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I think transphobic is too strong a word for how a lot of women are feeling. I’m happy to be polite and use female pronouns for someone who feels they are a woman despite biologically not being one. I’m happy to pretend I can’t see the stubble or the wig or the ill fitting clothes on the people who do not pass well. Why would I want to hurt someone who is clearly mentally unwell?

But there’s a line to be drawn when women are losing their rights. When women can’t compete in sports without biologically male people being allowed to join in. When women can’t use a changing room knowing there are no penises present. When women can’t access a grape support group because visibly biological males are allowed to attend. When lesbians are called TERFs for not wanting to have sex with a pen.

JK might be a tit stirrer but at least there’s someone publicly saying the things a lot of women are thinking.
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And I can’t believe there aren’t more people realising that it’s not only incredibly misogynistic but homophobic too. Children that deviate slightly from things that are typically “girl and boy” toys aren’t being told that’s ok, they’re questioned if they’ve thought if they be in “the wrong body”. It’s creepy and sets back what the last 20 years has achieved in this country for equal rights, not putting one group much higher than the rest.

Can’t remember who it was that made the quote but a prominent person in this debate said something along the lines of his gay men are jealous of trans women because TW are who gay men want to be but have to settle for being second class citizens which is pure WTF
 
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tbf theres no point arguing with transphobic people as same as racists its unlikely they'll change their view.
Instead of having a go at us Pixxy - why dont you tell us why you think female people DONT deserve single-sex spaces? and single-sex sports teams? and any other single sex exemptions (like scholarships etc). Maybe then we will understand your perspective.
 
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in my local women's clinic i dunno if I could call them a trans woman or not but they wear a dress lipstick clip on earrings builders boots and short back and sides, they are there every clinic to make an appointment for the gynae clinic. they hold up the secretaries for hrs demanding an appointment
 
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Gonna paste this from a post I saw on Reddit that sums things up nicely:
  1. JK is NOT conflating gender and sex, as she is clearly talking about sex;
  2. Gender is not a special feeling or an identity, gender is social stereotypes men and women are expected to perform and TIED TO THEIR SEX
  3. It is impossible to define what ‘gender’ is without either linking it to one’s sex or to reductive stereotypes that generalise women’s / men’s appearances, behaviour and experiences.
 
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Instead of having a go at us Pixxy - why dont you tell us why you think female people DONT deserve single-sex spaces? and single-sex sports teams? and any other single sex exemptions (like scholarships etc). Maybe then we will understand your perspective.
I think you need to reread my posts to let me know where I said that. As I actually agree that there are situations like that which need sorting out.
Toilets for example I see are a worry for some maybe making the handwashing area more public? so its not a hidden away area?

The post you quoted was aimed at a post about 'violent men dressing up as women' whichever way you look at it thats a transphobic comment.
I wasn't aiming that at everyone here as I've read plenty of posts with valid points
 
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Biological sex isn't binary either. It's not xy or xx, there can be all sorts of combinations, xxy, xyy, x etc alll of which can result in a variety of sex characteristics,. So saying all those that menstruate are women is very ignorant

And reading back through the comments can people please stop saying gender dysphoria is a mental illness. It makes it sound as though a few pills and some counselling is all that is needed. It can be the cause of mental health issues
Just so you know, a lot of intersex people are horrified at being used as pawns to prop up transgenderist arguments.

Also, the vast, vast majority of people with “intersex” conditions are actually male or female, they just have genital or genetic abnormalities.

If you have a Y chromosome, you’re biologically male. End of story.
 
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I think you need to reread my posts to let me know where I said that. As I actually agree that there are situations like that which need sorting out.
Toilets for example I see are a worry for some maybe making the handwashing area more public? so its not a hidden away area?

The post you quoted was aimed at a post about 'violent men dressing up as women' whichever way you look at it thats a transphobic comment.
I wasn't aiming that at everyone here as I've read plenty of posts with valid points
I remember the confusion I felt in the showers at our local gym, hearing a male voice just outside the door ….
Only to find it was a woman transforming from being a man. She was friendly, a nice person, but.....
It put a lot of members in a tricky place, particularly in a gym without individual changing rooms!
What do you say? How do you say this makes me feel uncomfortable, without sounding......unkind.
 
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Quite the massive leap there to eating disorders which are classified as a mental illness which have nothing to do with my post.

Many trans people have mental illnesses as a result of their gender dysphoria and feeling unable to get access to a body they feel happy with.

Read about turner's syndrome, triple x, kilnefelter etc. Rare doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And these have nothing to do with gender dysphoria. I was simply showing that biological sex isn't binary.
Wow. That is so unbelievably ignorant.

Girls with Turner’s Syndrome and triple X syndrome are categorically female, and men with Klinefelter syndrome are categorically male. No one says otherwise, except genderist extremists like yourself using them as pawns.
 
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I remember the confusion I felt in the showers at our local gym, hearing a male voice just outside the door ….
Only to find it was a woman transforming from being a man. She was friendly, a nice person, but.....
It put a lot of members in a tricky place, particularly in a gym without individual changing rooms!
What do you say? How do you say this makes me feel uncomfortable, without sounding......unkind.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be mean to an individual. But it can make it awkward.
 
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I remember the confusion I felt in the showers at our local gym, hearing a male voice just outside the door ….
Only to find it was a woman transforming from being a man. She was friendly, a nice person, but.....
It put a lot of members in a tricky place, particularly in a gym without individual changing rooms!
What do you say? How do you say this makes me feel uncomfortable, without sounding......unkind.
I agree that's a situation that needs to have a solution found, that makes it a safe enviroment for all in the changing room.
 
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after some reading today around the issues trans women face, specifically written by trans women, it became clear to me that the things they are calling transphobic aren't to do with being trans, they are to do with being a woman.

being cat-called, used for sex, threatened and abused by men, being looked as an object of lust, being called derogatory names.

stop further marginalising yourselves and join us as women and fight the problems we are all subjected to.
 
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A healthy body is not one that drives a person to suicide. Yes, mental health is a struggle when you are a trans person suffering with gender dysphoria, but that is exactly why this kind of language is harmful. It doesn't help anyone. Have your opinions about "healthy bodies" being "disfigured" but remember all of the especially young trans people who put themselves through hell just to feel safe and happy in their own mind and body. What a person does with their body to make themselves feel like "them" is really none of your concern, nor mine.

Trans people need acceptance, love and a little bit of empathy. Goes a long way. Much further than the kind of comments I've read on this thread. I hope to god no trans person ends up on this thread, given the cruel nature of most of the comments.
Language is not harmful. What a deranged fascist thing to say.

If they’ve “put themselves through hell just to feel safe in their own mind and body” is mentally ill in the extreme, as is demanding to be hug-boxed by the whole world, under the threat of suicide. Thinking you have been born in the wrong body is an obsession and a delusion, and no one else should be forced to partake in other people’s mental problems.

On that note, autogynephilia is a narcissistic paraphilia where they get aroused by other people treating them as female. No one should be forced to participate in other people’s sex life.

I have no extra empathy for trans beyond what I feel for any other human being. They’re not special, and there are people with far worse problems in the world.

No one gave a sh1t what they did with their own lives, until they started dismantling women’s rights and mutilating gay children.

after some reading today around the issues trans women face, specifically written by trans women, it became clear to me that the things they are calling transphobic aren't to do with being trans, they are to do with being a woman.

being cat-called, used for sex, threatened and abused by men, being looked as an object of lust, being called derogatory names.

stop further marginalising yourselves and join us as women and fight the problems we are all subjected to.
That pisses me off too. You wanted to be a woman? Well you got it. We can never escape it like they can.
 
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It’s interesting how one side of the debate fails to provide much of a solid argument, and just shouts “I won’t argue with you because you’re transphobic” to anyone with a differing view.

Exhausting.
 
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I remember the confusion I felt in the showers at our local gym, hearing a male voice just outside the door ….
Only to find it was a woman transforming from being a man. She was friendly, a nice person, but.....
It put a lot of members in a tricky place, particularly in a gym without individual changing rooms!
What do you say? How do you say this makes me feel uncomfortable, without sounding......unkind.
I wonder if there’s a parallel thread out there with men wondering how not to sound...unkind

Female conditioning sucks 😫
 
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I remember the confusion I felt in the showers at our local gym, hearing a male voice just outside the door ….
Only to find it was a woman transforming from being a man. She was friendly, a nice person, but.....
It put a lot of members in a tricky place, particularly in a gym without individual changing rooms!
What do you say? How do you say this makes me feel uncomfortable, without sounding......unkind.
We aren’t allowed to. Simple as that. Our feelings aren’t allowed to matter. Only the comfort of the biological male is important according to the trans agenda and cultural brainwashing currently in process. Their right to wave their pen around a female changing room comes before the rights of women to feel safe when they are changing.
 
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duck you Daniel Radcliffe. How dare you speak over and speak for a woman like that, especially the woman who made you everything you are.
Notice how he said 'trans women are women' but not 'trans men are men.' It's always, always about men.
Men's "needs" and feelings will always come before women's.
 
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duck you Daniel Radcliffe. How dare you speak over and speak for a woman like that, especially the woman who made you everything you are.
Notice how he said 'trans women are women' but not 'trans men are men.' It's always, always about men.
Men's "needs" and feelings will always come before women's.
He makes me sick with his patronising mansplaining, women know thy place shtick
 
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