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He's not stupid but he is an idiot.
Absolutely - I think they're all varying degrees of toxic and dishonest.
Ali's not repped by Sixteenth, nope. He's the one whose content I'm least familiar with, but from what I've seen, he follows a very similar tactic of pushing toxic productivity, putting himself on a pedestal as being far smarter and more productive than his audience will ever be, then trying to scam people out of money for paid courses and overpriced, crappy stationery that they do not need. It's incredibly similar to the shady Sixteenth grift.
Eve's probably the least offensive of the Sixteenth studytubers, but that's not for lack of trying. The podcast they did together highlighted just how pretentious and stupid she is. It was half an hour of self-congratulatory waffle in which Eve took the lead and generally made herself look incredibly dumb while trying desperately to sound smart.
She tried to get her own Emma Chamberlain rip-off coffee business off the ground (also owned and run by Sixteenth), but it collapsed before it really started. Sixteenth sources the cheapest, shittiest manufacturers, so the only products this coffee company was able to provide was cheap hoodies, crappy drink cups and metal straws. It was a coffee company that sold no coffee. She tried to get the merch scam going but it just didn't come together like Jack and Ruby’s did, and just like them, she couldn't be bothered to put the work in to grow a genuine brand for herself or build a business.
Her content is just as lazy and creatively barren, too. She's now not only pivotting into ripping off LegalEagle's content, but she's hiring other people to write and edit that content for her because she has zero creativity to offer.
Most damningly though, like the other Sixteenth studytubers, she built her name pushing toxic productivity and then never acknowledged her part in it, even while making videos claiming to be a victim of the "toxic productivity echochamber".
10 minutes of pretentious, meandering waffle again, in which she proports to pull the veil from everyone's eyes to expose the culture of toxic productivity they're all a part of, without once mentioning that she built her career on pushing that mentality onto her audience. She never mentions her part in that, or her association with an influencer circle of other, equally toxic people who lie about what they read and how much they accomplish to make their audience feel inferior as they strive to achieve that unattainable goal. People don't get to smugly take credit for pointing out a problem they themselves helped create. It's like expecting a reward for calling to report a fire you started.
(And in true Sixteent studytuber tradition, she tried her best to make the ad declaration in the thumbnail as small and well-hidden as possible.)
They're all varying degrees of awful and they should be ejected from the internet.
at the very least I learned abt money and productivity from ali abdaal
learned nothing from the others lol except how not to behave
While we're comparing Studytubers, I liked Eve Bennett more than the others. She seemed more down-to-earth and balanced. Haven't seen any of her videos for ages, though.
I have several mutual friends with Eve and tbh they all say she's very normal. I think she's focusing on her final year at Oxford atm - she was super self-involved during the height of the pandemic but she seems to have got past that now. Also she's not signed to Sixteenth because she didn't make her name as a Studytuber - she's just a YouTuber that happens to be at uni (which is better imo, she has a way more balanced lifestyle and seems way smarter than Jade, Jack or Ruby). Sixteenth just gives me bad vibes, especially as they seem to be trying to decide what counts as 'good influence' and what doesn't, which is completely subjective and more caters to their desperation to push out stationery products
I was looking at jobs in marketing and social media so I took a look at Sixteenth's hiring page because I'd heard of them and I do believe the field of YouTuber management is a big one and its interesting to me - but their entire company ethos just icks me.
https://www.notion.so/sixteenth/Careers-d8f629d15e484910993828eedeede8f7 - for those of you who are interested. Yes, their careers page is hosted on Notion. That was the first red flag.
Ali is full of tit, middle class man who’s skimmed money out of everything, hired people in other countries so he could paid less. These aren’t people to aspire too, Ali’s productivity is balls! He doesn’t properly read anything, he reads the highlights on sponsored apps.
he did reach the top of Cambridge medicine and got a first overall
not many middle class people do that
not many middle class people do that
Oh no, that site's also full of irritating corporate-speak.
''We are adaptable and non-resistance to change?'' Huh?
But hey, perks of the job...
Sixteenth is 100% just a cattle farm for wannabe influencers, emphasising fast cash sponsor opportunities and shady merch setups over brand growth and relevant sponsor pairings.
All their new signings seem to be aspiring content creators with followers in the low thousands. They clearly struggle to attract bigger talent after the studytube bubble burst. Most creators hopefully now better, but Sixteenth targetting small creators more likely to jump to sign and less likely to say no to all the exploitative grifting sounds very on-brand.
They've done essentially nothing for their biggest "talent", and almost all the sponsor partnerships are the same ones every influencer gets, including the ones without manager representation. I'm positive that if Jack & pals had no managers, they would've gotten at least 90% of the same brand deal opportunities, and wouldn't have had to give Sixteenth a huge cut for nothing, either. All they've really done for any of them is encourage their signees to accept every ad deal they can, even if that will hurt their brand, and bilk them for all the money they can before the bottom drops out.
Their career page definitely screams "bull"; claiming to be a haven for "egolessness", "good influence", "self-improvement" and "hard work" when most of their biggest talents are narcissistic, corner-cutting toxic liars with no creative talent is hilarious.
Imagine signing up to work there, then finding out that your job description included encouraging privileged, spoilt narcissists to take money from charities. Imagine your boss asking you to get the talent you represent to lie through their teeth when advertising products from other talent on the books. Imagine part of your job was posing as a fan and posting plant comments full of praise and adoration when one of your influencers had found themselves in their 14th controversy of the year and they need help drowning out the negative comments.
If I was a recruiter and got a CV with Sixteenth's name on it, I'd have a lot of questions.
doesn't make him a good person
also Cambridge is full of upper to middle-class people, do you even know what you're on about?
I'm so tempted to apply just to see what the interview process is like. I don't have the relevant experience though, unfortunately (OT: when you've got all the necessary skills and qualifications, but need 3 years experience. like witch we're in a pandemic, who do you think needs jobs? yeah, graduates. don't ask for 3 years experience for everything i beg)
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The "we need 65 years of experience for this entry-level job, please provide references or certified proof from a reincarnation specialist that you did this job in a former life or byeeee" thing is a recruitment trend that's needed to be scrapped for a long time. I don't know how strict Sixteenth are about that though, looking at some of their "content executive/assistant" people, they had no real experience beyond maybe an internship here and there.
I imagine the interview process is: They leave you alone in a waiting room. A wallet has been left on a couch nearby containing £500 cash. Five minutes later, a manager will enter. If you mention to them that you found a wallet and return it with all the money inside, you have a sense of morality that isn't compatible with the Sixteenth ethos, and you'll be asked to leave immediately.
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Ali has his own thread (as do all the others) where he is discussed in more detail: https://tattle.life/threads/ali-abdaal.10556/
Ali has his own thread (as do all the others) where he is discussed in more detail: https://tattle.life/threads/ali-abdaal.10556/
Social class has nothing to do with intelligence.
I was watching Jack's video on Cain's Jawbone and at first I was impressed with the solving he had done on the mystery, but after that I watched kinderegard's video on it and I realised that Jack only scratched the tiniest bit of the surface 
the 'clues' he spent so long working on were the most obvious ones there and it made me realise he kind of does this with everything he does (including 'reading' 1000 books a year haha)
the 'clues' he spent so long working on were the most obvious ones there and it made me realise he kind of does this with everything he does (including 'reading' 1000 books a year haha)So...this is something that I've kept quiet, but I actually applied and was a top candidate for a position at Sixteenth. It was to work with a specific content creator (I won't say who for my own privacy) but it was the most casual interview process I've been through. The application was a standard submit your information and CV, but then you had to submit a short video about why you wanted to work with influencers. There were a few rounds of interviewing, and every time it was 5-10 minutes and nothing longer, and the questions were incredibly surface level with nothing about my experience or degree or anything like that. I didn't get the job, and as time has gone on I'm glad I didn't because I don't think I would have enjoyed working there.
i was responding to a previous poster who called ali middle class
Cambridge is full of middle class people bc not there not many rich people to begin with and not all rich people are academically inclined
Cambridge is full of middle class people bc not there not many rich people to begin with and not all rich people are academically inclined
i was just responding to a previous poster who claimed that ali was middle class
It was so lax. They required three or four references too from what I remember, when everywhere else I applied typically needed two. I remember being super nervous for my first interview and she asked me three questions (which were something like 'Whose videos do you like watching on Youtube?' 'what do you think makes a good Youtube video?' type questions) and being like ...that was it? I thought I'd be asked about my social media experience and things like that but nope.
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