Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #61 I reddit on the grapevine

[Howdy]

Best thread title ever lol .

Now waiting to hear everyone's thoughts on BW's latest Insta story.

Love the quote at the end. It isn't BW in the story (for anyone not on Insta) but "you never know when your detour will lead you to your destiny." Nice.

 

[FunnyFuneral]

I'm a Scottish person & do find others, including my husband, be a tad iffy especially around football. Definitely not racist though, as we are all white living in the same island. Its nationality within the same country, not race as I see it

 

[CailinAlainn]

Thank you for the thread penguin
Love the title @ButterTart genius
And thanks for the recaps.

It’s not just me that thinks those reddit posts were meant to be found, right?

The one about her step sister and all those about Ioan, and her health, all the main things that have drawn her the most criticism and suspicion? Why did she post about those things.

Was the idea that that if she was ‘caught’ posting the same things anonymously then people would believe they must be true? I’m trying to understand the logic.

And are we sure she’s ‘highly intelligent’, really?

I’ve never thought she’s highly intelligent. I think she thinks she’s highly intelligent, sure. She has some facility with languages and can be articulate at times, but she has zero emotional intelligence, seemingly no common sense, and does not come across as all that bright in general most of the time. She’s not massively engaged in the world beyond knee jerk hot takes on Twitter. Many people who have degrees are not necessarily setting the world on fire IQ wise. I think Alice thinks very highly of herself in every way and is mostly objectively wrong.

 

[Lillymyheart]

Oh my god, is that now that BW has meningitis? Poor lass. Hope she pulls through ok and it doesn't do a number on her MS. She is having it so rough

Apparently she was sharing someone else's reel. Sorry!

She’s just reshared someone else’s reel, she doesn’t and hasn’t had meningitis.

Oh! Wish she had clarified that. I'm going to ask the mods to delete my comment. Sorry all!

 

[SusanC]

I’ve never thought she’s highly intelligent. I think she thinks she’s highly intelligent, sure. She has some facility with languages and can be articulate at times, but she has zero emotional intelligence, seemingly no common sense, and does not come across as all that bright in general most of the time. She’s not massively engaged in the world beyond knee jerk hot takes on Twitter. Many people who have degrees are not necessarily setting the world on fire IQ wise. I think Alice thinks very highly of herself in every way and is mostly objectively wrong.

Def this^.
Have no idea what I've missed and no time to catch up. Love y'all!
ETA: I also agree with the Munchausen's. Don't know that it would be able to get a formal diagnosis though.

 

[CailinAlainn]

Def this^.
Have no idea what I've missed and no time to catch up. Love y'all!

I also think I have gotten dumber as I’ve aged, and Alice definitely has not gotten sharper or looked after her brain health terribly well. Not firing on all cylinders at all these days.

 

[IHateHadargoyle]

AE and IG’s wedding photos were posted on the previous thread. Especially the infamous one of her storming down the aisle with Phil and “Tone.”
As I am immature and like to cut up, each and every time I see that photo I hear the “Wedding March” but with AE appropriate lyrics.
Here comes the bride,
green and yellow eyes,
see how she slithers,
from side to side.

 

[Lillymyheart]

She’s shared Upworthy’s post on her story. About someone else who had meningitis, not BW.

I asked the mods to delete it. Sorry about the confusion.

 

[raiseseyebrow]

As I am immature and like to cut up, each and every time I see that photo I hear the “Wedding March” but with AE appropriate lyrics.

It’s funny your hear the “Wedding March”, I hear the “Imperial March”

 

[welp]

you sure did, Alice

 

[LucySmith]

A few points about the differences in how men and women experience healthcare.

Women are much more likely to seek early intervention when symptoms first appear and can be mild, generalised and non specific. They usually present to GPs who are gatekeepers to specialist services. GPs, who are generalists, triage in diagnosis and treatment. Resulting in people being referred back and forth for tests with various specialists working independently. An historic lack of research and interest in ”female” issues means pathways aren’t efficient or effective.

Men are much less likely to seek early intervention. They present when symptoms are acute and specific in hospital settings. They get seen by specialists and multi disciplinary teams. They suffer from well recognised and researched conditions. Pathways are direct and effective.

Someone like Alice, middle class articulate and demanding, would get a lot referrals within a universal system like the NHS. Back in the day she would definitely be treated as a time waster and have some hilarious and cutting discharge letters. That is wrong but it comes from a place of truth that some people do waste the time of HCP. There is as much evidence that Alive has Munchausen as there is for the various conditions she claims she has. Even if she didn’t her constant lying means she will never get the right diagnosis.

The fact that she is a liar and that her health effects her at the most “convenient” times to get her way would be indicative of Munchausen.

She also said in the medical forum she had blood tests and she was negative for fibro. So the doctors told her she doesn’t have it. I’m not saying doctors are always right or she doesn’t have pain though. But blood tests are black and white.

 

[CarrierPigeon]

Best thread title ever lol .

Now waiting to hear everyone's thoughts on BW's latest Insta story.

I am a fan of BW, but her latest Insta posts are beginning to look like episodes of Casualty (I will probably go straight to hell for my comment), but I’d rather see more of Bear looking happy, wearing shoes… or something

 

[M33L4]

Who is the person in BW’s Insta story though?

A Paralympian who fought through adversity.

 

[the ships going down]

you sure did, Alice
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Whats 'Tone' alluding to in his second reply? Maybe I'm being dumb and tired - I can't see how it relates to the tweet he's replying to.

 

[Mad Betty]

She also said in the medical forum she had blood tests and she was negative for fibro. So the doctors told her she doesn’t have it. I’m not saying doctors are always right or she doesn’t have pain though. But blood tests are black and white.

I found some medical forum posts as well. She talks at length about hormone treatment (IVF and then HRT) and how it has affected her fibro and general pain. Evidently, she can't handle progesterone. I suspect the endless hormone treatments over the years have done a number on her and likely exacerbated any emotional instability.

 

[Ally Pally]

Oh my god, is that now that BW has meningitis? Poor lass. Hope she pulls through ok and it doesn't do a number on her MS. She is having it so rough

No she hasn't got meningitis the Instagram post was about a young woman who overcome meningitis and losing her lower limbs wasn't it?

 

[plinky]

A few points about the differences in how men and women experience healthcare.

Women are much more likely to seek early intervention when symptoms first appear and can be mild, generalised and non specific. They usually present to GPs who are gatekeepers to specialist services. GPs, who are generalists, triage in diagnosis and treatment. Resulting in people being referred back and forth for tests with various specialists working independently. An historic lack of research and interest in ”female” issues means pathways aren’t efficient or effective.

Men are much less likely to seek early intervention. They present when symptoms are acute and specific in hospital settings. They get seen by specialists and multi disciplinary teams. They suffer from well recognised and researched conditions. Pathways are direct and effective.

Someone like Alice, middle class articulate and demanding, would get a lot referrals within a universal system like the NHS. Back in the day she would definitely be treated as a time waster and have some hilarious and cutting discharge letters. That is wrong but it comes from a place of truth that some people do waste the time of HCP. There is as much evidence that Alive has Munchausen as there is for the various conditions she claims she has. Even if she didn’t her constant lying means she will never get the right diagnosis.

The fact that she is a liar and that her health effects her at the most “convenient” times to get her way would be indicative of Munchausen.

It isn’t just this. And I work in healthcare

Women have periods and are expected to just accept that bleeding so badly and painfully from your vagina each month is normal, or having a face full of pus acne is just ‘your hormones’ or you have to just get used to boobs so painful you can’t even bear to wear a bra, or cramps so painful you throw up, so much blood you wear tena lady, weird excess hair and weight makes you feel bad about yourself is just normal, hormone rages or severe depression and migraines you need to get fresh air and exercise, or like me, ‘too young to have any intervention’. It is bleeping awful. I once went to my doctor saying I honestly thought I was losing so much blood it was scaring me. She told me I had anxiety. A year later, I became so anaemic I had a blood transfusion after lumps of my hair fell out and I couldn’t eat as my mouth was so painful, and I was craving mint so bad (weird I know) I was eating toothpaste

 

[M33L4]

It isn’t just this. And I work in healthcare

Women have periods and are expected to just accept that bleeding so badly and painfully from your vagina each month is normal, or having a face full of pus acne is just ‘your hormones’ or you have to just get used to boobs so painful you can’t even bear to wear a bra, or cramps so painful you throw up, so much blood you wear tena lady, weird excess hair and weight makes you feel bad about yourself is just normal, hormone rages or severe depression and migraines you need to get fresh air and exercise, or like me, ‘too young to have any intervention’. It is bleeping awful. I once went to my doctor saying I honestly thought I was losing so much blood it was scaring me. She told me I had anxiety. A year later, I became so anaemic I had a blood transfusion after lumps of my hair fell out and I couldn’t eat as my mouth was so painful, and I was craving mint so bad (weird I know) I was eating toothpaste

Please don’t answer if you don’t want to. Is it endo? I have these symptoms with my endo and recently also got diagnosed with Graves’ disease. Suffered with the symptoms for 15 years.

 

[plinky]

Please don’t answer if you don’t want to. Is it endo? I have these symptoms with my endo and recently also got diagnosed with Graves’ disease. Suffered with the symptoms for 15 years.

They wouldn’t tell me but eventually removed half my insides and it’s cured 80% of the issues

I was talking to my boyfriend the other day and we were laughing about those days when I had to sleep on top of puppy pads wearing tena lady

It’s funny now I can laugh about it

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

I’ve never thought she’s highly intelligent. I think she thinks she’s highly intelligent, sure. She has some facility with languages and can be articulate at times, but she has zero emotional intelligence, seemingly no common sense, and does not come across as all that bright in general most of the time. She’s not massively engaged in the world beyond knee jerk hot takes on Twitter. Many people who have degrees are not necessarily setting the world on fire IQ wise. I think Alice thinks very highly of herself in every way and is mostly objectively wrong.

She called her dad a maths genius and then we find out her uncle was notable too. The brains seem to have skipped a generation.

Also if Tone joined twitter to show support for my Sister Alice, why is his account locked?