Jack Monroe #217 Fishi Sunak

[Dustye]

I'm on a grunk and there are many, many things to unpack from that article that I'm sure have already been said much more succinctly and sensitively than I could, but...she wore her hat *over her eyes* at rehab? So she couldn't see? And despite swearing and shoving people, she was the designated 'mother hen'? Don't know why I'm fixating on those two bizarre, nonsensical details, I'll blame toddler-induced exhaustion.

 

[EllaEm87]

I'm on a grunk and there are many, many things to unpack from that article that I'm sure have already been said much more succinctly and sensitively than I could, but...she wore her hat *over her eyes* at rehab? So she couldn't see? And despite swearing and shoving people, she was the designated 'mother hen'? Don't know why I'm fixating on those two bizarre, nonsensical details, I'll blame toddler-induced exhaustion.

As with any of Jacks stories, a lot of it will be fantasy.

If she stayed 16 weeks rather than the 6 they initially suggests, does she not realise that screams that they were struggling to get through to her? Her Narc was probably holding things up a lot.

 

[BlendedSlop]

I'm still grunking, so everyone's probably already said this more succinctly and eloquently, but I just had to give my thoughts on the article while they're still fresh in my head.

Same tit, different shovel. Everything is someone else's fault, Jack is a completely blameless passive victim who stuff just happens to without playing any role in it herself.

Can posting on these threads fairly be called "trolling and abuse" when she has to actively search it out to see it? I'm sure it's not nice to read negative things about yourself, but a) we keep it on Tattle, never going to "her turf" and forcing her to read it, and b) if you're someone in the public eye - particularly someone who chooses to monetise their life and put out every thought into the public domain - there's going to be discussion about you. Soz, but it comes with the territory? I don't for one second condone anyone abusing her on her socials etc but 99% of her Twitter replies seem to be completely fawning comments telling her how fantastic she is?

And I'm sorry, if she was actually off her face while in sole charge of her son, whoever contacted "CPS" was quite right to do so (if it even happened). Referrals of that nature aren't made to try to have someone's kid taken off them, they're to make sure support services can be put in place and the welfare of the child is protected.

I found it odd that she didn't mention The Poverty when listing the many awkward "coming out" situations with her parents and the endless, unwavering support they've given her...

She seems to be squarely blaming Tattle for her falling off the wagon, but surely the breakdown of her relationship, the pandemic, the realisation she'd ducked up her biggest career opportunities, the residual trauma she constantly refers to decades of sexual abuse, etc, have all played a part? But no, it's all the evil cabal's fault, even going back to years before this forum existed.

Regardless, as a fellow human being I truly wish her well in her recovery, I'm happy she seems to be giving something back through her part-time, low-paid job, and hopefully her studies will help her become a better cook. I know that last bit sounds like shade, but I promise it wasn't meant that way. Well, maybe a bit.

 

[FrumpyCat]

Ruling out the possibility of bone cancer and breathed 'not a word' on social media. Certainly dropped some hints though.
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28th December 2020, testing of the waters with appearance of a headscarf
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March 2021, request for a 'friendly oncologist'
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The cancer fishing was bleeping awful, and peak Jack being a bleep, along with the ouchy mouth cookbook,.

Cancer is not a photo opportunity. bleep.

 

[TheDragonWithAFlagon]

Brief summary of that article;

1. She was off her bits on drink and drugs when responsible for her child. Which means that, if those stories were true, the child was alone with an unconscious parent and checking she wasn't dead.

2. It's not her fault. The internet made her do it. The binges allegedly started again just about when her fiancee left.

3. It's not her fault. Her mum said that it's been seven years. So Allegra made her do it.

4. Everybody at the rehab facility liked her more than anybody else, so much so, she stayed longer AND they liked her so much that they gave her a job. Because there's nothing better than somebody who isn't even a year clean and sober making a living out of advising other people how to be clean and sober.

5. Shoulder injuries are common when you have crap form for weights, dragging furniture around, overdo it with gym equipment or fall over when you're out of your tree. They take a while to heal and the scar tissue that can form is a b to break up. It's lumpy, so much so you can feel it on examination. It's common to do an x-ray to see whether there's tendonitis (visible on x rays), a fracture, partial dislocation, collarbone damage or bone spurs developing. An MRI is often requested afterwards to look at whether there's a tear in the cartilage.

6. She's decided to do a course that doesn't provide a professional qualification (Registered Dietician) and therefore isn't hugely useful in the long term for secure employment.

 

[Django]

I'm on a grunk and there are many, many things to unpack from that article that I'm sure have already been said much more succinctly and sensitively than I could, but...she wore her hat *over her eyes* at rehab? So she couldn't see? And despite swearing and shoving people, she was the designated 'mother hen'? Don't know why I'm fixating on those two bizarre, nonsensical details, I'll blame toddler-induced exhaustion.

I know just what you mean, I kept thinking about her baking 'skills' and feeling sorry for the other people at the clinic!

 

[Mel Donte]

I'm guessing Jack approached Diva with this advert for her employer? I wonder if they both paid her for it.

 

[heretoreaditall2019]

The cancer fishing was bleeping awful, and peak Jack being a bleep, along with the ouchy mouth cookbook,.

Cancer is not a photo opportunity. bleep.

Added this to the wiki because it’s so abhorrent, ty Click!

Lol @ her descriptions of how she behaved towards other vulnerable people in a therapy session. Idk why nothing can be private with her, I get it if you’re a Kardashian building an empire off your personal drams but duck me it’s only a .PDF a Fendi collab it yieldeth not!

 

[nicjd1]

Grunking so not sure where this will land. I've not posted for while and generally didn't post much as the rest of you ninnies always said it first and said it better! I came off the pages when she went quiet but knew if wouldn't last long, she needs the twitter high and is addicted to that as much as any substance.

But as someone currently working the 12 steps after a stint in rehab I have been triggered and angered by Jack's recent posts and that article. It's lovely knowing some of you are in recovery too and understand. I did my Step 4 making a 'fearless moral inventory' and even the people that had genuinely harmed me and I did nothing wrong, I still had to examine my reaction to things and see what I could do differently. I have just done step 8, putting myself in other peoples shoes that I have harmed to prepare for making amends. It's really freeing stuff if you do it properly.

There is literally nothing in Jack's very vocal recovery process that mirrors mine or anyone else in the fellowships that I know of. I don't get the impression she is attending many meetings - I currently am doing at least 1 a day, there are 100s on zoom and she doesn't seem to be using the programme either as it's still everyone else's fault.

Don't feel bad for her for here. She doesn't have to read it she just can't handle being called out which is why she never names Tattle as it has all the receipts. She has clearly had addiction issues for many years and even before these tattle threads she referred to bullies and being harassed online. Recovery is not about making excuses for why you drank/used, but quite the opposite so I find all this soooo frustrating.

And also the risqué boob shots that she didn't want her mum to see. Clear example of her exaggerating the truth as she can't help herself! There was a tiny bit of side boob, whilst dressed, wow.

 

[Rekyavikgirl]

Mother Hen behaviour in a rehab and detox setting should not be encouraged, or at least it wouldn't be in a reputable organisation. Baking for others, too, especially when there's issues of control, disordered eating, and addiction. Because with Jack it wouldn't be baking once or twice, it'd be bombardment. It's narcy and manipulative; she knows it's hard to confront someone when they're always doing things for you.

 

[HotesTilaire]

You feel both guilt and annoyance reading the essay because she’s a narc and she’s gaslighting us.

Spoiler: Discussion about therapy

I do find it a worry that they’ve given her a “job” and she is now effectively promoting their service. The therapists are also recovering and I just really wonder about the clinical supervision, boundaries and oversight because whilst I could accept an article like this after a year or two, a month or two concerns me.
Can’t they see what she’s doing? If they can’t or won’t, that’s really disappointing.

Do you think she calls it CPS so that “Jack Monwoe Social Services” doesn’t come up on google searches? Hiya Jack, I deliberately spelled the name wrong for you there. Good effort but more therapy I think. All the best.

 

[Hollaaa]

Mother Hen behaviour in a rehab and detox setting should not be encouraged, or at least it wouldn't be in a reputable organisation. Baking for others, too, especially when there's issues of control, disordered eating, and addiction. Because with Jack it wouldn't be baking once or twice, it'd be bombardment. It's narcy.

Was just coming here to say the same thing, setting up that kind of dynamic and hierarchy sounds very unhealthy for Jack, the rest of the group and the staff trying to support them.

Also the fact that the 'nutrition' course sells itself as a springboard to setting up your own business, instead of outlining a more formal career path, it's no bueno at all.

 

[EllaEm87]

I bet she enjoyed the big fish, small pond feeling of being the minor celeb in the group and EGO.

 

[BlendedSlop]

Just did the maths and it seems she started googling rehabs pretty much immediately after her 'fugue state' thread.

So, if there was ever any doubt, "In a fugue state" = pissed as a fart and/or high as a kite.

J. 1g makes a lot more sense now, too.

 

[L3moning]

The cancer fishing was bleeping awful, and peak Jack being a bleep, along with the ouchy mouth cookbook,.

Cancer is not a photo opportunity. bleep.

And then says that they "never breathed a word of it on social media", despite many many screenshots that show the opposite.

As I've said before, I try quite hard to not be harsh or say anything that can be spun as abuse.

But overtly lying about something that already, rightly, pissed a lot of people off? Come the duck on Jack.

 

[Rekyavikgirl]

Personally I wouldn't trust a group with Jack in. She doesn't understand confidentiality. She would make me feel unsafe.

 

[BashmentLady]

I live in germany, where you can get advent calendars for jam, pens, granola, rum and sex toys. If you need 24 of something, you can usually find it.

A dildo a day would really make my christmas mega geil.

 

[Silver Linings]

I bet she enjoyed the big fish, small pond feeling of being the minor celeb in the group and EGO.

She enjoys all and any fish.

 

[Marmalade Atkins]

It's still early, but no one has tweeted her about the pdf yet.

 

[Django]

It's still early, but no one has tweeted her about the pdf yet.

Barely a response on IG either