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blondelolita

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Tbh JK Rowling was my childhood hero, I loved the Harry Potter series and it definitely shaped my love of literature to this day.

However, she is a money making, attention seeking fool and honestly I feel like the latest tweet displays that as she definitely knew the reaction it was going to get, regardless of her opinions... I’ll be honest, I’m staying neutral on my own opinion, but frankly, her opinion means nothing to me because really and truly, she has no real importance over my own opinion and I don’t want to give her the attention she clearly craves.

She uses twitter to stay in the limelight, sell more stuff to HP fans and basically piss people off.
 
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Platypusfattypus

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Biological sex isn't binary either. It's not xy or xx, there can be all sorts of combinations, xxy, xyy, x etc alll of which can result in a variety of sex characteristics,. So saying all those that menstruate are women is very ignorant

And reading back through the comments can people please stop saying gender dysphoria is a mental illness. It makes it sound as though a few pills and some counselling is all that is needed. It can be the cause of mental health issues
 
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kat.becs

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If someone with gender dysphoria cannot transition they are highly likely to take their own life.

Stop perpetuating the damaging myth that trans people not able to transition kill themselves.

IT’S NOT TRUE.

Transitioning makes no difference to rates of suicide in the trans community, and while we’re at it, the suicide stats peddled by Mermaids et al are entirely falsified.
I'm not arguing, or saying it has any impact on statistics or rates, or that cases don't differ from person to person, but if I had shot down my son last year and told him he couldn't live as he felt, I'm almost certain I wouldn't have my son today, even as a daughter. He's told me himself in so many words. I didn't realise just how depressed he was.

So while I can't comment on the legitimacy of any stats, I can completely understand where the assumption originates from.
 
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Scotch Mist

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Great article from the Spectator
 
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Scotch Mist

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Whatever happened to the simple times of ‘your fave is problematic’?

Regardless of what anyone thinks of her opinions, I don’t see the value in claiming she isn’t the author whether stated jokingly or not. Of course it’s upsetting when someone whose art you enjoy and who you consequently look up to has a wildly different opinion to your own. Even more so when you perceive that opinion as an attack on yourself or those you care about. But at the end of the day, she wrote the books, you enjoyed them, people are multifaceted and you can separate liking art from liking/agreeing with a person

Personally, I like mostly 20th century literature. When I learned of certain writers being overtly sexist and/or racist, I did find it off putting as a woman of colour. But I learned to accept that liking their work didn’t mean I had to like their opinions. If these writers were modern and alive like JK Rowling, I might decide not to fund them which would be fair enough. There’s nothing wrong with voting with your wallet. However, declaring them no longer the author because you don’t agree with them is petty and pointless

I know ‘your fave is problematic’ became a meme but there’s value in the concept. Someone can produce amazing work yet be flawed. They (or their work) can still be your fave, but it’s healthy to acknowledge their perceived downfalls. Categorising people as good/bad with no grey area is dangerous and upholds them to a superhuman standard as no one is fully good or bad (and that’s subjective anyway)
Yes you make a very good point. There are many artists whose work I admire but their private lives may have been rather questionable (certainly by today's stringent toxic morality code). We must always separate art from the artist and acknowledge that we cannot apply todays attitudes to Regency times, Victorian times, 1940s, 1980s, etc etc

How many more celebs can jump on this bandwagon before it breaks? I'm beginning to hope and that they will all turn on each other like a pack of rabid dogs.
 
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Bette21

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I also don't see how it came out of nowhere. A few months ago she spoke up for Maya Forstater, who got fired from her job for saying biological sex is real. JK used her powerful voice to stand up for this woman, and that is when the torrent of abuse started from trans activists. According to her essay, she said she went off Twitter for a while as it was affecting her mental health. She only came back on because she was doing something with kids submitting drawings, which I've been seeing come up on my feed for a while now. Then she saw the article about "people who menstruate" and she felt she had to speak out against it.
That’s a bit misleading.. Maya didn’t have her contract renewed because she refused to call people by their chosen gender. Supposedly JK has no problem with trans people, she said she would march with them. she just also believes in biological sex. Which is why I think the Maya thing upset a lot of people because deliberately misgendering people doesn’t really equate to being ok with trans people at all.

They’re also calling for Emma Watson to be the “author” so it’s not all about man taking from women. Not that I agree with this whole “re authoring” nonsense. It’s just like cancel culture.

I used to love the HP series until it became a merch monster. I lost a lot of respect when the play came out. It was like it was written by a completely different person and I couldn’t help but think that that’s what the series had come to- spin offs to make the money tick over.
I think it was written by a different person and JK was just part of the story idea. I don’t like all the stuff she added afterwards like Dumbledore being gay. If you want a gay character, write a gay character. Don’t just add it as an afterthought later, it felt very disingenuous.
 
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bubbletea123

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Fair enough, that's your choice, can't say I would want to either - but I'm not saying there should ONLY be a unisex bathroom. But an additional bathroom. My son uses the disabled bathroom often to overcome the bathroom debate but then he gets dirty looks when he comes out, because he's clearly not disabled. But then he can get the same looks when he uses the female bathroom and the mens bathroom. A seperate bathroom would solve the issue.

It's not the most ideal situation as I'm sure many trans people who have no bad intentions would rather use the bathroom of the gender they identify as, but a unisex bathroom isn't oppressive either.
Here one of our malls has a choice of female, male, and unisex bathrooms so it can work.
 
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Youtubegossip

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Yes I think it bares repeating the fact that she fell down the rich list because of how much money she gave away. We all know billionaires give money to charity but I’ve never heard of anyone else having their earnings impacted by it.
I’m sure she’s still living comfortable. No human being needs a billion pounds

I’m like everyone else, love Harry Potter, hate her twitter and think she’s now milking it. Didn’t she say after Harry Potter that was it and there wouldn’t be anything else in the franchise or did I make that up? Then she got bored and the play and Fantastic Beasts came along
 
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CynicalV

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Thankfully Rupert Grint has a statement against Rowling's comments in The Times today so I bet you'll all stop licking his arse now.
 
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Oohthedrama

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What has she said exactly that is hurtful?
Now, I didn’t say I disagreed with her.
i have an issue with WHY she’s does what she does, and the type of person she seems to be, the type of “role model“ she’s trying to be.

Doesn’t mean I don’t agree with her argument, or that I agree with it.

I havent given my opinion on that, it’s not an argument I’m entering into,
my opinion here is just on her.
And what she’s doing online.

Personally I think JK knew what she was doing with Harry Potter- she franchised the shit out of it and a bi-product of that was the huge communities of HP fans that created loads of inclusive safe spaces. Jk capitalised from these people by throwing out tidbits to fit the narrative of the fans. Dumbledore was gay etc. If JK fully intended on a fully inclusive and representative book she would have included this in the book she wrote- not the twitter side show. The facts remain that in her books there are no openly gay characters, there are few characters who aren’t white and the ones that are from other countries or cultures are heavily stereotyped, no characters with disabilities, no one who is gender fluid- the list goes on. Jk isn’t the hero - she just fed fans what they wanted.
I really feel for her fans who are struggling with their gender identity right now- having someone they look up to invalidate them must be awful 😞
This 👍
 
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pixxyy

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I remember the confusion I felt in the showers at our local gym, hearing a male voice just outside the door ….
Only to find it was a woman transforming from being a man. She was friendly, a nice person, but.....
It put a lot of members in a tricky place, particularly in a gym without individual changing rooms!
What do you say? How do you say this makes me feel uncomfortable, without sounding......unkind.
I agree that's a situation that needs to have a solution found, that makes it a safe enviroment for all in the changing room.
 
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pixxyy

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Personally I think JK knew what she was doing with Harry Potter- she franchised the shit out of it and a bi-product of that was the huge communities of HP fans that created loads of inclusive safe spaces. Jk capitalised from these people by throwing out tidbits to fit the narrative of the fans. Dumbledore was gay etc. If JK fully intended on a fully inclusive and representative book she would have included this in the book she wrote- not the twitter side show. The facts remain that in her books there are no openly gay characters, there are few characters who aren’t white and the ones that are from other countries or cultures are heavily stereotyped, no characters with disabilities, no one who is gender fluid- the list goes on. Jk isn’t the hero - she just fed fans what they wanted.
I really feel for her fans who are struggling with their gender identity right now- having someone they look up to invalidate them must be awful 😞
The lack of diversity in the Books I dont include in my reasons against her.
I hate the excuse 'it was a different time' but back then the majority of books had no diversity especially ones aimed at Children.
Thats why it's so good to see the World progressing in such a open and inclusive way.
 
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HockyRorror

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Not that I needed proof for you Tattlers but I found the tweet in question 😂😂

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If you do want a laugh at grown adults having tantrums and meltdowns read the replies on this link: 😂😂
 
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Vanillaco

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2+2=5

JK Rowling had some nasty pre-social media backlash back in the nineties. Ironically for pushing Satanism and witchcraft onto children, so book burnings and revisionism is not new. Twitter, as unpleasant as it is, is so full of bots, sock puppets and algorithms designed to limit the content people view, cannot be taken as reflective of the real world.

Anecdata warning: The real life contempt I find people, even youngsters who haven’t migrated to a cooler platform elsewhere already, hold it in reminds me of similar feelings towards the 4chan and infowars sites back in the day.

I noticed that Jacqueline Wilson was trending for a bit by the Twitter woke crowd as an alternative to JK Rowling, and then that had a backlash when it was pointed out that she too, but had less than 100% unquestioning support for the transgender movement.

Hamilton is on the block too, so quickly after being held up as woke icons.

The travails of student politics. So easily manipulated and hijacked by cynical professional agitators.

At least Mme Guillotine was retired centuries ago.
If they get Hamilton taken down before Friday, I'll have them! I only paid for Disney + for that and I've had to sit through Frozen 2 because of it😀
 
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