I admit I’ve looked at his fb since people have mentioned it on here. The pictures he’s put up of her… she looks unkempt bless her and there’s not even a carpet down in a lot of them. If you saw that surely you would want someone checking up. But, and I do feel awful saying this, his posts, spelling, general vibe give the impression of someone who might not have found it unusual to see those conditions, and who would rather post about being the victim than actually doing something productive for her while she was alive. Again I don’t want to kick a man when he’s down but we’ve all come across people like that on SM and it adds to the list of people (professionals included) who stood by and did nothing in the face of countless red flags. He shouldn’t be in this position of being scrutinised because his daughter was murdered, she should still be alive and like any other man in that situation he should have had the chance to try and do right by Isabelle though I just don’t feel like he would have. Spoiler for another merail. I am probably biased against him because I have never forgiven my sons’ “dad” for walking away on the day when he had physically seen that I was a complete state of an alcoholic and didn’t ring the social or police or anyone at all. He just left his kids there because it was too much effort to get involved and was more interested in feeling sorry for himself.
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I love your posts. They are always so calm and insightful.
I agree with what you've said.
It isn't his fault that Isabelle is dead and he is allowed to grieve in a way that suits him.
But I know that if Isabelle was still alive he wouldn't have done anything for her.
No sorry that's not good enough.
Thats where a court order comes in to play and if thats broken then it can lead to imprisonment
I agree, she looks scruffy and unclean in all pics. Somewhere it said in an article she always looked immaculate, well i dont know where they were looking
So far it doesn’t seem like she had any CSC involvement, so wasn’t known to them. The HV didn’t even bother visiting after hearing about the broken leg & the hospital knew she had had the injury 2 weeks before being seen by them but doesn’t seem like any of this resulted in contacting CSC with any concerns, even tho AW and the grandmother were aggressive at the hospital
AW mother said that. She gave evidence that Isabelle always looks immaculate. To be fair, her clothes do look clean? Her hair is messy but from someone who always makes sure my daughter is clean, her hair always looks a mess as it’s naturally wavy and frizzy. So my pictures of my child don’t come out like I want to as her hair is too short to do something about it so she looks unkempt just based on my daughters hair but who knows.
AW mother also the one who mentioned that her daughter got abused by Isabelle’s father…. which is ironic considering how violent her own daughter is and whose own daughter let a strange man in the house who did despicable things to her grandchild.
Wasn't there evidence that AW was off her bits one evening and stabbed herself with a knife then claimed it was someone else?
Where does that fit in the timeline?
Where does that fit in the timeline?
So AW only had a phone call from the health visitor following Isabelle’s broken leg? No house call to check on her welfare? This was a young child with a fracture that was two weeks old, and a mother who was aggressive to hospital staff. Yet the HV just accepted from AW that Isabelle was doing well and going back to nursery. Now it turns out that Isabelle wasn’t even registered with a nursery, so the HV clearly took no details and made no follow ups 
This poor child was let down by everyone
This poor child was let down by everyone
I have seen a few posts saying that AW is/was an alcoholic - has that been reported somewhere or is it based on the 10 cans of Stella ?
Well nobody who aint got an alcohol problem would drink ten stellas throughout the day
The 10 cans is difficult to get my head round. We've definitely bought a box of beer of 10 or 12 cans but obviously not drinking them in one night. Her mum may have bought them thinking AW was only gonna have 1 or 2 that night.
That is what I have been thinking. If you go to a supermarket most of the beers are in multipacks (and much cheaper) so buying a 10 pack is probably the norm. If she did drink them all in one night ( I haven't seen it reported if she did or didn't) then how did she not pass out.
Don’t she say she needed the Stella’s because she was stressed out with Isabelle or something along those lines?
She was asleep till the afternoon, sleeping it off I suspect ?
Yep. 10 to cope with the stress
From what I've read she didn't say "I need 10 Stella's" it was "get me some Stellas".
Just thinking out loud but if my husband says get beers with the shopping I'll often get a box, rather than 4 or 2 or whatever. Therefore I can see why mum got her a crate thinking it would last a couple of weeks or something.
Dunno, maybe I'm being too reasonable
Just thinking out loud but if my husband says get beers with the shopping I'll often get a box, rather than 4 or 2 or whatever. Therefore I can see why mum got her a crate thinking it would last a couple of weeks or something.
Dunno, maybe I'm being too reasonable
As I said if she slept in till the afternoon and I think I read she had been sick , That's not a result of a couple of tinnies .
Yes I know she drank them all. What I'm saying is when her mum bought them did she realise that she was gonna drink them all.
She probably guessed she may neck the lot , that stuff sends people crazy!