Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #229 The day that Ioan realised she was totally and utterly bonkers

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I know there are a lot of uncertainties regarding the kids futures but I can see Elsie stepping into her fathers footsteps and leaving Alice too at some point.
She doesn't seem to be as heavily involved as Ella does.
And yes the eldest is a victim too but especially over the last year she's also behaved exactly like Alice in a lot of ways.
Lying about being physically assaulted is a serious (criminal) offence. But here's the thing: I don't know if she even realizes the seriousness of dragging someone to court based on false accusations or if she still thinks this is some sort of game or whatever.
Understanding that your actions have consequences and dealing with them is a big part of growing up. If your parents care about you, they are there to help and guide you in these situations. As we've all seen, Alice doesn't. What I fear is that Alices complete disregard of the law will also rub off on Ella. And if she finds herself in another courtroom (-I hope that doesn't happen-) the person on the other side might not be as understanding of her situation as her father was.
 
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I think it's important to really read that first sentence and think about how Alice has not protected her oldest daughter in any meaningful way. It was two years ago that there was all the craziness of the hacking of Ioan's instagram and it seems like there were other kids and/or adults that were commenting on it until control was regained. When the video of Ella was released of her fake RO and circulated on twitter, it's part of a discord thingy of others who may or may not be kids but it may also be adults. It had the Ella pissed herself thing on it. Now, maybe it's a joke but wtf is that?

Who are the people that the daughter is interacting with and do you really think that Alice has vetted them? Do you think they are as quality as Lupine or strange non-family people who are pretending to be grandparents? She has pubic social media profiles for reasons that make no gd sense to me, especially in a case this high profile.

Alice already has started to put chatter online about how her daughter will soon be able to drive.

Strangers know this - meaning thousands of strangers know it. Not on tattle, from Alice. My heart breaks for the kids that they are allowed to be online for anything beyond school, unsupervised, with pictures of them as children, for anyone to see.
 
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Ioan definitely is not often playing LOL

just to add on this: the "phone free zone" he had in visitations showed that this is the case
 
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BIB - the thing is, who could Ella have turned to if she didn't want to go along with the fake RO plot?

She wasn't in school at the time, thanks to Alice.

What other responsible adults in her life were there that she could have turned to for advice, or to have said "my mother wants me to do this, but I don't want to"?
 
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Such a thoughtful, educational post. Thank you Autisteuse and big hugs as you battle the Black Dog x
 
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I find it shocking that she hasnt, the way Alice treated her in court by abandoning her was utterly disgusting (and showed that since "be a mother" nothing has changed in her treatment of her kids).
Yes I think I would notice being left alone in a court with no lawyer and a made up case against my dad and his gf even at 14. It was humiliating and Ella's body language when she was papped outside the court (thanks Mommy Dearest) showed that.

Judge: I don’t think you accuse her of purposely slamming; is that right? Is that fair?”
Ella: “Yeah, I’m not saying that she did. I don’t know myself.”

The whole case fell apart in a second. Just going over the transcript, AFE and her soldier were woefully ill prepared. I think that's what the hearings will be like. AFE constantly interrupting and then running off if a hard question is asked. It will be a shit show. Good job she has such a great lawyer like Bernal to carry the can for her.
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she is a pretty awful parent, and teenagers like to take advantage out of awful parents.
Yeah but she might notice the fun stuff that's on BW's timeline. If I was 14 I would want to go to a bowling alley, Joshua Tree, maybe even meet Uncle Alun etc. I know kids are addicted to phones but staying in looking at a screen all day gets boring eventually. AFE does nothing except sock, visit the supermarket and moan about the 'bogan' and the 'dead beat dad'. That's boring.
 
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Yep, her isolation works really well, doesn't it?
That's also a reason why I question any of Alices so called "friends". What kind of a person do you have to be not only to see this behaviour and think it's totally fine but also to actively encourage it? What reasonable adult would look at this kids past actions and still believe all of those "we're so happy posts" on instagram?
I just hope that someday Ella will be able to open up to someone about this whole mess and move past it.
 
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well, that's why she uses other families to cover that (my parents did the same, except they did that because they were working every day). Elsie has done various trips within California (one time it was even prioritised over visitation with her dad) and we have seen videos of Ella bowling with other girls.


I went last week on her tiktok and noticed that the user she interacts most with is someone with a errr pretty explicit username that has called her an "annoying stupid anorexic ass" (I get sometimes it's jokes, but...) - I obviously don't know if her online friends are also her real life friends, but online friends are in those situations pretty dangerous because they tend (not all, obviously) to give "advice" that is to their entertainments benefit because they are simply too far away to be impacted by the consequences of any action they are encouraging. I can well imagine that those freaks on Ella's discord chat are exactly these kind of "friends" (and I put this in quotation marks by intention because from my experience in moderating discord servers those little friend circles are usually pretty toxic and all about being cool enough to belong there, which given the above quoted comment and the DM group name methinks is also the case here)
 
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Aw, look how lovely and relaxed I looks being filmed in a normal way by a normal fiancèe in a normal setting. How bloody beautiful and normal
 
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