Trying to research for my thesis but I can't escape tattle
This. Has she actually liballed Jeremy Kyle in the last few days? He’s an odious little twerp but can’t see him tasking kindly to Jack describing him as “handsy “ . Although he may be but nothing out there suggests he’s a groper…serial shagger maybe but not a groper.View attachment 1312409
Ohhhhh TD, hello
If ever she were to be expecting again, she'd be wielding the fact like a shield to deflect all criticism, just as she wields all her labels. Won't be able to say a word against her as it's putting stress on a pregnant lady, then a 'new mum' etc etc. She'd be even more of a horror, imo.I think her need for another baby stems from attention too, her SB is older now so probably not giving her enough or any attention perhaps like he once did. I don't think she can handle that soon he won't be there anymore and that is a very real possibility that she could be rattling around that house on her Todd. Like I said earlier is up to her, her body and all but having a baby to fill a void will never be a good idea.
True, she'd be straight into 'how can I monetise this?'. She must be kicking herself for not getting into Mummy blogging when the going was good, she colud have retired by now. Picking 'poverty' as your cosplay isn't the smartest move.If ever she were to be expecting again, she'd be wielding the fact like a shield to deflect all criticism, just as she wields all her labels. Won't be able to say a word against her as it's putting stress on a pregnant lady, then a 'new mum' etc etc. She'd be even more of a horror, imo.
I actually got a very similar looking pair in F&F. They are comfy. Yes I sometimes shop in Tesco. I’m fancy like that.I like them.
I might try to find an etsy dupe.
Some of these comments areJust saw that I had a tab open with the comments before the telegraph deleted them, as Jack wanted them for her case logging them here for her legal team. I it helps the case progress
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David Robinson
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The poor are fine. Their staple foods such as chips, pizza and other unhealthy options have all dropped in price.
Sadly the only people affected are those creating proper home cooked meals.
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James Beveridge
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Jack should get labour to order Sunak to introduce a windfall tax on supermarkets that are profiting from these price rises to fund handouts to the poor until Sunak deems that the prices are reasonable.
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Neal Brown
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Ignore Jack Monroe. And ignore the advice to suffer cold, tinned, oily sardine meals given by numerous spartan commentators here. Take a tip on managing your food spending from the former deputy leader of Westminster City Council, Robert Davis. Davis enjoyed 514 'gifts and hospitality' in three years, in his official council role. His declarations reveal that on one day he managed two fine gifted lunches. Davis resigned after an investigation into his conduct. He is a model example to the feckless, lazy poor everywhere on how to take fiscal responsibility and live within income
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Paul Ferguson
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That renowned economic analyst, Jack Monroe
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Times Refugee
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4 out of the top 6 products are wheat based, a staple which has doubled in price this year.
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Hu McG
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Couldn't help but notice that the BBC have run this person's opinion as fact today, and offered no challenge to her cherry-picked stats.
Just another 'Tories bad' piece by the BBC, who can run it because they are just reporting what someone else said .......
Biased Broadcasting Corporation
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Tommy Gavin
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BBC are a disgrace.
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Patrick Freel
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Why is everyone so bloody enormous? They aren't starving that's for sure.
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Piggy Malone
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Why is this woman’s opinion given any prominence?
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Diana Partridge
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Probably, because it is assumed that anyone who votes Conservative has never been poor.
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Athena Promachos
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Because she's a middle class person's idea of what a poor person looks like. She was hard up for a few months ten years ago and has been doing performative poverty every since. It's netted her a nice little earner. She has hundred of patreon followiers paying her a monthly subscription.
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Mike Hamilton
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A better way to illustrate the poor would be to compare the definition of the poor in the '40s and '50s with todays so called poor
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Piggy Malone
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Or compare the poor in India with the poor in Islington.
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DD YY
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I don’t think anyone takes Monroe seriously, there’s a whole load of commentary on a site called tattle life about her claims and behaviour online.
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Richard Tickner
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Since when did crisps count as food? Hardly essential.
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Mabel Burlington
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Onions and bread?! I can't think what goodness is in an onion but you're obvs still here to tell the tale. I have personally lived on the baked beans and egg diet for many months and it really does sustain life very well. We probably did have bread now and again and i'm sure we always kept a pack of wheet biscs in for our baby. She had sardine and potato i seem to recall. BUt we were beans and egg only pretty much. Never did any long term harm at all. We were thin, but not ill.
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Anthony Daly
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Crisps are party food according to MSM. Along with pre-packed sandwiches and orange juice. A luxury.
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Andrew Rossiter
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The Left and Facts. Like oil and water.
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Gay Tory
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Let’s not forget she was a Labour Party member, so is clearly willing to hurt a Tory government.
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David Wood
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A poor person will depend more on pasta than other people. I remember as a graduate student, I basically lived on pasta with shop brand ketchup. Bread goes stale, potatoes go off, but with pasta you have no waste and you can buy it in bulk as soon as you get your monthly paycheck. So a 50 percent increase in value oasta will have a massive impact. Also, a rich person will spend as little as 10percent of their income or even less on food, even if that includes oysters and champagne, while a poor person will pretty much spend everything that's left after rent and electricity on food, so 6 percent inflation have a much bigger impact overall for someone who is on a tight budget.
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Diana Partridge
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I did consider it before I wrote, but It seems that most households have a freezer of sorts (not all) and there are ways to save money, if food is correctly stored. I have been poor, and remember cooking on a gas ring, in my bedsit in Cambridge many years ago. Life has moved on for me, but I am still open to advice on how to save money.
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Ann Higman
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Ah bedsit days, living in Exeter in the 70s, a shilling in the meter and eating boiled cabbage! Surprisingly l still love cabbage but fried in butter these days!
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M Lucking
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Does anybody listen to this person?
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Derek Kendle
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The BBC apparently.
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Diana Partridge
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No. I think she was very poor once, and made meals for £1. She wrote a book about it. She has always been critical of the Government. No surprises there, I guess.
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Auntie Macassar
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Isn't this woman from a very middle class family, and then decided to do the poor, victimised stance?
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Giacomo Freeze Frog
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Yes
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Iain Harris
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Never let the facts get in the way of a good scare story….
We should be used to this idea now, post Covid.
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Times Refugee
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Covid gave us the media expert...
A different expert every other day, each with a different theory, each supposedly correct (according to the media), but all with one thing in common... They were wrong.
The media could wash their hands of them by using that many it's, but's, possibly's, might be's, maybe's etc that the 'story' they wrote should have started
Once Upon a Time.
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David Payne
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And that sums up journalism - they write "stories"!
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Chris Cox
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Quite why anyone would pay attention to this person baffles me. She's a woman when it suits her, but if she needs a bit of press coverage, tells the world she's 'gender fluid'. Deranged is probably the best word for it.
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Tad Stone
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"Gender fluid." Does that mean she wets herself unexpectedly.
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Hugh Cole
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There should be a statutory obligation to interview all people who go to a food bank. Not to find out if they are genuinely in desperate need but much more importantly to find out how did it come to this
What choices did they make, what decisions did they take which led them to be in this desperate predicament in one of the world's strongest economies and one of the most ordered countries in the world.
There should be dozens of clever people doing research as I outline above to ascertain common factors with recommendations for policy the primary one being........'God helps those who are able to help themselves but choose not to'.
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Diana Partridge
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You can get a ‘crisis loan’ very quickly, but your benefits are reduced for a few months until it is paid. I think it is quite likely that the £650 grant for the cost of living, will be spent on other things, by some recipients, and not necessarily on essentials.
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J Clark
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Thoughtful comment, thank you.
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Interference Fit
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Half a tub of veetee microwave rice 35p.
1 Tin Aldi sardines 35p.
Chop in some spring onion, peppers and tomato, drizzle with olive oil.
Delicious and nutritious for £1.
Many Japanese live to over 90 on fish and rice.
Nearly half of Uk adults are now obese and we throw out a third of all food we buy. This “crisis” is one of health and fecklessness.
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Interference Fit
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Yes uncooked rice is much cheaper. My little recipe can be made in around 3 minutes, which is an attempt to thwart the “it’s too much effort” types.
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Interference Fit
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You can buy a bunch of 10 spring onions for 65p. 2x onions for the meal is 13p.
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john Charles
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You do not need education, you do not need to work, family plan, worry about money or take responsibility for your own life.
All you need is a sperm donor and a taxpayer and you are set for life along with thousands of champagne socialists like JM to tell you "you deserve it"
She is everything that is wrong with the UK today
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Heather Jeeves
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Sorry don’t agree with your analogy. She is trying to help families and is very popular.
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Jason Brown
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I think her cause is a good one. Helping families with cheap meal options is a skill severely lacking from my generation downwards (millennials).
However, recently on twitter she was crying about being attacked by people who are right leaning (read: they had a public but a generally polite disagreement).
It’s always the same old play with a lot of these luvvies: good cause, try to put themselves above being criticised and then play the victim card when they get political and are disagreed with.
Don’t play the game if you can’t hack disagreements.
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P Jackson
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They are thin-skinned virtue-signallers. Probably over-compensating for some perceived lack in their lives.
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Tad Stone
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Teach them to cook. I'm 70 and have been cooking for over 60 years. And I'm a man.
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Mark Jenkins
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So she lied?
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Hu McG
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She very carefully picks certain stats to support her narrative, and just as carefully ignored the ones that didn't. Of course, the BBC helpfully, didn't fact check it.
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Sandip Basu
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Did you read the article? Do you know what statistics are? Statistics can be interpreted in different ways. If anything, JM got many things right and other things wrong.
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Cia Hug
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“Poverty campaigner Jack Monroe”
Pull the other one - “Millionaire poverty tourist Jack Monroe” is a more accurate description.
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Anthony Thomas
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Never argue with someone who has made up their mind and written about it in the Observer or the Guardian. Totally closed minds.
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P Self
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If your food bill goes up on a low salary at the same rate as someone on a high salary, then is a higher proportion of your income. You middle class DT readers need to stop running with your anti woke agenda. She doing a lot more to support people that you lot just being horrible about her and everyone who doesn’t agree with you - JM, the BBC blah blah blah. EDITED
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J C Clarke
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Lost me when you spouted “truth to power” . Now you want to provide eating out for the idle how won’t/don’t cook, whatever next?
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John Newton
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Peace on Earth
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rosemary elwell
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Pick a statistic, any statistic then twist it to suit your personal opinion and preferences and political allegiances. People do it constantly, this is just a bit more of the same.
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King Slim
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I know what you mean, but this isn't an instance of spin, its an instance of being untruthful.
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Mark Cooper
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Food is still remarkably cheap in the UK (and I don't think that is a bad thing). You can get 500g of spaghetti in Aldi for 23p.
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David Williams
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It doesn't do the Italians any harm!
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ian craig
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Eggs are exactly the same price in real terms here as in a Nepalese village.
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george mills
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Her father was in the fire service and got her a good job in the office earning a decent salary that she gave up. Anyone outside the guardian bubble needs a reality check EDITED
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Chris Bellamy
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Fire service. No bubble here, just a balanced view as a result of being informed, open minded too.
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Mike Allrn
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Why does the DT (and some of its readers) seem to consider Jack Monroe an opponent to be attacked? Surely people on low incomes not being able to afford food is something we all care about?
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Mike Allrn
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The ONS data shows own brands getting more expensive faster for several months, it has since evened out. But when she raised it the data shows she was right.
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J C Clarke
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Might do if they weren’t nearly all fat, tattooed and in and out of the bingo halls and betting shops, nail parlours . They can afford food but need to make lifestyle choices like the rest of the population.
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Heather Jeeves
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Horrible vindictive article. She is trying to support poor families.
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D Hargrave
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No she has been called out. Her statements were/ are false.
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Ted Fowler
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Why do you dislike poor people?
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Dan Burne
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If food outlay is a higher percentage of your outgoings (as it typically is for those less well off), you will feel a disproportionately high impact of increasing food prices (even if increases of budget food prices are in line with overall food prices).
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Ben Harper
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Why are you attacking someone who is fighting for those with less voice? Jack literally worked with them for these figures and they prove her point. The cost of potatoes is meaningless when people can't afford the energy to cook them but its presented as a gotcha!
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Derek White
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Why should anyone take any notice of him / her, I certainly don't?
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Heather Jeeves
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Lots do though.
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Kathryn Cole
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why are crisps and pasta and fruit squash on this list but no vegetables (except for potatoes) and no fresh fruit? amazed to hear Sophie Raworth refer to crisps the other day as an 'essential'. How weird is some people's relationship with food for nutrition.
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Chris Bellamy
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Jack Monroe's goal is to help the very poorest in society eat better food and in some cases actually be able to budget for nutritious daily meals when they otherwise wouldn't have them. There is a huge cost of living crises for some people in this country, but here we find so much ignorance of what's going on, it's like she's the enemy to some of you. Learn more about your enemy and in doing so educate yourself about the world outside of your fluffy existence.
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Bee Gee
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They. You just misgendered them.
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Office Trolley
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Chris, she chose to give up her/his fireservice job and chose to have a child while living off working people's taxes.
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Iain Duncan
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Strange, the graph shows that rice has gone up by around 25% yet Aldi are still selling Everyday Essentials Long Grain Rice 1kg for £0.45. Lies, damned lies and ONS statistics!
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KATH AVERY
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She must be important! The BBC devoted a whole edition of their FOOD PROGRAMME to her to remind us all that we are the lucky ones to be able to afford to eat nice food! I was suitably admonished after half an hour.
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Stephen Pel
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And no BBC fact check
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Philip Bishop
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Judging by the graph published here, it looks like Jack Monroe was bang on the money with her comments when she made them and successfully had the impact she sought. Good on her.
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Philip Bishop
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She made her comments just before the black line went above the blue line.
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Ruth Cherry
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I think we all learned in the past two years that graphs say whatever SAGE want them to say
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William Rusbridge
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People now spend less of their take home pay on food than ever.
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Robert Standfield
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I was a bit sceptical about your assertion but youre absolutely right. https://assets.publishing.service.g...ent_data/file/597666/FF75Timeline-09mar17.pdf
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J Clark
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Pity about the housing bit eh?
Food costs, and indeed the cost of any essentials, should never, ever be viewed in isolation.
That is sub BB€-Guardian-Rejoin level 'thinking'. EDITED
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Mabel Burlington
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I deliberately looked at the cost of budget staples when i was in Aldi just last Tuesday. Prices are down as they have expanded their "essentials" range. So large can baked beans 22p. Large brown loaf 32p. I bought it and it makes decent enough toast. Not tried it as bread yet, but looks all right. 6 eggs 69p. Bag frozen chips 49p. You can get quite a few meals out of those kinds of staples. Their tinned sardines were always 36p and tinned mackeral 40 something pence but they might have gone up as forgot to check those. I still have a lot of tinned fish bought a couple of years ago - tuna, mackeral. Always comes in handy. EDITED
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Elizabeth Wyatt
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I think the supermarkets are making an effort to keep down the price of basics items (Iceland say they make no profit on them at the moment), and this is maybe due to Jack Monroe's campaigning.
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Mike Gutteridge
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I have just been in a Primark in one of the poorest towns in the UK. It was astonishing to see so many people queuing to pay with armfuls of clothing.
It would appear that this is normal for a lunchtime.
Are these people giving any thought to ensuring they have money put aside for emergencies or will they be looking to the Government for help!
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David Sanftenberg
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Are you aware of what Primark is? It's a discount clothing shop. These people are not buying designer labels.
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Mike Gutteridge
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It is completely immaterial what price the clothing costs. The point of my comment is you do not priorities fashion over having a financial buffer to see you through a rainy day. I don’t normally react to criticism but I have say your comment was absolutely stupid. You must be a fan of Rebecca Vardy!
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Vernon Stradling
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Don't encourage her.
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john Charles
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Yet another wealthy successful campaigner for the "downtrodden and poor", God help her if these people lifted themselves and succeeded, her gravy train would be over EDITED
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John Paterson
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Smartphones, Sky subs, coloured hair, tattoos etc; all come before food, innit?
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Interference Fit
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And junk food delivered by gig economy because they’re too lazy to even go pick up their already prepared food.
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steven oliver
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What the middle class don't understand is that working class people do not need to educated on the price of a loaf of bread is because they already know likewise they do not want to be lectured in how to shop and what to eat by some middle class poverty crusader.
Working class folk aremore clued up about the economy than most as it's a every day occurrence to them and not a fad.
Phew glad I got that off me chest what liberal do gooder wants it next.
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Jamie Smith
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Cancel sky. check phone contract. stop smoking. stop drinking. stop having kids you can't afford. try and get a job. try and train to get a better job.
thats all the suggestions i have for now.
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J Clark
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Patronising generalisations don't add much value. Those who are truly scraping by have already done most of those things.
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Bee Gee
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A Twitter they/them luvvie does not a financial expert make.
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Sandip Basu
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She is not a luvvie. She is a campaigner, having herself been a victim of absolute poverty. She does not purport to be a financial expert - she explains it as she has seen it, and offers advice on how to improve life for the poorest amongst us. If you think she's a luvvie I think you've confused her with someone else.
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Office Trolley
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If Jack is poor it is because of her lifestyle choices.
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Steve Willis
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No surprise. She’s part of the fifth column. Probably a Common Purpose trained Trot EDITED
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Jane Clemetson
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Eh?
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John McQuillan
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Looks like between September and January she was right.....according to the chart. EDITED
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Mark Lilley
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I was in my local Morrisons earlier and got a delicious freshly cooked chicken for less than £4, which could easily have fed a family of four. Unfortunately my plans for several meals were scuppered by our Labrador Cora who can now reach the bar in the kitchen!
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Ian Crompton
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Jack who ? In spite of recent rises, basic food to prepare yourself is still cheap. You have to make an effort. EDITED
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David Sanftenberg
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Poor people make the biggest efforts already, out of necessity. It's the well to do middle classes who are the laziest in my experience.
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Robert Hope
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Did the ONS track the price of my favourite delicacy - a chip buttie on white bread with brown sauce? Delicious!
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John Newton
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Has to be with red sauce.
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David Conley
1 DAY AGO
so we should eat sausage & chips instead of pasta & mince, save money die younger, nice choice.
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Luigi Love
1 DAY AGO
Poorer families spend all in come and have no propensity to save. They will always be hit harder by price rises.
Wealthier households don’t spend 100% of their income on subsistence - thus have a propensity to save.
Additionally supermarkets in poorer areas aren’t always cheaper - they can’t always travel further.
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Piggy Malone
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And yet there will be a flourishing tattoo parlour and multiple betting shops on every high street, where people on low pay spend their disposable income. EDITED
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John Newton
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Don't forget nail shops. Outward show is important to them.
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J Clark
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Hard to take a woman who insists on using a man's name seriously. EDITED
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Jonathan Muller
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Jack Monroe chose to become a single parent and had been complaining about the miserliness of the benefits the state provides ever since.
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Jane Knight
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Shame the price of tesco cheap cheese has actually gone up! Ms Munroe was actually commenting about the availability of the cheaper ranges. The ONS admitted at lunch time that if one had to trade up a brand if pasta the increase was 20%. As usual one can prove anything with statistics
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Tad Stone
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Who is Jack Monroe?
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sylvie baxter
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A single parent who achieved fame through somehow publicising her cheap meals. Cook book followed.
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Gary Mack
1 DAY AGO
Too many single parents!! Did “they” give birth?
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Chris Bellamy
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I rented a room to a friend who was living on a pittance while he saved. His diet was made up of the items that are listed in the chart above as being above the rate of inflation, pasta considerably, rice too. Basic calories that are as cheap as you get. Also many are missing the point. Another pound on your Lamb joint, say £13 to £14 or Organic Eggs going from £1.80 to £2.10, those increases either don't hit the sides or you can opt for a cheaper product. When you're already at the lowest product price you have nowhere to go other than cutting back on quantity which will mean skipping meals. It's not rocket science and why people here are unable to understand and further more try and rubbish someone helping is beyond me.
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Chris Bellamy
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Pizza and cheese would be considered a luxury. Some people really are that impoverished. That first graph is too vague to give you a sense of how it affects the very poorest. It says that the rate of inflation in comparison was more, then less, then more, and on and on. When you have say £2.60 in your pocket to buy food, say pasta, a tin of tomatoes, tuna, whatever... Those items jumping up 40p means a serious cut back that week, for those days. Why are you all so against this point being made by her? Stats don't tell the story, she's telling the story. I find it weird, Ivory Towers abound it seems.
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Mark Cooper
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Statistics tell a better story than someone with a political axe to grind.
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S Baker
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I don't think Jack Monroe was wrong, supermarkets are changing many of the things they do. I noticed many cheaper lines disappearing some time ago. Yellow label items now have smaller reductions, and second reductions at the latter part of the day often do not happen. I have found few bargains in Marks and Spencer or Waitrose, and some absolutely ridiculous pricing of 'fancy items'. The devious practise of upping the price then bringing it a little lower a week later and presenting it as a discounted price is irritating. How can pricing a product at £2.99, but three of them for £7 help anyone with limited cash - if the product is still profitable at this price what can the margins on the single product be!
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Alistair Roy
1 DAY AGO
Surely the easiest answer to the price increase in chips is to buy the potatoes (where the price has fallen) and make your own? Isn't that supposed to be Ms Monroes' area of expertise?
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nicholas pickard
1 DAY AGO
Cooking Oil has risen in price as has the energy needed to cook the item. Are you unaware of the component costs of production?. Or were you being deliberately deceitful?
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Phil Stannard
1 DAY AGO
The Energy needed to cook them is the same either way. 25 mins at 200 in an electric oven. And you don’t need much cooking oil, just a dribble if oven cooking. You don’t appear aware of how cheap it is to make chips.
And deceitful is a very strong word.
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Neil K W Jones
1 DAY AGO
Do facts really matter?
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R Barnett
1 DAY AGO
Hi Boris!
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Neal Brown
1 DAY AGO
Jack Monroe is but a nothing compared to our own Conservative numbers man, the masterly and noble Eric Pickles, who got the number of the 72 Grenfell dead wrong while giving evidence at the enquiry into their deaths, and then immodestly complained he was too important to be kept from his lunch – doubtlessly the budget 56 pounds of potatoes mentioned by an earlier commentator. Thus will we Conservatives be hated so much that we lose the next election and Jack Monroe take her seat in the House of Lords
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David Sanftenberg
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It's expensive as hell to be working poor. Bad habits develop out of a need to escape the desperation and monotony. Poverty sucks.
I came from a place like that, and was fortunate to do well enough in my tech career that I'm now middle class.
I'll never forget clipping vouchers from the Sunday paper for 20¢ off tinned food, or the shame of having my debit card declined and having to leave the checkout past the other customers to put food back on the shelf.
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Chris Bellamy
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See what you did there BG... Smart
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Oxford Don
1 DAY AGO
But in those days the government didn't chuck money at you if you were unemployed, I'm guessing. Or did they?
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Michael Houston
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The entity known as "Jack Monroe" has been promoted as a change agent.
Nothing organic about her rise to prominence.
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Bee Gee
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Bore off. Keep your litigious culture on your side of the Atlantic.
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J Clark
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Chomsky was far too kind to himself.
He's bad news. EDITED
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Paul Yarrow
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Brilliant logic from Ms. Monroe. When shown to be wrong she pivots seamlessly to say it is more expensive to be poor which is obviously true. If you are poor a bigger proportion of your income goes on food than if you are rich.
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Martin E Ridley
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Why listern to yapping luvvies they are not bright, full of themselves and have no qualifications to comment
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Richard Wright
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The food price inflation will hit in about 6 months when new season crops are harvested ,so far everyone has been living on what has been in the warehouses and if prices don't go up 30% + a lot of farmers will be going bankrupt.
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Robert Standfield
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And you base these assumptions on what evidence?
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David Gale
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Profiteering needs to be closely examined, as some businesses are definitely taking advantage of headline inflation rates.
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Sean Flaherty
1 DAY AGO
Not least the Daily Telegraph!
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Iain Morse
1 DAY AGO
I notice a lot of very expensive crisps now on the market but these are 'heritage' or hipster or 'artisan' -ie they cost more than Smiths crisps because they are supposed to be so much better quality etc same with bread
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Ryan Brighton
1 DAY AGO
Tyrells and the like?
They're nice, but balsamic vinegar and sea salt don't taste MUCH different form a packet of Walkers salt and vinegar, and certainly aren't any better for you!
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Madeleine Richardson
1 DAY AGO
Food shopping, not shop which is the place where you buy your groceries.
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frank davidson
1 DAY AGO
Many supermarkets are holding the price of basic items. Potatoes are cheapest bought in a 56lb. bag
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Robert Standfield
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We are a family of 2. A big bag of spuds lasted us through the winter.
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Tad Stone
1 DAY AGO
I always buy a 56lb bag. Costs about £8.
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Martin Silson
1 DAY AGO
Clearly Sainsbury local has increased it's milk price at a far higher percentage increase than shown above. £1.10 to £1.45 in the past year. That chart above seems to imply it should have gone up 1 or 2%.
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Robert Standfield
1 DAY AGO
They probably used it as a loss leader?
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Chris Bellamy
1 DAY AGO
Like all the basics. That may be the point.
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Oliver Adams
1 DAY AGO
Whilst it's a good topic to be raising at this time, it seems truth takes a back seat when it's part of an activist narrative.
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Marvin the Martian
1 DAY AGO
Horses for courses...
Of course the Tory'graph is going to rubbish Jack Monroe, they have to because if she's right then it just adds to the view that the government has betrayed the very people who's votes it needs. The Tory'graph is only concerned with the pound going down the tubes - not that the poor are really getting poorer thanks to the Tories
Whereas on the ToL site, their story on this crucial issue bigs up Jack Monroe's view and gives it a lot of credence. The poor are really being forced to be poorer thanks to the Tories.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-value-food-prices-up-as-much-as-50-lc3lmrh88
...sorry chaps - paywall and all that - but if you've got the access then it's a good comparison. EDITED
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J Clark
1 DAY AGO
Weird remark.
Liebour and the Authoritarian Antidemocrats are all-in on various UK impoverishing notions, e.g. Net Zero BS.
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Steven Welford
1 DAY AGO
I could not possibly comment, simply because of her apparent passion in using liable lawyers.
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Robert Standfield
1 DAY AGO
Or even libel ones
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Zoltar the Magnificent
1 DAY AGO
She lost me at "going forward", not that she ever had me anyway.
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Maxwell StIves
1 DAY AGO
Inflation for people on very low / benefit level income will be much higher than the average at the moment but that will be because of energy prices, very little to do with food.
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Karen Hately
1 DAY AGO
More likely to have an expensive pre paid meter card, rather than monthly DD,
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Michael Quitman
1 DAY AGO
Pizza & Chip.. great
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D Hargrave
1 DAY AGO
Who??
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christopher calver
1 DAY AGO
where are Lidl special week end offers? This last weekend Red and Blue packed Colombian premium ground coffee half price to £1.39. Stocked up EDITED
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Ruth Cherry
1 DAY AGO
Ah of course! Premium ground coffee being top of every poor family’s shopping list
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Rum Doodle
1 DAY AGO
Wouldn’t it be great if some of the amazing British cheeses we produce were a little cheaper.
Anyhow, it won't put me off treating myself to a few ounces of Wensleydale blue for the coming weekend.
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Alternative Thinker
1 DAY AGO
Yes the ONS is right if your grocery shop includes garbage food like budget potatoes, cheese, pizza and chips.
The inflation is with the food that the poor should be eating like skimmed milk, wholewheat bread, fruits and vegetables and chicken.
To be poor and eat proper food is harder than those on larger incomes as the inflation will hit you harder.
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D Hargrave
1 DAY AGO
Why nutritionally deficient skimmed milk? (when whole milk hasn't gone up yet)
as for fruit and veg, Onions Bananas Apples all low inflation foods
So please explain your twisted post.
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Brynley DAVIES
1 DAY AGO
The article could easily have been titled what Jack Monroe got right or even Jack was right and wrong. The graph is very informative.
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Babs Berwick
1 DAY AGO
Shop around so you get to compare prices - got some real bargains these past couple of weeks from M&S and Waitrose - both competitive with their prices, compared to others.
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Iain Morse
1 DAY AGO
Pork mince has fallen though beef may have gone up
Ever regret opening a spoilerJust saw that I had a tab open with the comments before the telegraph deleted them, as Jack wanted them for her case logging them here for her legal team. I it helps the case progress
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David Robinson
1 DAY AGO
The poor are fine. Their staple foods such as chips, pizza and other unhealthy options have all dropped in price.
Sadly the only people affected are those creating proper home cooked meals.
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James Beveridge
1 DAY AGO
Jack should get labour to order Sunak to introduce a windfall tax on supermarkets that are profiting from these price rises to fund handouts to the poor until Sunak deems that the prices are reasonable.
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Neal Brown
1 DAY AGO
Ignore Jack Monroe. And ignore the advice to suffer cold, tinned, oily sardine meals given by numerous spartan commentators here. Take a tip on managing your food spending from the former deputy leader of Westminster City Council, Robert Davis. Davis enjoyed 514 'gifts and hospitality' in three years, in his official council role. His declarations reveal that on one day he managed two fine gifted lunches. Davis resigned after an investigation into his conduct. He is a model example to the feckless, lazy poor everywhere on how to take fiscal responsibility and live within income
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Paul Ferguson
1 DAY AGO
That renowned economic analyst, Jack Monroe
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Times Refugee
1 DAY AGO
4 out of the top 6 products are wheat based, a staple which has doubled in price this year.
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Hu McG
1 DAY AGO
Couldn't help but notice that the BBC have run this person's opinion as fact today, and offered no challenge to her cherry-picked stats.
Just another 'Tories bad' piece by the BBC, who can run it because they are just reporting what someone else said .......
Biased Broadcasting Corporation
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Tommy Gavin
1 DAY AGO
BBC are a disgrace.
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Patrick Freel
1 DAY AGO
Why is everyone so bloody enormous? They aren't starving that's for sure.
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Piggy Malone
1 DAY AGO
Why is this woman’s opinion given any prominence?
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Diana Partridge
1 DAY AGO
Probably, because it is assumed that anyone who votes Conservative has never been poor.
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Athena Promachos
1 DAY AGO
Because she's a middle class person's idea of what a poor person looks like. She was hard up for a few months ten years ago and has been doing performative poverty every since. It's netted her a nice little earner. She has hundred of patreon followiers paying her a monthly subscription.
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Mike Hamilton
1 DAY AGO
A better way to illustrate the poor would be to compare the definition of the poor in the '40s and '50s with todays so called poor
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Piggy Malone
1 DAY AGO
Or compare the poor in India with the poor in Islington.
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DD YY
1 DAY AGO
I don’t think anyone takes Monroe seriously, there’s a whole load of commentary on a site called tattle life about her claims and behaviour online.
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Richard Tickner
1 DAY AGO
Since when did crisps count as food? Hardly essential.
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Mabel Burlington
1 DAY AGO
Onions and bread?! I can't think what goodness is in an onion but you're obvs still here to tell the tale. I have personally lived on the baked beans and egg diet for many months and it really does sustain life very well. We probably did have bread now and again and i'm sure we always kept a pack of wheet biscs in for our baby. She had sardine and potato i seem to recall. BUt we were beans and egg only pretty much. Never did any long term harm at all. We were thin, but not ill.
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Anthony Daly
1 DAY AGO
Crisps are party food according to MSM. Along with pre-packed sandwiches and orange juice. A luxury.
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Andrew Rossiter
1 DAY AGO
The Left and Facts. Like oil and water.
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Gay Tory
1 DAY AGO
Let’s not forget she was a Labour Party member, so is clearly willing to hurt a Tory government.
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David Wood
1 DAY AGO
A poor person will depend more on pasta than other people. I remember as a graduate student, I basically lived on pasta with shop brand ketchup. Bread goes stale, potatoes go off, but with pasta you have no waste and you can buy it in bulk as soon as you get your monthly paycheck. So a 50 percent increase in value oasta will have a massive impact. Also, a rich person will spend as little as 10percent of their income or even less on food, even if that includes oysters and champagne, while a poor person will pretty much spend everything that's left after rent and electricity on food, so 6 percent inflation have a much bigger impact overall for someone who is on a tight budget.
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Diana Partridge
1 DAY AGO
I did consider it before I wrote, but It seems that most households have a freezer of sorts (not all) and there are ways to save money, if food is correctly stored. I have been poor, and remember cooking on a gas ring, in my bedsit in Cambridge many years ago. Life has moved on for me, but I am still open to advice on how to save money.
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Ann Higman
1 DAY AGO
Ah bedsit days, living in Exeter in the 70s, a shilling in the meter and eating boiled cabbage! Surprisingly l still love cabbage but fried in butter these days!
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M Lucking
1 DAY AGO
Does anybody listen to this person?
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Derek Kendle
1 DAY AGO
The BBC apparently.
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Diana Partridge
1 DAY AGO
No. I think she was very poor once, and made meals for £1. She wrote a book about it. She has always been critical of the Government. No surprises there, I guess.
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Auntie Macassar
1 DAY AGO
Isn't this woman from a very middle class family, and then decided to do the poor, victimised stance?
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Giacomo Freeze Frog
1 DAY AGO
Yes
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Iain Harris
1 DAY AGO
Never let the facts get in the way of a good scare story….
We should be used to this idea now, post Covid.
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Times Refugee
1 DAY AGO
Covid gave us the media expert...
A different expert every other day, each with a different theory, each supposedly correct (according to the media), but all with one thing in common... They were wrong.
The media could wash their hands of them by using that many it's, but's, possibly's, might be's, maybe's etc that the 'story' they wrote should have started
Once Upon a Time.
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David Payne
1 DAY AGO
And that sums up journalism - they write "stories"!
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Chris Cox
1 DAY AGO
Quite why anyone would pay attention to this person baffles me. She's a woman when it suits her, but if she needs a bit of press coverage, tells the world she's 'gender fluid'. Deranged is probably the best word for it.
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Tad Stone
1 DAY AGO
"Gender fluid." Does that mean she wets herself unexpectedly.
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Hugh Cole
1 DAY AGO
There should be a statutory obligation to interview all people who go to a food bank. Not to find out if they are genuinely in desperate need but much more importantly to find out how did it come to this
What choices did they make, what decisions did they take which led them to be in this desperate predicament in one of the world's strongest economies and one of the most ordered countries in the world.
There should be dozens of clever people doing research as I outline above to ascertain common factors with recommendations for policy the primary one being........'God helps those who are able to help themselves but choose not to'.
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Diana Partridge
1 DAY AGO
You can get a ‘crisis loan’ very quickly, but your benefits are reduced for a few months until it is paid. I think it is quite likely that the £650 grant for the cost of living, will be spent on other things, by some recipients, and not necessarily on essentials.
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J Clark
1 DAY AGO
Thoughtful comment, thank you.
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Interference Fit
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Half a tub of veetee microwave rice 35p.
1 Tin Aldi sardines 35p.
Chop in some spring onion, peppers and tomato, drizzle with olive oil.
Delicious and nutritious for £1.
Many Japanese live to over 90 on fish and rice.
Nearly half of Uk adults are now obese and we throw out a third of all food we buy. This “crisis” is one of health and fecklessness.
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Interference Fit
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Yes uncooked rice is much cheaper. My little recipe can be made in around 3 minutes, which is an attempt to thwart the “it’s too much effort” types.
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Interference Fit
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You can buy a bunch of 10 spring onions for 65p. 2x onions for the meal is 13p.
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john Charles
1 DAY AGO
You do not need education, you do not need to work, family plan, worry about money or take responsibility for your own life.
All you need is a sperm donor and a taxpayer and you are set for life along with thousands of champagne socialists like JM to tell you "you deserve it"
She is everything that is wrong with the UK today
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Heather Jeeves
1 DAY AGO
Sorry don’t agree with your analogy. She is trying to help families and is very popular.
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Jason Brown
1 DAY AGO
I think her cause is a good one. Helping families with cheap meal options is a skill severely lacking from my generation downwards (millennials).
However, recently on twitter she was crying about being attacked by people who are right leaning (read: they had a public but a generally polite disagreement).
It’s always the same old play with a lot of these luvvies: good cause, try to put themselves above being criticised and then play the victim card when they get political and are disagreed with.
Don’t play the game if you can’t hack disagreements.
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P Jackson
1 DAY AGO
They are thin-skinned virtue-signallers. Probably over-compensating for some perceived lack in their lives.
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Tad Stone
1 DAY AGO
Teach them to cook. I'm 70 and have been cooking for over 60 years. And I'm a man.
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Mark Jenkins
1 DAY AGO
So she lied?
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Hu McG
1 DAY AGO
She very carefully picks certain stats to support her narrative, and just as carefully ignored the ones that didn't. Of course, the BBC helpfully, didn't fact check it.
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Sandip Basu
1 DAY AGO
Did you read the article? Do you know what statistics are? Statistics can be interpreted in different ways. If anything, JM got many things right and other things wrong.
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Cia Hug
1 DAY AGO
“Poverty campaigner Jack Monroe”
Pull the other one - “Millionaire poverty tourist Jack Monroe” is a more accurate description.
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Anthony Thomas
1 DAY AGO
Never argue with someone who has made up their mind and written about it in the Observer or the Guardian. Totally closed minds.
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P Self
1 DAY AGO
If your food bill goes up on a low salary at the same rate as someone on a high salary, then is a higher proportion of your income. You middle class DT readers need to stop running with your anti woke agenda. She doing a lot more to support people that you lot just being horrible about her and everyone who doesn’t agree with you - JM, the BBC blah blah blah. EDITED
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J C Clarke
1 DAY AGO
Lost me when you spouted “truth to power” . Now you want to provide eating out for the idle how won’t/don’t cook, whatever next?
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John Newton
1 DAY AGO
Peace on Earth
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rosemary elwell
1 DAY AGO
Pick a statistic, any statistic then twist it to suit your personal opinion and preferences and political allegiances. People do it constantly, this is just a bit more of the same.
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King Slim
1 DAY AGO
I know what you mean, but this isn't an instance of spin, its an instance of being untruthful.
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Mark Cooper
1 DAY AGO
Food is still remarkably cheap in the UK (and I don't think that is a bad thing). You can get 500g of spaghetti in Aldi for 23p.
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David Williams
1 DAY AGO
It doesn't do the Italians any harm!
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ian craig
1 DAY AGO
Eggs are exactly the same price in real terms here as in a Nepalese village.
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george mills
1 DAY AGO
Her father was in the fire service and got her a good job in the office earning a decent salary that she gave up. Anyone outside the guardian bubble needs a reality check EDITED
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Chris Bellamy
1 DAY AGO
Fire service. No bubble here, just a balanced view as a result of being informed, open minded too.
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Mike Allrn
1 DAY AGO
Why does the DT (and some of its readers) seem to consider Jack Monroe an opponent to be attacked? Surely people on low incomes not being able to afford food is something we all care about?
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Mike Allrn
1 DAY AGO
The ONS data shows own brands getting more expensive faster for several months, it has since evened out. But when she raised it the data shows she was right.
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J C Clarke
1 DAY AGO
Might do if they weren’t nearly all fat, tattooed and in and out of the bingo halls and betting shops, nail parlours . They can afford food but need to make lifestyle choices like the rest of the population.
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Heather Jeeves
1 DAY AGO
Horrible vindictive article. She is trying to support poor families.
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D Hargrave
1 DAY AGO
No she has been called out. Her statements were/ are false.
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Ted Fowler
1 DAY AGO
Why do you dislike poor people?
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Dan Burne
1 DAY AGO
If food outlay is a higher percentage of your outgoings (as it typically is for those less well off), you will feel a disproportionately high impact of increasing food prices (even if increases of budget food prices are in line with overall food prices).
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Ben Harper
1 DAY AGO
Why are you attacking someone who is fighting for those with less voice? Jack literally worked with them for these figures and they prove her point. The cost of potatoes is meaningless when people can't afford the energy to cook them but its presented as a gotcha!
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Derek White
1 DAY AGO
Why should anyone take any notice of him / her, I certainly don't?
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Heather Jeeves
1 DAY AGO
Lots do though.
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Kathryn Cole
1 DAY AGO
why are crisps and pasta and fruit squash on this list but no vegetables (except for potatoes) and no fresh fruit? amazed to hear Sophie Raworth refer to crisps the other day as an 'essential'. How weird is some people's relationship with food for nutrition.
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Chris Bellamy
1 DAY AGO
Jack Monroe's goal is to help the very poorest in society eat better food and in some cases actually be able to budget for nutritious daily meals when they otherwise wouldn't have them. There is a huge cost of living crises for some people in this country, but here we find so much ignorance of what's going on, it's like she's the enemy to some of you. Learn more about your enemy and in doing so educate yourself about the world outside of your fluffy existence.
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Bee Gee
1 DAY AGO
They. You just misgendered them.
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Office Trolley
1 DAY AGO
Chris, she chose to give up her/his fireservice job and chose to have a child while living off working people's taxes.
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Iain Duncan
1 DAY AGO
Strange, the graph shows that rice has gone up by around 25% yet Aldi are still selling Everyday Essentials Long Grain Rice 1kg for £0.45. Lies, damned lies and ONS statistics!
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KATH AVERY
1 DAY AGO
She must be important! The BBC devoted a whole edition of their FOOD PROGRAMME to her to remind us all that we are the lucky ones to be able to afford to eat nice food! I was suitably admonished after half an hour.
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Stephen Pel
1 DAY AGO
And no BBC fact check
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Philip Bishop
1 DAY AGO
Judging by the graph published here, it looks like Jack Monroe was bang on the money with her comments when she made them and successfully had the impact she sought. Good on her.
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Philip Bishop
1 DAY AGO
She made her comments just before the black line went above the blue line.
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Ruth Cherry
1 DAY AGO
I think we all learned in the past two years that graphs say whatever SAGE want them to say
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William Rusbridge
1 DAY AGO
People now spend less of their take home pay on food than ever.
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Robert Standfield
1 DAY AGO
I was a bit sceptical about your assertion but youre absolutely right. https://assets.publishing.service.g...ent_data/file/597666/FF75Timeline-09mar17.pdf
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J Clark
1 DAY AGO
Pity about the housing bit eh?
Food costs, and indeed the cost of any essentials, should never, ever be viewed in isolation.
That is sub BB€-Guardian-Rejoin level 'thinking'. EDITED
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Mabel Burlington
1 DAY AGO
I deliberately looked at the cost of budget staples when i was in Aldi just last Tuesday. Prices are down as they have expanded their "essentials" range. So large can baked beans 22p. Large brown loaf 32p. I bought it and it makes decent enough toast. Not tried it as bread yet, but looks all right. 6 eggs 69p. Bag frozen chips 49p. You can get quite a few meals out of those kinds of staples. Their tinned sardines were always 36p and tinned mackeral 40 something pence but they might have gone up as forgot to check those. I still have a lot of tinned fish bought a couple of years ago - tuna, mackeral. Always comes in handy. EDITED
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Elizabeth Wyatt
1 DAY AGO
I think the supermarkets are making an effort to keep down the price of basics items (Iceland say they make no profit on them at the moment), and this is maybe due to Jack Monroe's campaigning.
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Mike Gutteridge
1 DAY AGO
I have just been in a Primark in one of the poorest towns in the UK. It was astonishing to see so many people queuing to pay with armfuls of clothing.
It would appear that this is normal for a lunchtime.
Are these people giving any thought to ensuring they have money put aside for emergencies or will they be looking to the Government for help!
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David Sanftenberg
1 DAY AGO
Are you aware of what Primark is? It's a discount clothing shop. These people are not buying designer labels.
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Mike Gutteridge
1 DAY AGO
It is completely immaterial what price the clothing costs. The point of my comment is you do not priorities fashion over having a financial buffer to see you through a rainy day. I don’t normally react to criticism but I have say your comment was absolutely stupid. You must be a fan of Rebecca Vardy!
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Vernon Stradling
1 DAY AGO
Don't encourage her.
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john Charles
1 DAY AGO
Yet another wealthy successful campaigner for the "downtrodden and poor", God help her if these people lifted themselves and succeeded, her gravy train would be over EDITED
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John Paterson
1 DAY AGO
Smartphones, Sky subs, coloured hair, tattoos etc; all come before food, innit?
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Interference Fit
1 DAY AGO
And junk food delivered by gig economy because they’re too lazy to even go pick up their already prepared food.
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steven oliver
1 DAY AGO
What the middle class don't understand is that working class people do not need to educated on the price of a loaf of bread is because they already know likewise they do not want to be lectured in how to shop and what to eat by some middle class poverty crusader.
Working class folk aremore clued up about the economy than most as it's a every day occurrence to them and not a fad.
Phew glad I got that off me chest what liberal do gooder wants it next.
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Jamie Smith
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Cancel sky. check phone contract. stop smoking. stop drinking. stop having kids you can't afford. try and get a job. try and train to get a better job.
thats all the suggestions i have for now.
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J Clark
1 DAY AGO
Patronising generalisations don't add much value. Those who are truly scraping by have already done most of those things.
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Bee Gee
1 DAY AGO
A Twitter they/them luvvie does not a financial expert make.
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Sandip Basu
1 DAY AGO
She is not a luvvie. She is a campaigner, having herself been a victim of absolute poverty. She does not purport to be a financial expert - she explains it as she has seen it, and offers advice on how to improve life for the poorest amongst us. If you think she's a luvvie I think you've confused her with someone else.
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Office Trolley
1 DAY AGO
If Jack is poor it is because of her lifestyle choices.
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Steve Willis
1 DAY AGO
No surprise. She’s part of the fifth column. Probably a Common Purpose trained Trot EDITED
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Jane Clemetson
1 DAY AGO
Eh?
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John McQuillan
1 DAY AGO
Looks like between September and January she was right.....according to the chart. EDITED
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Mark Lilley
1 DAY AGO
I was in my local Morrisons earlier and got a delicious freshly cooked chicken for less than £4, which could easily have fed a family of four. Unfortunately my plans for several meals were scuppered by our Labrador Cora who can now reach the bar in the kitchen!
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Ian Crompton
1 DAY AGO
Jack who ? In spite of recent rises, basic food to prepare yourself is still cheap. You have to make an effort. EDITED
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David Sanftenberg
1 DAY AGO
Poor people make the biggest efforts already, out of necessity. It's the well to do middle classes who are the laziest in my experience.
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Robert Hope
1 DAY AGO
Did the ONS track the price of my favourite delicacy - a chip buttie on white bread with brown sauce? Delicious!
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John Newton
1 DAY AGO
Has to be with red sauce.
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David Conley
1 DAY AGO
so we should eat sausage & chips instead of pasta & mince, save money die younger, nice choice.
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Luigi Love
1 DAY AGO
Poorer families spend all in come and have no propensity to save. They will always be hit harder by price rises.
Wealthier households don’t spend 100% of their income on subsistence - thus have a propensity to save.
Additionally supermarkets in poorer areas aren’t always cheaper - they can’t always travel further.
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Piggy Malone
1 DAY AGO
And yet there will be a flourishing tattoo parlour and multiple betting shops on every high street, where people on low pay spend their disposable income. EDITED
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John Newton
1 DAY AGO
Don't forget nail shops. Outward show is important to them.
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J Clark
1 DAY AGO
Hard to take a woman who insists on using a man's name seriously. EDITED
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Jonathan Muller
1 DAY AGO
Jack Monroe chose to become a single parent and had been complaining about the miserliness of the benefits the state provides ever since.
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Jane Knight
1 DAY AGO
Shame the price of tesco cheap cheese has actually gone up! Ms Munroe was actually commenting about the availability of the cheaper ranges. The ONS admitted at lunch time that if one had to trade up a brand if pasta the increase was 20%. As usual one can prove anything with statistics
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Tad Stone
1 DAY AGO
Who is Jack Monroe?
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sylvie baxter
1 DAY AGO
A single parent who achieved fame through somehow publicising her cheap meals. Cook book followed.
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Gary Mack
1 DAY AGO
Too many single parents!! Did “they” give birth?
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Chris Bellamy
1 DAY AGO
I rented a room to a friend who was living on a pittance while he saved. His diet was made up of the items that are listed in the chart above as being above the rate of inflation, pasta considerably, rice too. Basic calories that are as cheap as you get. Also many are missing the point. Another pound on your Lamb joint, say £13 to £14 or Organic Eggs going from £1.80 to £2.10, those increases either don't hit the sides or you can opt for a cheaper product. When you're already at the lowest product price you have nowhere to go other than cutting back on quantity which will mean skipping meals. It's not rocket science and why people here are unable to understand and further more try and rubbish someone helping is beyond me.
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Chris Bellamy
1 DAY AGO
Pizza and cheese would be considered a luxury. Some people really are that impoverished. That first graph is too vague to give you a sense of how it affects the very poorest. It says that the rate of inflation in comparison was more, then less, then more, and on and on. When you have say £2.60 in your pocket to buy food, say pasta, a tin of tomatoes, tuna, whatever... Those items jumping up 40p means a serious cut back that week, for those days. Why are you all so against this point being made by her? Stats don't tell the story, she's telling the story. I find it weird, Ivory Towers abound it seems.
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Mark Cooper
1 DAY AGO
Statistics tell a better story than someone with a political axe to grind.
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S Baker
1 DAY AGO
I don't think Jack Monroe was wrong, supermarkets are changing many of the things they do. I noticed many cheaper lines disappearing some time ago. Yellow label items now have smaller reductions, and second reductions at the latter part of the day often do not happen. I have found few bargains in Marks and Spencer or Waitrose, and some absolutely ridiculous pricing of 'fancy items'. The devious practise of upping the price then bringing it a little lower a week later and presenting it as a discounted price is irritating. How can pricing a product at £2.99, but three of them for £7 help anyone with limited cash - if the product is still profitable at this price what can the margins on the single product be!
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Alistair Roy
1 DAY AGO
Surely the easiest answer to the price increase in chips is to buy the potatoes (where the price has fallen) and make your own? Isn't that supposed to be Ms Monroes' area of expertise?
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nicholas pickard
1 DAY AGO
Cooking Oil has risen in price as has the energy needed to cook the item. Are you unaware of the component costs of production?. Or were you being deliberately deceitful?
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Phil Stannard
1 DAY AGO
The Energy needed to cook them is the same either way. 25 mins at 200 in an electric oven. And you don’t need much cooking oil, just a dribble if oven cooking. You don’t appear aware of how cheap it is to make chips.
And deceitful is a very strong word.
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Neil K W Jones
1 DAY AGO
Do facts really matter?
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R Barnett
1 DAY AGO
Hi Boris!
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Neal Brown
1 DAY AGO
Jack Monroe is but a nothing compared to our own Conservative numbers man, the masterly and noble Eric Pickles, who got the number of the 72 Grenfell dead wrong while giving evidence at the enquiry into their deaths, and then immodestly complained he was too important to be kept from his lunch – doubtlessly the budget 56 pounds of potatoes mentioned by an earlier commentator. Thus will we Conservatives be hated so much that we lose the next election and Jack Monroe take her seat in the House of Lords
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David Sanftenberg
1 DAY AGO
It's expensive as hell to be working poor. Bad habits develop out of a need to escape the desperation and monotony. Poverty sucks.
I came from a place like that, and was fortunate to do well enough in my tech career that I'm now middle class.
I'll never forget clipping vouchers from the Sunday paper for 20¢ off tinned food, or the shame of having my debit card declined and having to leave the checkout past the other customers to put food back on the shelf.
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Chris Bellamy
1 DAY AGO
See what you did there BG... Smart
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Oxford Don
1 DAY AGO
But in those days the government didn't chuck money at you if you were unemployed, I'm guessing. Or did they?
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Michael Houston
1 DAY AGO
The entity known as "Jack Monroe" has been promoted as a change agent.
Nothing organic about her rise to prominence.
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Bee Gee
1 DAY AGO
Bore off. Keep your litigious culture on your side of the Atlantic.
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J Clark
1 DAY AGO
Chomsky was far too kind to himself.
He's bad news. EDITED
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Paul Yarrow
1 DAY AGO
Brilliant logic from Ms. Monroe. When shown to be wrong she pivots seamlessly to say it is more expensive to be poor which is obviously true. If you are poor a bigger proportion of your income goes on food than if you are rich.
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Martin E Ridley
1 DAY AGO
Why listern to yapping luvvies they are not bright, full of themselves and have no qualifications to comment
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Richard Wright
1 DAY AGO
The food price inflation will hit in about 6 months when new season crops are harvested ,so far everyone has been living on what has been in the warehouses and if prices don't go up 30% + a lot of farmers will be going bankrupt.
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Robert Standfield
1 DAY AGO
And you base these assumptions on what evidence?
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David Gale
1 DAY AGO
Profiteering needs to be closely examined, as some businesses are definitely taking advantage of headline inflation rates.
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Sean Flaherty
1 DAY AGO
Not least the Daily Telegraph!
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Iain Morse
1 DAY AGO
I notice a lot of very expensive crisps now on the market but these are 'heritage' or hipster or 'artisan' -ie they cost more than Smiths crisps because they are supposed to be so much better quality etc same with bread
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Ryan Brighton
1 DAY AGO
Tyrells and the like?
They're nice, but balsamic vinegar and sea salt don't taste MUCH different form a packet of Walkers salt and vinegar, and certainly aren't any better for you!
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Madeleine Richardson
1 DAY AGO
Food shopping, not shop which is the place where you buy your groceries.
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frank davidson
1 DAY AGO
Many supermarkets are holding the price of basic items. Potatoes are cheapest bought in a 56lb. bag
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Robert Standfield
1 DAY AGO
We are a family of 2. A big bag of spuds lasted us through the winter.
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Tad Stone
1 DAY AGO
I always buy a 56lb bag. Costs about £8.
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Martin Silson
1 DAY AGO
Clearly Sainsbury local has increased it's milk price at a far higher percentage increase than shown above. £1.10 to £1.45 in the past year. That chart above seems to imply it should have gone up 1 or 2%.
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Robert Standfield
1 DAY AGO
They probably used it as a loss leader?
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Chris Bellamy
1 DAY AGO
Like all the basics. That may be the point.
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Oliver Adams
1 DAY AGO
Whilst it's a good topic to be raising at this time, it seems truth takes a back seat when it's part of an activist narrative.
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Marvin the Martian
1 DAY AGO
Horses for courses...
Of course the Tory'graph is going to rubbish Jack Monroe, they have to because if she's right then it just adds to the view that the government has betrayed the very people who's votes it needs. The Tory'graph is only concerned with the pound going down the tubes - not that the poor are really getting poorer thanks to the Tories
Whereas on the ToL site, their story on this crucial issue bigs up Jack Monroe's view and gives it a lot of credence. The poor are really being forced to be poorer thanks to the Tories.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-value-food-prices-up-as-much-as-50-lc3lmrh88
...sorry chaps - paywall and all that - but if you've got the access then it's a good comparison. EDITED
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J Clark
1 DAY AGO
Weird remark.
Liebour and the Authoritarian Antidemocrats are all-in on various UK impoverishing notions, e.g. Net Zero BS.
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Steven Welford
1 DAY AGO
I could not possibly comment, simply because of her apparent passion in using liable lawyers.
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Robert Standfield
1 DAY AGO
Or even libel ones
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Zoltar the Magnificent
1 DAY AGO
She lost me at "going forward", not that she ever had me anyway.
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Maxwell StIves
1 DAY AGO
Inflation for people on very low / benefit level income will be much higher than the average at the moment but that will be because of energy prices, very little to do with food.
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Karen Hately
1 DAY AGO
More likely to have an expensive pre paid meter card, rather than monthly DD,
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Michael Quitman
1 DAY AGO
Pizza & Chip.. great
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D Hargrave
1 DAY AGO
Who??
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christopher calver
1 DAY AGO
where are Lidl special week end offers? This last weekend Red and Blue packed Colombian premium ground coffee half price to £1.39. Stocked up EDITED
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Ruth Cherry
1 DAY AGO
Ah of course! Premium ground coffee being top of every poor family’s shopping list
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Rum Doodle
1 DAY AGO
Wouldn’t it be great if some of the amazing British cheeses we produce were a little cheaper.
Anyhow, it won't put me off treating myself to a few ounces of Wensleydale blue for the coming weekend.
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Alternative Thinker
1 DAY AGO
Yes the ONS is right if your grocery shop includes garbage food like budget potatoes, cheese, pizza and chips.
The inflation is with the food that the poor should be eating like skimmed milk, wholewheat bread, fruits and vegetables and chicken.
To be poor and eat proper food is harder than those on larger incomes as the inflation will hit you harder.
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D Hargrave
1 DAY AGO
Why nutritionally deficient skimmed milk? (when whole milk hasn't gone up yet)
as for fruit and veg, Onions Bananas Apples all low inflation foods
So please explain your twisted post.
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Brynley DAVIES
1 DAY AGO
The article could easily have been titled what Jack Monroe got right or even Jack was right and wrong. The graph is very informative.
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Babs Berwick
1 DAY AGO
Shop around so you get to compare prices - got some real bargains these past couple of weeks from M&S and Waitrose - both competitive with their prices, compared to others.
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Iain Morse
1 DAY AGO
Pork mince has fallen though beef may have gone up
I've never heard such rumours either. And I can't imagine people would hold back what with the other accusations levelled at him.This. Has she actually liballed Jeremy Kyle in the last few days? He’s an odious little twerp but can’t see him tasking kindly to Jack describing him as “handsy “ . Although he may be but nothing out there suggests he’s a groper…serial shagger maybe but not a groper.
OMG what a state
I hope she does do the libel case, only so that Lozza and friends can hire that Camilla woman to cross examine and hand her printed off screenshots of- THAT MAN, David Walliams Coke allegation, headmaster, Lee Anderson, Chris giles, Stacy Dooley, and then when Jack pulls the card of “I’m sorry I made a mistake” pulls out her loving support for Prince Harry yet complete irrational hatred for Paul Hollywood and rehashing of that pic from 15-20 years ago of the nazi Fancy dress.I've never heard such rumours either. And I can't imagine people would hold back what with the other accusations levelled at him.
I don't think he would be too happy about it either. Who would.
She is going to get herself into very hot water one day. Where all her lies will be uncovered.
It feels like Jack is trying to elevate that whole narrative of mainstream media have no integrity or whatever to boost her profile. I think she likes the idea of just becoming a talking shithead like, Lozza, OJ, Ash etc as she will see it pays to promote the view of independent “journalism”Does she not realise that Jeremy Kyle is a prominent part of newsinternationalUK these days? The times has been very supportive of her thus far. Yet another hugely powerful media organisation that might tire of pandering to her.
She said JHB (of news UK) had her mask slip not that long ago for taking umbridge with white-wingers, then deleted it. Someone else who had previously been full of praise for jack.
"You're better than that jack" - JHB
No, she really isn't.
She literally doesn't need to say anything. No one mentioned it on Twitter...she brought it up.If I wanted to shut down pregnancy rumours, I would simply say 'no I'm not pregnant!' rather than this 'people's bodies are none of your business, I am however going to protect my new childfrom press intrusion'. But she doesn't want to shut down the rumours, whether she's pregnant or not, does she?
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