Ioan Gruffudd and Alice Evans #4 He’s just not that into you

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S_Chynoweth

Didn't say he was a narcissist! It just shows he cares veeeerrrrrrrry much about his image and illuminates part of the dynamic of their marriage.
 
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EssieMay

I just can't think of anything he could say in a statement that wouldn't make it worse. Anything he says will make it worse. I'm surprised he even released the photo with the comment, I guess his lawyers wouldn't be happy with it, but if the 6 months is up maybe he is just so relieved he let his guard down. (He just said he was smiling again, it wasn't a wedding announcement).
 
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S_Chynoweth

Bridgeofsighs said:
AE: A lot of people definitely knew something - for quite a time. That's what makes me feel so humiliated!

What difference does it make? Him getting a gf was always going to cause a meltdown even if they kept it secret before.
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It's hard though. Really hard to find out you've been lied to on that level. It makes you feel small and alone and as if everyone is laughing at you. The worst feeling is thinking you weren't good enough for someone and all their friends and family agreed.
 
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Ena Sharples

Bridgeofsighs said:
AE: Why should we keep it all "inside" or "to our friends" (my friends have had enough) or not wash our dirty linen? I've been TOTALLY fucked over to this man and people should know it
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Unfortunately this is how she will always be remembered now. It has gone beyond any damage limitation now , this will be her legacy.
 
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S_Chynoweth


Even a brief statement along the lines of: 'I am sorry that our separation and divorce has caused this much pain. Our two daughters are very much the priority and I hope, with time, we can all heal and move on.'

It might be clichéd but it at least shows that he has a heart. The silence is just allowing Alice to yell into the void.
 
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EssieMay

S_Chynoweth said:
feel ... as if everyone is laughing at you.
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Well how does she think he felt when she was sharing vids of him snoring without his permission? Yes no doubt she does feel that way now but he probably felt that way heaps of times before. Anyway she needs to find healthy ways to cope and her current method is damaging to everyone within firing range.
 
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House of Tea

I think IG has moved on from AE being the woman he was in a relationship with for so long, his wife, the mother of their children. He now thinks of her as That Bloody Woman. The photo of him and Bianca was very much an Up Yours - get a move on with the divorce. It’s over.
 
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S_Chynoweth

I'm sorry Essie May but that's so different. An insta video isn't remotely similar to your world cracking apart when you find out about lies. I've been through this seismic level of humiliation and trust me when I say that it makes you feel absolutely sub human to know that people you thought liked and loved you didn't like you enough to tell you you were being betrayed. It's a dagger to the soul when a simple break up is a dagger to the heart. You can on one level accept the betrayal from the ex but the rest of the people? It's hell.
 
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Bridgeofsighs

Yes I agree that that is hard. But it depends if you take AE's word for it that everyone knew except her and that the romance started in 2020 when they were still together albeit in a rocky marriage. I don't take her word on anything. She is also the world's worst detective and so are her FMs.

I don't doubt that he told his family and maybe close friends this year about it. So what? He was separated then. Also I don't think you make the big announcement until you are sure the relationship has legs. Otherwise could be a bit embarrassing if it quickly dissolves.

I am glad BW is reading up on Narcs etc. She will need it. I imagine she is helping IG to deal with AE's public shit flinging. I know he kind of asked for it by marrying a bunny boiler (and the signs were there) but I still have some sympathy for him. And the kids of course.
 
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Reverend

I was dumped by someone who went off with someone else, and it burned. She kept turning up at things with her new guy, and I'm so glad I didn't have social media at the time, because although I don't think I would have done what Alice has done, I'm sure i might have put up something I later regretted.

The woman who left me later started getting dumped by the men in her life (one ghosted her after she became pregnant with his child), and she went full Alice with tweets, threatening letters, dumping all the stuff the parents of the guy had bought her on their drive, etc.

Perhaps I'm the Olivier Picasso to her Alice.....hmmm......
 
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House of Tea

Just looked at IG Twitter. Apart from the recent photo with his new squeeze, he had not used that account since May 20. To go from low profile to here’s me new bird is a very big statement indeed. I think he will be more active on social media now.
 
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Sooz

In fairness, BW doesn't have much in the way of context.

Seems there are 2 of them throwing around the narc term. I think it's probably thrown around a bit too much. Sometimes you're not a narc, you're just a selfish asshole.

Probably the truth is a bit more complex for AE, given this is fairly well known behaviour for a middle aged wife who's been thrown over and replaced with someone young enough to be her daughter. I've read a lot of similar behaviour on Mumsnet, (with lots of encouragement from the braying huns), they just didn't have a huge following on Twitter. Unknown people just post embarrassing statuses on Facebook slagging him off.

But I think it's quite possible that neither are narcs, but they are very happy to label each other that. Her in public, him in private to BW.
 
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IHateHadargoyle

I’m not defending IG but getting away from AE and her lot is probably far more difficult than you can imagine. I agree about his judgement however.
 
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welp

Well, if it had only started now I would agree and Alice's behavior atm wouldnt be that unusual if she wasnt in the public eye. But Alice is spiralling badly since he broke up, long before she knew that she was "replaced" (she had admitted the past months that she didnt think that he had an affair, after she initially thought it). And in fact that behavior was already apparent long long before they broke up too. Ioan until this thing came across to me as vain, I know many people who confuse this with narcissism, but it's hard to get a read on him in general because he isnt saying and doing much.

Let's put it this way: It's far more likely that both are narcissists than that neither are. I agree though that this term is thrown around way too easily these days.
 
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IHateHadargoyle

I’ve been thinking the same as you re MM. The way she talks over him, clings to him like a leech, and walks ahead of him just for a start. So cringe!
 
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welp

lol, we've compared Alice to the two people she likes the most (Markle, Trump) in this thread. Have some mercy!
 
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iamthecat

AE was with OP. He was pretty shiny. He reflected his shine upon her throughout the Paris “scene”. She probably get all shiny and special as well - an English girl, upcoming actress, trilingual, it was probably a great time for her.
Then she makes a movie, 102 Dalmations with IG. This movie has the potential to push her star a bit higher. And a romance with a costar? Well the sky’s the limit there! Potential to become Hollywood’s up and coming “Cool Britannia” couple. Dump OP, get with IG, AE begins to shine even brighter now. The Hollywood stage has far more potential than the Paris scene.
But then IG made the fatal mistake of shining a bit too brightly. His star continued to rise and hers kind of spluttered and faltered. How dare he! And so she starts to pull him back down again. And continues to pull him down, whilst still maintaining enough of his shininess to keep her shiny, until he finally after 18 years has enough and breaks it off.

Classic narc 101. If he was the narc, he’d have broken it off with her years ago and gotten with a younger Hollywood actress.
 
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