast members for films/series that aren’t the one you’re watching 🤯 No? Nobody? Just me? Am I…….guest? 😱
 
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I don’t think Mr Dogs and me ever watch anything without having a conversation about where we’ve seen a particular actor before, and if it was in the thing I liked with that bloke from the other thing or that crappy sci-fi thing with the woman with the hair, and then taking a quick detour to IMDB to find it was neither of those things but actually an episode of Casualty from 2018.
The worst is when I've recognised an actor, convinced I must have watched a whole series with them in they're so familiar then can't find a single show they've been in that I've seen
 
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Hello

I've been reading the Jack Monroe threads for a while.

My Jack story is this:

I've known about and tracked Bootstrap Cook since the beginning. My own life was thrown into upheaval around the same time as JM came into public consciousness as I had to leave my job due to a very stressful situation that compromised my health. Since then, I've been on the rollercoaster of living on a very low income just as this coincided with the austerity era.

Over the last 10+ years, I've experienced it all --- going through the invasive benefits assessment processes, being wrongly removed from the system without warning, being migrated onto the (initially bureaucratically disastrous) Universal Credit, losing a long-term, happy, private tenancy & being thrust into the temporary accommodation hellscape. All while trying to obtain ongoing therapeutic mental health support (which doesn't really exist in the NHS) and experiencing both my physical and mental health getting worse and worse.

Currently, I'm in middle age, with no savings left, living in insecure, sh1tty temporary accommodation with no hope of a secure council tenancy in London, and years away from the carefully curated and busy career I once had.

I became interested in Jack because I was having to turn to food banks and looking for ways to live within the constraints of a meagre benefits income. Over the last decade, I've become much more knowledgeable about poverty in Britain, from a systemic standpoint alongside my so-called lived experience. Jack Monroe was an appealing public figure who initially seemed to be successful in getting media attention on the issue, especially as so much of the poverty discourse in this country seems to focus on food security, and food banks were proliferating.

Since then, my understanding has deepened and I've become so much more alert to the shadow side of the -- for want of a better phrase -- "poverty industry", namely the influence peddlers, profiteers, dodgy charities and carpet baggers who are drawn to the sector like moths to the perverbial flame.

I have tried engaging Jack Monroe several times. Occasionally in the early years, she'd put out requests for information or signal a potential collab and I emailed or DMed her about this, out of interest in possibly also writing about what I was seeing and to potentially boost the local, independent food bank I had used and now support. She never once replied, even just with a holding message or an automated acknowledgement. That was the first black mark against her name.

Gradually, I got tired of the constant hystrionics and internet feuding on Twitter, the unrelenting posting of her private life and celeb-type nonsense which seemed at odds with being a serious campaigner. She looked more like a TOWIE schlebb than anyone trying to change the world for good. I hated her Oxfam junket to Tanzania -- I have a long association with international development and I hate the f*cking poverty tourism of those organisations (getting better in recent years but still ....). Second and third black marks.

It was the Covid-era begging, in parallel with obviously lucrative brand collabs, that finally did it for me. I spent 2020 running a local mutual aid group that supported and fed all sorts of people totally cut adrift by the shutting down of local services due to lockdown. I did this from my sofa using just my phone, while recovering from a serious health incident of my own in Feb 20, and I was furious that Monroe did duck-all to actually make things better for people in poverty during that period. Her constant complaining just did my head in.

Then Awfully Molly laid everything out and filled in some gaps in my knowledge and I found my way here.... In the meantime, I've tried challenging her on Twitter and been blocked. The black marks have now all melted together in a massive, indelible stain that's just tainted her forever.

I long for the day when there's some public dismantling of the whole Jack Monroe edifice. It's already happening, brick by single brick, I suppose, but I really long for a properly scandalous, tabloid-esque, controlled implosion. Or a lovely big, bureaucratic public enquiry, with forensic, ahem, scrutiny by trained legal eagles (a person can dream).

So.
 
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The worst is when I've recognised an actor, convinced I must have watched a whole series with them in they're so familiar then can't find a single show they've been in that I've seen
Yeah "Hmm, well I guess I might have seen them in that one episode of Doctors they were in 12 years ago."
 
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I think Twitter's acting up, I went for a nose and got a really slow load time and one of the photos is showing and the other gives a 'an error occurred loading this image'
Yeah, it's screwed. Even if you've got an account and are logged in, it's only letting you load 800 tweets per day - but since it loads 20 tweets at a time, that means you can only open the homepage / view a thread / perform a search 40 times in a day.

There's lots of speculation about what exactly has gone wrong - Elon's blaming it on AI, others are saying that it's the result of emergency cost-cutting measures - but I don't think anyone knows for sure. Lots of their engineers are on leave for the 4th July holidays, so it might take a while to fix...

Anyone still relying heavily on Twitter should take this as a wake-up call - it's not going to be around in its current form forever.
 
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Imagine his take: “Ummmm, well she seemed nice at first. She talked a lot but I didn’t mind cos I didn’t know what to say to her. I did feel sorry for her though. I don’t know exact details but from what she said (quite a lot) it sounds like she was destitute for about 10 years! I wish she hadn’t worn the heels though. She obviously wasn’t used to them and nearly fell over a few times. Someone told me afterwards that she was a famous food blogger but honestly I’ve never heard of her. I wasn’t proud of the food. It was a bit sloppy. I didn’t try any and it’s just as well cos I heard the school had an outbreak of the people after.”
Quoting myself like a bleep to drop this in here:

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As I'm a born again newbie I thought I'd give my origin story & have a wild speculate about her finances & house move.
Read about her in guardian at the start, read the bean burger recipe & some others, figured she must have been utterly desperate to make such incomplete, insufficient, unappealing meals but thought 'good for her for writing about her difficulties so openly & honestly'. ( :LOL: )
My turning point was the 'i'm an alcoholic' article, I leapt on it as I had alcohol abuse issues myself. It was such utter guff that the scales fell instantly from my eyes. I came to tattle a while later (sarah akwisombe - I nearly signed up with her coaching biz so tattle literally saved me from a scammer - eternally grateful to that thread) bonus was I found Jacks thread. Oh happy day!

I'm firmly of the belief that there is no house move. Never was. She made it up to score a point with someone for some likely imaginary arguement & it got well out of hand. Then she actually started believing it herself & packed a load of boxes. :ROFLMAO:
Also I doubt that that there's any savings etc. I reckon that patreon doesn't bring in as much as is often speculated here, I think the estimate is average 14 quid? I used to work in charity fundraising for individual donors, there is an attitude that 'every little helps' & 'I do my bit'. The impression I often got was that for the donors the act of giving is what was important (& most important is the warm fuzzy the donor gets not the use the charity makes of the donations) so I'm of the view that Jack gets mostly small amounts (3.50 level) as tokens of appreciation. I further think that she got duck all from Grifty Kitchen except for the advance which would have been modest surely? As many media & events fraus have already noted, book festivals don't pay much more than expenses. I'm in two minds about Sue Lee as I think a lot of folk are all talk and no action so whilst they encouraged her they didn't get their wallets out. Had she actually been intending to sue & done a proper legal crowdfunder, making the process and progress clear I think she might have absolutely coined it (i might have chipped in myself for mischief) but also would have had to spend it on a legal case rather than sideboards.
I would eat a vat of peach & chickpea curry with a side of veg peel surprise to know how many copies of grifty kitchen she sold. I think the canal would collectively expire of laughter / shock if this was revealed. x
 
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She's just so bloody boring. Been in bed all day with a stomach bug (the day before a new job, YAY) and I could have done with a chaos.
 
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basically what's going on at twitter is

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(you can tell by the quality of this meme that I have stolen it. this is not a lo fi kcc original)

welcome to the newbies! 💜
 
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As I'm a born again newbie I thought I'd give my origin story & have a wild speculate about her finances & house move.
Read about her in guardian at the start, read the bean burger recipe & some others, figured she must have been utterly desperate to make such incomplete, insufficient, unappealing meals but thought 'good for her for writing about her difficulties so openly & honestly'. ( :LOL: )
My turning point was the 'i'm an alcoholic' article, I leapt on it as I had alcohol abuse issues myself. It was such utter guff that the scales fell instantly from my eyes. I came to tattle a while later (sarah akwisombe - I nearly signed up with her coaching biz so tattle literally saved me from a scammer - eternally grateful to that thread) bonus was I found Jacks thread. Oh happy day!

I'm firmly of the belief that there is no house move. Never was. She made it up to score a point with someone for some likely imaginary arguement & it got well out of hand. Then she actually started believing it herself & packed a load of boxes. :ROFLMAO:
Also I doubt that that there's any savings etc. I reckon that patreon doesn't bring in as much as is often speculated here, I think the estimate is average 14 quid? I used to work in charity fundraising for individual donors, there is an attitude that 'every little helps' & 'I do my bit'. The impression I often got was that for the donors the act of giving is what was important (& most important is the warm fuzzy the donor gets not the use the charity makes of the donations) so I'm of the view that Jack gets mostly small amounts (3.50 level) as tokens of appreciation. I further think that she got duck all from Grifty Kitchen except for the advance which would have been modest surely? As many media & events fraus have already noted, book festivals don't pay much more than expenses. I'm in two minds about Sue Lee as I think a lot of folk are all talk and no action so whilst they encouraged her they didn't get their wallets out. Had she actually been intending to sue & done a proper legal crowdfunder, making the process and progress clear I think she might have absolutely coined it (i might have chipped in myself for mischief) but also would have had to spend it on a legal case rather than sideboards.
I would eat a vat of peach & chickpea curry with a side of veg peel surprise to know how many copies of grifty kitchen she sold. I think the canal would collectively expire of laughter / shock if this was revealed. x
Someone amazing on Twitter shared partial week results of 1.9k units, the one prior did 3.2k.

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Apologies to original screen shotter my phone decapitated the post so cannot credit you for your work.

The Patreon tracker has a range of revenue estimates from £3.50 - £20 per subscriber.
 
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Someone amazing on Twitter shared partial week results of 1.9k units, the one prior did 3.2k.

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Apologies to original screen shotter my phone decapitated the post so cannot credit you for your work.

The Patreon tracker has a range of revenue estimates from £3.50 - £20 per subscriber.
thank you! I will check Patreon tracker posts. Imagine how many copies of Grifty she might have shifted if she'd lifted a lazy finger to promote it. x
 
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I think her average patreon subs must be in the lower end because if more people were paying more they would have stopped paying years ago when no rewards appeared, and also because it's easy not to bother cancelling a £3.50 sub for ages as it can feel like more effort than it's worth whereas you'd cancel £25 pdq after realising you were getting nothing for your money.
However we know she brings in £3.5k a month at the very least and the rest for sideboard and j1g money. I earn around £60k 🍉 and bring home about £3.5k if you don't count pension subs so it's a substantial salary she's making from patreon alone.
my opinion on the house situation is that she WAS buying somewhere - probably a small one bed that was a stretch with her grifted income having been stable for enough years - but it got stalled and then fell through and she's too feart of the backlash to say so. She can't say she was buying as nobody in poverty can buy a property and she can't say she just changed her mind about leaving the bungahovel because she's made such a fuss about how she can't afford it and it's a bleephole.
 
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The worst is when I've recognised an actor, convinced I must have watched a whole series with them in they're so familiar then can't find a single show they've been in that I've seen
When I do that, it usually turns out they were in an advert years ago!
 
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